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In response to this thread, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=324915, I wrote the following letter. Please critique it. Not quite thrilled with the way I closed it. Please let me know before I send it on to the newspapers here in Nebraska. Thanks!

I’d like to begin by expressing my deepest sympathies for the victims of the Westroads Mall atrocity.

During a recent report on Channel 6 News, WOWT-TV, several uninformed, ignorant statements were made by Dr. Joseph Strothert of the Nebraska Medical Center. Dr. Strothert stated that, “The faster the bullet is going the more damage it does.” That statement, while not inherently false, disregards several aspects of terminal ballistics. The speed of a bullet is not the sole factor in determining how a bullet performs when it hits its target. Bullet weight, diameter, and construction are all just as important as velocity when determining the effects of a bullet on tissue.

Such blanket statements threaten and condemn several venerable hunting cartridges such as the .223 Remington, .243 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .308 Winchester, and .30-06 Springfield which expel bullets from their cases at speeds much higher than the 7.62x39mm cartridge used by the Von Maur killer. Conversely, many popular handgun cartridges such as the 9mm Luger, .45 ACP, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum propel bullets much more slowly than the killer’s. However, no one would contest the lethality of those rounds, or those fired from any gun. It is also unlikely that the events at Von Maur would have been less tragic if the killer was using a firearm chambered for a slower cartridge. Velocity is only part of the equation: a bowling ball can cause severe damage to human beings even at speeds relatively slow compared to bullets.

The point is that Dr. Strothert is unethically and immorally preying on the ignorance of the public. The general public is not expected to fully understand bullet velocity, caliber, and expansion but Dr. Strothert, through a lie by omission, has sought to confuse the public and place misinformation in their heads.

The good doctor then goes on to say, “These are very high velocity weapons that are only meant to destroy tissue and kill people." He apparently sees no difference in using a firearm to take a life in cold blood and using a firearm to protect human life from an aggressor. In the event of a home invasion, a rifle might be an appropriate choice to protect one’s family and Dr. Strothert is in no position to dictate how the public may or may not defend their loved ones from those that wish to cause harm to them. His above statement also shows complete disregard for athletes and competitors who participate in various forms of shooting sports such as silhouette and bullseye competition. Viewed another way, a firearm is just a tool. It may be used for protection, aggression, recreation, or putting food on the table. In that way, a rifle is no different than a hammer, a knife, or a baseball bat. While I am sure that Dr. Strothert is an intelligent man and capable physician, his area of expertise is medicine, not criminal justice or ballistics. He should stick to healing people rather than spreading half-truths.

In the same report, Omaha Senator Brad Ashford proceeded to call for more gun laws. Senator Ashford seems to be operating under the assumption that criminals obey laws. By definition, a criminal does not obey the law; that is what makes them a criminal. The Von Maur killer broke several laws on that fateful day: murder, attempted murder, assault, use of a deadly weapon to commit a felony, unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, theft by unlawful taking, unlawful discharge of a firearm, and disturbing the peace. Would more laws have stopped him?

Sen. Ashford called for a ban on assault weapons at the federal level like the 10-year ban that expired in 2004. He said, "They're involved in many cases with that horrible, horrible, horrible destruction and death, from Columbine to Westroads. I don't know how much more we need to know." Sen. Ashford should know that the Columbine Massacre occurred in 1999, right in the middle of the ineffective ban. The killers in that attack also broke other federal laws including the National Firearms Act of 1934 and The Gun Control Act of 1968. The senator also said, “A bigger issue is, should we be selling assault weapons without background checks.” The Von Maur killer stole the weapon: Is the Senator proposing a background check on thieves before they steal firearms?

Sen. Ashford has apparently drawn up bills to "Ensure that firearms are safely stored in the home, that the weapons that are stolen from the home are reported to police officers." How does the Senator plan on enforcing these laws? Does he intend to violate the Fourth Amendment and have police engage in warrantless searches of homes looking for improperly stored weapons? Both laws would only come into play after the fact, after an attack has occurred. Perhaps the Senator should work on a bill making it illegal to shoot people in a crowded mall. Because more laws means we’re all safer, even if criminals break laws.

Let us digress into fantasy for just a moment. Imagine a world exactly the same as ours but with one difference: no guns. No one has a gun at all. There are still good guys and bad guys, but neither of them has a firearm. However, people will still die:

- May 18, 1927: Andrew Kehoe killed 45 people and injured 58, most of them children, after he bombed the local school in Bath, Michigan.
- 1933 – 1945: Approximately 11 million Jews and others deemed “undesirable” were killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust. Most died in gas chambers while others were subject to Nazi experiments or died from various diseases.
- April 6, 1976 – December 12, 1978: John Wayne Gacy confesses to 33 murders of young men and boys in the Chicago, IL area that he choked with a rope or board while he sexually assaulted them.
- July 7, 1986: Juan Gonzalez attacked passengers on the Staten Island Ferry in New York City with a machete. Two were killed and nine were injured.
- March 20, 1995: Members of Aum Shinrikyo killed twelve, severely injured fifty, and caused temporary vision problems for nearly a thousand people after they unleashed Sarin gas in the Tokyo, Japan subway.
- April 19, 1995: The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, OK was destroyed by a bomb planted by Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh, resulting in 168 deaths and 800 injuries.
- July 27, 1996: Two people died and 111 were injured when a bomb was detonated in Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, GA by Eric Robert Rudolph.

This small sample serves to show that deplorable acts of violence can and do occur without firearms.

I do not proclaim to have all of the answers. Everyone is looking for someone to blame in the wake of this atrocity while it seems the person to blame was the perpetrator of this vicious act. The police, his family, the mayor, the state legislature, Congress, the mall, the store… none of them were at fault. You cannot prevent these things unless you want to trample the rights of all citizens. The Second Amendment was never about hunting and never will be. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
 
Excellent letter. If I were sending it, I also would address:

1) the media glorification that the kid sought
2) pistol-free zones

Again, excellent letter...well thought out!

Doc2005
 
Good letter. The Bath Bombing hits home; my great-grandfather was a student there when that happened. He was lucky enough to be finished with his final's for the semester and was on the families farm (where he still lives to this day) working the field. He could hear the blast and feel the ground shake from miles away. He was then on duty to haul friends and peers to the hospital in the back of his dad's car, a story he's only told me once in my life because it still haunts him.

Good luck with your letter. I like to see well written and thought out responses to topics such as this. It is obvious you spent more time on this than you would, say, a forum response. Editing, revising and asking for opinion is a good way to submit a good response. I think you have a great response posted above.
 
You should add a date:

9/11/2001.

Largest mass murder in the history of the United States, perpetrated with box cutters and airplanes.
 
Doc2005, good points. Re: your first one, I'm sure you noticed I intentionally omitted his name. The glorification (demonization?) aspect of the situation is one I'd rather avoid since, IMHO, there are more pertinent issues. As for your second one, I'll add it.

Good catch on the plural, standing wolf.
Regolith, I'll add 9/11.

I don't ask this in an accusatory tone: are these your own words?
Yes and no. I've heard that phrase and variations thereof several times before. If it is attributable to someone, I'd be more than happy to cite them.



Amended letter:
I’d like to begin by expressing my deepest sympathies for the victims of the Westroads Mall atrocity.

During a recent report on Channel 6 News, WOWT-TV, several uninformed, ignorant statements were made by Dr. Joseph Strothert of the Nebraska Medical Center. Dr. Strothert stated that, “The faster the bullet is going the more damage it does.” That statement, while not inherently false, disregards several aspects of terminal ballistics. The speed of a bullet is not the sole factor in determining how a bullet performs when it hits its target. Bullet weight, diameter, and construction are all just as important as velocity when determining the effects of a bullet on tissue.

Such blanket statements threaten and condemn several venerable hunting cartridges such as the .223 Remington, .243 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .308 Winchester, and .30-06 Springfield which expel bullets from their cases at speeds much higher than the 7.62x39mm cartridge used by the Von Maur killer. Conversely, many popular handgun cartridges such as the 9mm Luger, .45 ACP, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum propel bullets much more slowly than the killer’s choice of cartridge. However, no one would contest the lethality of those rounds, or those fired from any gun. It is also unlikely that the events at Von Maur would have been less tragic if the killer was using a firearm chambered for a slower cartridge. For example, the Virginia Tech murderer used handguns which fire relatively slow bullets, not a rifle. Velocity is only part of the equation: a bowling ball can cause severe damage to human beings even at speeds relatively slow compared to bullets.

The point is that Dr. Strothert is unethically and immorally preying on the ignorance of the public. The general public is not expected to fully understand bullet velocity, caliber, and expansion but Dr. Strothert, through a lie by omission, has sought to confuse the public and place misinformation in their heads.

The good doctor then goes on to say, “These are very high velocity weapons that are only meant to destroy tissue and kill people." He apparently sees no difference in using a firearm to take a life in cold blood and using a firearm to protect human life from an aggressor. In the event of a home invasion, a rifle might be an appropriate choice to protect one’s family and Dr. Strothert is in no position to dictate how the public may or may not defend their loved ones from those that wish to cause harm to them. His above statement also shows complete disregard for athletes and competitors who participate in various forms of shooting sports such as silhouette and bullseye competition. Viewed another way, a firearm is just a tool. It may be used for protection, aggression, recreation, or putting food on the table. In that way, a rifle is no different than a hammer, a knife, or a baseball bat. While I am sure that Dr. Strothert is an intelligent man and capable physician, his area of expertise is medicine, not criminal justice or ballistics. He should stick to healing people rather than spreading half-truths.

In the same report, Omaha Senator Brad Ashford proceeded to call for more gun laws. Senator Ashford seems to be operating under the assumption that criminals obey laws. By definition, a criminal does not obey the law; that is what makes him a criminal. The Von Maur killer broke several laws on that fateful day: murder, attempted murder, assault, use of a deadly weapon to commit a felony, unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, theft by unlawful taking, unlawful discharge of a firearm, and disturbing the peace. Would more laws have stopped him?

Sen. Ashford called for a ban on assault weapons at the federal level like the 10-year ban that expired in 2004. He said, "They're involved in many cases with that horrible, horrible, horrible destruction and death, from Columbine to Westroads. I don't know how much more we need to know." Sen. Ashford should know that the Columbine Massacre occurred in 1999, right in the middle of the ineffective ban. The killers in that attack also broke other federal laws including the National Firearms Act of 1934 and The Gun Control Act of 1968. The senator also said, “A bigger issue is, should we be selling assault weapons without background checks.” The Von Maur killer stole the weapon: Is the Senator proposing a background check on thieves before they steal firearms?

Sen. Ashford has apparently drawn up bills to "Ensure that firearms are safely stored in the home, that the weapons that are stolen from the home are reported to police officers." How does the Senator plan on enforcing these laws? Does he intend to violate the Fourth Amendment and have police engage in warrantless searches of homes looking for improperly stored weapons? Both laws would only come into play after the fact, after an attack has occurred. Perhaps the Senator should work on a bill making it illegal to shoot people in a crowded mall. Because more laws means we’re all safer, even if criminals break laws, right?

It should also be pointed out that at least three of the mass shootings in 2007 occurred in so-called “Gun Free Zones.” Trolley Square Mall in Utah, Virginia Tech in Virginia, and Von Maur in Nebraska were all considered “Gun Free Zones” either by statute or by the policy of the property owner. Criminals do not respect laws and they certainly do not respect silly “No Concealed Weapons Permitted” or “No Weapons of Any Kind Allowed.” I have never heard of a massacre at an NRA Banquet or a gun show. These gun-free zones, or, rather, victim disarmament zones, effectively prohibit licensed, law-abiding citizens from carrying personal weapons for self-defense. Disarmed citizens follow the law and disarm themselves, only to gunned down by lawless savages in a gun-free zone. How ironic.

Let us digress into fantasy for just a moment. Imagine a world exactly the same as ours but with one difference: no guns. No one has a gun at all. There are still good guys and bad guys, but neither of them has a firearm. However, people will still die:

- May 18, 1927: Andrew Kehoe killed 45 people and injured 58, most of them children, after he bombed the local school in Bath, Michigan.
- 1933 – 1945: Approximately 11 million Jews and others deemed “undesirable” were killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust. Most died in gas chambers while others were subject to Nazi experiments or died from various diseases.
- April 6, 1976 – December 12, 1978: John Wayne Gacy confesses to 33 murders of young men and boys in the Chicago, IL area that he choked with a rope or board while he sexually assaulted them.
- July 7, 1986: Juan Gonzalez attacked passengers on the Staten Island Ferry in New York City with a machete. Two were killed and nine were injured.
- March 20, 1995: Members of Aum Shinrikyo killed twelve, severely injured fifty, and caused temporary vision problems for nearly a thousand people after they unleashed Sarin gas in the Tokyo, Japan subway.
- April 19, 1995: The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, OK was destroyed by a bomb planted by Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh, resulting in 168 deaths and 800 injuries.
- July 27, 1996: Two people died and 111 were injured when a bomb was detonated in Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, GA by Eric Robert Rudolph.
- September 11, 2001: More than 2,900 people were killed after four hijacked airliners were commandeered. The hijackers reportedly used box cutters to seize control of the planes, which were flown into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon in Virginia. The fourth plane crashed in rural Pennsylvania after passengers heroically tried to retake control of the jet.

This small sample serves to show that deplorable acts of violence can and do occur without firearms.

I do not proclaim to have all of the answers. Everyone is looking for someone to blame in the wake of this atrocity while it seems the person to blame was the perpetrator of this vicious act. The police, his family, the mayor, the state legislature, Congress, the mall, the store… none of them were at fault. You cannot prevent these acts unless you want to trample the rights of all citizens. The Second Amendment was never about hunting and never will be. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
 
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Done.

I sent to the Omaha World Herald, Lincoln Journal Star, Hastings Tribune, Grand Island Independent, Kearney Hub, and NY Times. It's long, so I doubt any of them will print it. It's also filled with too much logic and too many facts.
 
Excellent letter. All of it. It's an abundance of logic and reason, everything the antis aren't.

The guy really steps in it when he gets all technical about bullet velocity and energy, then concludes AK-47s ought to be banned. An incorrect premise leading to a worthless conclusion. You destroyed that argument.

If it is attributable to someone, I'd be more than happy to cite them.
You did it again. Someone: singular; them: plural. :D
 
The Independent is still catching hell for publishing the letter from some guy that blamed it all, (the Omaha Shooting), on the Hunter Education Program.
 
You did it again. Someone: singular; them: plural.

Except when used in English to replace a gender specific pronoun, such as "he", "she", "him" or "her", with a non-gender specific one. Its not a traditional use of the word, but its becoming an accepted form, as using "he or she" or "he/she" is cumbersome and "it" is fairly unacceptable.
 
Hi. No offense. It's too long and implies you are a ballistics/wound expert. Deep six the whole thing and ask one question. "What experience, background and training does Dr. Strothert have to say that, "very high velocity weapons that are only meant to destroy tissue and kill people"?
Then you add that weapons nor any other inanimate object can have velocity nor the ablitity to do anything. Physics doesn't allow it.
 
May I suggest something like:

I’d like to begin by expressing my deepest sympathies for the victims at Westroads Mall.

During a recent report on Channel 6 News, WOWT-TV, several statements, about how dangerous guns are, were made by Dr. Joseph Strothert of the Nebraska Medical Center. What he said is based in the truth that virtually every useful item in society is also dangerous when misused.

In the same report, Omaha Senator Brad Ashford proceeded to call for more gun laws. By definition, a criminal does not obey the law; that is what makes him a criminal. How could more laws possibly help?

I do not proclaim to have all of the answers. Everyone is looking for someone to blame in the wake of this atrocity while it seems the person to blame was the perpetrator of this vicious act. The police, his family, the mayor, the state legislature, Congress, the mall, the store… none of them were at fault. You cannot prevent these things, even by trampling on the rights of all citizens. The Second Amendment was never about hunting and never will be. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
 
ETA: Many thanks for all of the comments (good & bad) and the praise. :)

It's too long and implies you are a ballistics/wound expert.
I disagree. It implies I can read the side of an ammo box. My concern is that the doctor's statements will resonate with hunters who see "no need" for the 7.62x39 and the archetypal gun that fires it, the AK-47 (and semi-auto clones thereof). Such hunters will condemn the cartridge without realizing their old deer rifle is potentially far more lethal.

The Independent is still catching hell for publishing the letter from some guy that blamed it all, (the Omaha Shooting), on the Hunter Education Program.
LOL, I read that letter. It was from someone at some anti-hunting group based in New Paltz, NY IIRC. I give the Independent credit for publishing it. It is certainly the contrarian view here in Nebraska.

I thought about responding to it, but I figured it was too insane to warrant a response. Surely enough, plenty of others have replied.

For those who did not see the letter in question, it basically said that hunting creates mass murderers. Here's the link:
http://www.theindependent.com/stories/12092007/opi_letters09.shtml
Gunman used hunting skills at Omaha mall

The world was stunned by the senseless shootings at the Westroads Mall and we mourn for the families and friends of the victims. While nothing can ease the pain of the survivors, it is time for the firearms industry and Nebraska Game and Parks to take partial responsibility for these wanton acts of violence, since incidents such as these expose the fine line between violence against wildlife and violence against humans.

Soon after the shootings took place, NBC4.com reported that Robert Hawkins was seen with a gun and was believed to be going hunting, something he did quite often. Hawkins now joins other infamous killers such as the teens who slaughtered twelve Columbine High School students in Littleton, Colorado in 1999, and the Jonesboro, Arkansas children who killed four classmates and a teacher in 1998, who were hunters before turning their guns toward people.

Sadly, the killing skills used by Hawkins are taught to Nebraska's children by the Game and Parks Commission under the guise of "Hunter Education." As long as state agencies conspire with the weapons industry in promoting violence as recreation, senseless killings will always take place.

Firearms and ammunition excise taxes are allocated to support and promote sport hunting - violence disguised as recreation - and the wildlife management business benefits every time a gun or ammunition is purchased, regardless of how those weapons are used. The time has come to re-write the firearms tax laws and have gun taxes support the medical/funeral expenses of the victims of gun violence, as well as supporting crime fighting programs.

Please join our members and supports in Grand Island and across the nation in eradicating the cancer of sport hunting forever. Visit www.cashwildwatch.org to help make the world a safer place for wildlife and people.

Joe Miele,
Vice President
The Committee to Abolish Sport Hunting
New Paltz, NY
 
Putting myself in the shoes of the casual reader, I got turned off from the start. Way too long and lots of info that no one outside of a gun forum will be interested in. As a casual reader (which is 99% of your target audience) I didn't make it past the 1st paragraph.
Every word, phrase and idea has to have this 99% in mind.
 
strat81 said:
Yes and no. I've heard that phrase and variations thereof several times before. If it is attributable to someone, I'd be more than happy to cite them.
Fair enough. I asked because I had recently wrote something that I posted to my personal blog that used almost the exact same wording, and have used that exact phrase (semi-colon and all) numerous times on this, and other forums.

Although that doesn't make me the "owner" of the phrase, constantly using it to the point where I basically had it copied to my clipboard make me scrutinize that phrase more.

I'm not saying you did anything wrong; I just wanted to check. Technically it's "common knowledge" if you've seen the same idea presented in a few different places, and thus doesn't require a citation anyhow.

Thanks for writing this, by the way. I love it.
 
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