Nebraska lawmaker introduces assault weapons ban

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Measure targeting assault weapons sent to the floor
BY LESLIE REED
WORLD-HERALD BUREAU

LINCOLN — A heavily rewritten gun-control bill takes aim at assault weapons and, if approved by the Legislature, could lead to the banning of certain firearms in Nebraska.

As amended by the Judiciary Committee, Legislative Bill 958 would create a seven-member law enforcement commission to develop a list of guns deemed "inherently dangerous."

The Legislature would vote on whether to ban the weapons for sale or resale in Nebraska. The commission would be required to update the list every two years.

The committee sent the amended bill to the full Legislature on a 6-0 vote Wednesday.

All of the bill's original provisions were stripped out. Those provisions required that all guns be sold with a gun lock or trigger lock, that the loss or theft of a gun be reported to authorities within 48 hours and that people convicted of gun felonies go to prison for at least five years.

State Sen. Brad Ashford, sponsor of the bill and amendment, said he decided this week that the original provisions would do little to prevent another incident like the Von Maur shootings at Omaha's Westroads Mall.

After briefly considering requiring permits to purchase any firearm, whether handgun or long gun, he decided to focus on what he called "military-style" weapons.

"The assault weapons are the problem," he said. "There are some guns that are so inherently dangerous — they have no purpose for hunting. Those are the weapons we need to consider taking off the street."

A representative of the National Rifle Association expressed concern about the amended bill.

"If they want to systematically take away guns every two years, that sounds terrible," said Jordan Austin, government liaison for the group.

Eight people were killed in December at the Von Maur department store by a disturbed 19-year-old man armed with a semiautomatic rifle. The shooter killed himself.

Ashford proposes a governor-appointed commission of representatives from the State Patrol, the City of Omaha and a city other than Omaha; the governor, the attorney general and the Judiciary Committee chairman or their designees; and a firearms retailer.

The panel would define assault weapons, using criteria specified in the bill, and identify a list of weapons that meet those characteristics to be presented to the Legislature.

Ashford said it's possible that the commission would recommend that no guns be banned, but the approach would give law enforcement and other weapons professionals an opportunity to "take a crack at the issue."

"Nebraska has many avid hunters and sportsmen," the Omaha lawmaker said. "We have the expertise and knowledge to set these kinds of standards, and we should set the standards."

The bill describes the general characteristics of an assault weapon this way:

• A semiautomatic center-fire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine, with any one of the following: a pistol grip protruding conspicuously beneath the weapon's action; a thumbhole stock; a folding or telescoping stock; a grenade launcher or flare launcher; a flash suppressor; or a forward pistol grip.

• A semiautomatic center-fire rifle with a fixed magazine with capacity for more than 10 rounds.

• A semiautomatic center-fire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

Antique or collectible weapons with their firing pins removed would not be considered assault weapons.

Austin objected to these definitions, saying "assault weapon" is a scare-tactic term that has little real meaning.

He said a semiautomatic rifle is no different from a semiautomatic handgun; both fire one bullet for each trigger pull.

The rifle, however, has cosmetic features to make it seem more dangerous, Austin said.

"If they can justify taking away the long gun, they can justify taking away the short gun," he said.

Voting with Ashford to advance the bill were Sens. DiAnna Schimek and Amanda McGill, both of Lincoln, Vickie McDonald of St. Paul, and Ernie Chambers and Steve Lathrop, both of Omaha. Sens. Dwite Pedersen and Pete Pirsch, both of Omaha, abstained.
 
The Lincoln Journal Star Version

Amended gun control bill advances to full Legislature
BY JoANNE YOUNG / Lincoln Journal Star
Wednesday, Feb 20, 2008 - 10:39:04 pm CST
Members of the Legislature’s Judiciary Committee on Wednesday advanced a much modified gun control bill (LB958) to the full Legislature.

The bill as amended would create an Assault Weapons Commission with seven members that would define and compile a list of such weapons, reporting to the Legislature whether they should be illegal.

The bill defines the general characteristics of assault weapons.
The commission would be required to deliver its report by Feb. 1, 2009. It would also provide an updated list to the Judiciary Committee every other year.

Committee Chairman Brad Ashford of Omaha said senators would evaluate the list of “inherently dangerous assault weapons” and decide whether any should be banned in the state for sale or resale.

“What the public is concerned about is military style assault weapons,” he said.

The committee advanced the bill on a 6-0 vote, with Sens. Dwite Pedersen of Elkhorn and Pete Pirsch of Omaha not voting.

In its original form, the bill required reporting of lost or stolen firearms within 48 hours, trigger locks and tracing of firearms found in possession of minors. It also established a 12-member gun violence commission.

The bill came, in part, as a result of a mass killing in December at Omaha’s Westroads Mall, in which 19-year-old Robert Hawkins opened fire inside the Von Maur department store killing eight people and himself.

The NRA opposed the bill during a hearing by the committee.

Reach JoAnne Young at 473-7228 or [email protected].
 
Mikee;

Come over to The Shack or ccwne.com and help us organize and plan the defense. (If you already are a visitor to both, thank you).
 
As amended by the Judiciary Committee, Legislative Bill 958 would create a seven-member law enforcement commission to develop a list of guns deemed "inherently dangerous."

How stupid are they??? :banghead:
 
Ashford, the bill's sponsor, is a Republican. There is a long line of pro-gun Democrats waiting to replace him. Let's boot this guy!
 
If you are a Nebraska resident, and have not written/called/e-mailed your state Senator and 2 friends on this issue, you have work to do! Get Crackin'!
 
Ashford, the bill's sponsor, is a Republican.
Technically speaking, none of Nebraska's state senators ran on a party ticket nor is there any mention of party affiliation once you are voted in.

Famous Republicans:
Carolyn McCarthy (switched to Dem)
Mike Bloomberg (Switched from Dem to Repub to Indep)
Rudy Giuliani
Mitt Romney

But yes, I agree, Ashford needs to go and a pro-gun person put in his place, regardless of party.
 
I guess getting hit by a 9mm Glock feels like a little prickle, then, since those are only 'dangerous' as opposed to inherently dangerous.

someone kill the bill with fire, please.
 
I guess getting hit by a 9mm Glock feels like a little prickle, then, since those are only 'dangerous' as opposed to inherently dangerous.
Yup, and bolt-action .308s and .338s are BB guns. And grandpa's 30-30 never put meat on the table. And cops only carried revolvers to feel tough.

I wonder: can a politician put their foot far enough in their mouth until it hits their head which seems to be firmly implanted in their backsides??
 
My senator (McGill) is one that voted for advancement. Just emailed her:

Senator McGill,

I am writing to express my extreme disappointment in your vote to advance the proposed "assault weapons" ban, LB 958. The rifles this bill would ban include several rifles commonly used for both hunting and competitive target shooting. The thought that "evil" features such as a pistol grip or a thumbhole stock would make a rifle more likely to be used in a crime is incredibly naive.

Legislation such as this is nothing but feel good pandering to make it look like government is taking action. Why not do something to prevent criminals and the mentally unstable from gaining access to weapons, which they already cannot legally own, than infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens? I hope you will reconsider and oppose this bill.
 
WHen you all get to talking about replacing the fool who introduced this bill, don't get caught up in just looking for a "pro-gun" representative. Remember this is a part of the reason the U.S. Senate and House were turned back over to the LIBS! When Democrats run on CONSERVATIVE VALUES they win, but when they run on their true beliefs they lose big time. Also the Libs are very party-loyal--they'll stab you in the back once they get sworn in.
This happens to any LIB that runs regardless of party. So vote and vote right, check the true issues behind your local/state representatives don't let the libs run your state legislature.

Also call/write your state's Senators and Representives. If you get pro-active in Nebraska you could be the stopping point for this going forward.
GOd-Bless and good luck.
 
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It will be a lot better once we get that knothead Chambers out (thanks to term limits this is his last year). He's also introduced bills in the past to ban all hunting.
 
Sen. Ashford,
I attended the January hearing on lb958, where numerous people spoke against your bill, stating that nothing in the bill would have prevented the von Maur Atrocity. Your response to this was "Do you suggest we do NOTHING?" No, I suggest you eliminate restrictions on concealed carry, eliminating the Gun Free Zones these nuts target. THAT would be the logical thing to do, but would not fit your agenda. So you completely gutted the bill and replaced it with what amounts to an open ended "We'll ban whatever weapons we deem to be to dangerous for citizens to own" Panel. Sly move there- now it doesn't have to stand up to a Public Hearing. Banning AK-47s will not stop the next mass shooting. Doubt me? Marijauna IS BANNED, yet the von Maur nutcase SMOKED IT REGULARLY.

What a weapons ban (of ANY sort) WILL do is cause more resentment towards Government, which is none to popular as it is. If you think that thousands of Nebraska gun owners are going to stand for a handful of government appointees telling us what guns we can have in our gunsafes, you are sadly mistaken. We have seen this before, in England.

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That is a portion of the e-mail I sent Ashford. None to friendly, but that is as civil as I could make it in 3 drafts.:fire::fire::fire::cuss::cuss::cuss:
 
Jimbob - were most of the people at the hearing for or against the bill? It's bad enough that he introduces a bill like this, but even worse when it goes against the express wishes of the citizens.
 
IIRC, there were 2-3 times as many against it. Wait a minute ..... I have a post written on it elsewhere......
 
Couldn't find the whole account....

25 Jan 08 Judiciary Hearing

cmzneb was also there, pointing out the obvious anti tone of the "gun violence" panel......... well said, Chris!

I now regret not speaking, and at the risk of a phlem-peppered coughing fit, should have gone ahead and bit the bullet, if only to point out that nothing in lb958 would have prevented von Maur or any of the recent highly publicized shootings. There was a political cartoon (by STR8T) in the Plattsmouth Journal that would have dovetailed PERFECTLY with this:

Taxpayer: "You had 300 bills left over from '07..... and You'll introduce another 400 bills this year?!

Legis. : Don't Worry... when this session's over there's only ONE bill with your name on it.

Senator Chambers spent some time pinning down the NRA Hired Gun, trying to get him to say that doing NOTHING was preferable to doing SOMETHING. (The general sense I got from the legislators was that they wanted to DO SOMETHING!) The first thought that came into my head was that if they felt they must DO SOMETHING, regardless of whether it would effective or not, to make themselves feel better, they should go make silly faces at themselves in the mirror and leave Law Abiding Gun Owners alone.......... NOTHING would be better than piling more useless regulation upon regulation, as it would allow more time to come up with SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK. Then again, it was probably for the best that I did not speak............... such smarta$$ery probably wouldn't help the cause.


I also regret not pulling my Eldest out of school (she attended the LR178 hearing), just so she could see Ernie in action......... if we had a pro-gun Legistator of such Eloquence for 38 years, you'd have to get dispensation from the state NOT to have a gun!

The hearing , as I recall it was scheduled from 1 to 4 PM, with 2 other items on the agenda, one being Ernie's Hunting ban. The majority of people in the room were there in opposition to that, and most of those were in opposition to 958 also. As usual, the bill I was there about was sheduled for the last hour, and as usual, the first agenda items ran long., leaving 40 minutes to testimony on 958. Ashford trotted out the family of one of those killed at von Maur, the guy that got hit in the arm there, and they made very powerful emotional appeals to the Comittee to DO SOMETHING about gun violence. IIRC there was also a woman there that spoke about the need for more money for more nut supervision.

The NRA rep got slapped around by Ernie, as usual. We had 5 guys from our board speak against the various portions of 958. Gunscribe was not deterred by Chambers at all,..... there were a couple of other progun speakers that we did not know, including an older gentleman from out state that spoke of personal responsibility. Ernie prompty asked the guy if there was a traffic light in his town, and then attacked his point, saying something to the effect that these are different times and what worked in Podunk in the 1950's would not work today in his district.......

So, what I take from this is Ashford realized that the hunters (1/2 the people in the room were there in opposition to Chamber's Hunting Ban) of Nebraska were not going to allow 958 to go anywhere as it was. So he gutted it and changed it into an Assault Weapons Ban, which he figures hunters won't care about. This assumes that hunters ingnore the history of how the Gun Ban Movement has worked in every other country in the world: Divide and Conquer. "We don't want YOUR guns. We just want to get rid of these dangerous (Assault rifles/sniper rifles/ semi-automatic handguns/ junk handguns/ unregistered guns), until at last there are not enough legal gun owners to protect their rights at the ballot box.

There is a poem written by a German in the 40's that chillingly sums it up.

"When they came for the Jews, I did not stand up, because I was not a Jew.
When they came for the Communists, I did not stand up, because not stand up, because I was not a Communist.
When they came for the Homosexuals, I did not stand up, because I was not a Homosexual.
When they came for the Gypsies, I did not stand up, because I was not a Gypsy.
When they came for the ( and on and on)

When they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.

Folks, just because you don't have an AK-47, does not mean this will not affect you. It CAN happen here. IT IS. lb958 is PROOF. Don't just preach to the choir. If you live in Nebraska, call all your "Fudd" friends. E-mail the ones that have the internet. Get crackin'!
 
Here's my senator's reply to my email:


> Brian, the bill itself doesn’t automatically ban any guns. It creates a commission that will determine specific weapons that will be banned. The commission is made up of seven members and includes a firearms retailer as well as an appointee from the Governor, who I am sure will be concerned about not including weapons that are commonly used in hunting or competitive shooting.
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And here's my reply back to her:

Senator McGill,

Unfortunately, this does nothing to ease my concerns and could conceivably be an even worse scenario. The current governer may be concerned about preserving our rights, but having several other unelected individuals creating laws which I have to abide by is unacceptable. In addition, the commission would include a representative from Omaha - I know the city has the majority of Nebraska's population, but it should should not have undue influence outside of its city limits.

Again, I urge you to instead do something to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the mentally unstable. Do you really think banning a gun will keep a criminal from owning it?


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If you live in Nebraska, make sure you contact your senator. This is an issue we can't afford to ignore.
 
My greatest concern with lb958 is the notion that the Legislature can ban ANY gun, not that they will ban certain makes and models. By banning A gun or gun type, they set the precedent that they can ban any other, regardless what the State and Federal Constitutions say.

I don't own an AK-47. But if they can ban that as an "assault weapon" and claim it is "to inherently dangerous" for the people (but NOT for the Government!) of Nebraska to own, then what is to stop them from calling my deer gun a "sniper rifle" an banning it? It's more powerful, has greater range and is far mor accurate than the vonMaur Nut's weapon.

Keep sending the e-mails, and spreadin' the word!
 
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