Nebulous Terms and Silly Gun Expressions

[Alte Schule]

The above post reminded me of this gem.

 

[Rule3]

If you had ever shot anything living with a 45 acp you would know stopping power is created by the knockdown power, which is essentially the hydrostatic shock + the energy dump, this creates the real world energy (as opposed to the on paper energy) which transforms to catastrophic trauma waves starting at the point of impact.

I know this because of my high stakes, high security job at a mall where I am under fire daily as part of an elite tactical unit.

There is really no hydro static" shock with handgun calibers, They do not go fast enough.

I didn't say it. Let the debate continue.

Federal ammo

 

[Outlaw75]

Shotties! Using Glock to mean handgun. Aquila to refer to ammunition produced by Aguila (Eagle). Recoil junky. Smokepole, boomstick and any other cute reference to a firearm (including those "short barreled rifle" and "short barreled shotgun" references cooked up solely for use in the NFA). Saturday night specials and other terms which disparage a tool that is affordable.

These are all relatively minor annoyances, but they are my pet peeves.

Don't forget "pew pew". I refuse to acknowledge anyone who refers to firearms as "pew pew".

 

[desmobob]

Don't forget "pew pew". I refuse to acknowledge anyone who refers to firearms as "pew pew".

I think this is one of those silly terms necessarily put in use by YouTubers to avoid censorship/demonetization/etc. I can understand its use as such, but for general conversation it seems ridiculous.

 

[Bazoo]

Not picking on you here,

"better than nothing" - That may be true, but is hardly a lofty goal
"wouldn't want / nobody volunteer to get shot with it" - Duh. I don't want to get shot by a BB, that doesn't make a BB quickly incapacitating.

"nobody notices, or cares" - As related to obvious printing or open carry. You don't know either for sure, only that nobody said anything.

My wife and I were in the grocery store open carrying. Wife had a hot pink holster, and she’s a little thing. The checkout girl said I like your phone case. My wife turned back to her for a better view and said it’s not a phone case.

Course that doesn’t mean others don’t notice OC, I’m sure they do. But it made me think of it

 

[21H40]

Don't forget "pew pew". I refuse to acknowledge anyone who refers to firearms as "pew pew".

Exactly! The correct usage is Pew! Pew! Pew! Much like the internet's inability to discern between proper use of their, there, and they're.

 

[GEM]

5 is enough or you ain't doing your job.
I can't shoot a Glock because of the grip angle.

 

[Bazoo]

I believe in hydrostatic shock. If you shoot a water filled coke can with a 22 lr solid you see less “shock” than if you shoot a water filled coke can with a HP 22 lr. At what point it is devastating to flesh, I do not know.

 

[The Night Rider]

Right here on THR, I heard some guy claim he had a Ruger SAA.

Okay what am I missing? The Single Action Army was a model of pistol right? Is it only a Single Action Army if it's made by Colt?

Is that not the same designation as a 1911? Like a Rock Island Armory 1911 is just as much a 1911 as a Ruger 1911 as a Springfield Arms 1911 as a Colt 1911 right?

 

[The Night Rider]

Those are the ones who scare me. You know that guy is one hell of a shot, because he's not chasing anybody.

Never run from a fat cop.



If you run from a skinny cop(Davis) he'll take it as a challenge and he will chase you down.
A fat cop (Sullivan) he knows he can't catch you, he won't even try he'll just shoot you.

FWIW hate Tac Speak. Please don't ask me what I'm "Running" on my "Shotty".

 

[DeepSouth]

And who among us in the "old guard" can forget the infamous "tactical wheelbarrow" concept..?

I had totally forgotten about him. iirc he stopped when he got locked up for gun violations, that could have been more internet rumor too.

There is really no hydro static" shock with handgun calibers, They do not go fast enough.

I didn't say it. Let the debate continue.

.500 S&W is a handgun caliber.

I’ll never forget the first time I saw my brother set a gallon jug full of water on a concrete block, shoot the jug and the block busted. That was with his 454 Casull

 

[Mal H]

I had totally forgotten about him. iirc he stopped when he got locked up for gun violations, that could have been more internet rumor too.

You're confusing Gecko45 with "gunkid" (or a hundred different user names he's come up with over the past two decades). Gecko45 was a legitimate gun shop owner who posted his witty material only in jest.

gunkid (John Melvin Davis, q.v.), on the other hand, was the tactical wheelbarrow guy who was convicted of a felony and served time in prison. Oddly enough, he still tries to create user accounts here, but he is soon found by our members or staff.

 

[kje54]

I'm taking notes as to what triggers some people...........

 

[Outlaw75]

And who among us in the "old guard" can forget the infamous "tactical wheelbarrow" concept..?

Please tell me that exists online somewhere! And that you have a link to it!

 

[The Night Rider]

I had totally forgotten about him. iirc he stopped when he got locked up for gun violations, that could have been more internet rumor too

Apparently somebody did the research and he actually went to prison and when he got paroled part of his parole was he can't have anything to do with the internet. He might even be dead now for all I know

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Please tell me that exists online somewhere! And that you have a link to it!

Sorry, wish I did but it was a long time ago.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

I believe in hydrostatic shock. If you shoot a water filled coke can with a 22 lr solid you see less “shock” than if you shoot a water filled coke can with a HP 22 lr. At what point it is devastating to flesh, I do not know.

That's not hydrostatic shock. That's a pressure wave created by the temporary cavity.

 

[Jim Watson]

There is really no hydro static" shock with handgun calibers, They do not go fast enough.

A Swedish game department study once found that the "pulsatile cavern" was only a factor at 2650+ fps.
About like a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, what a coincidence.

 

[PWC]

"Shotty" for shotgun

Weapon, where firearm is a better, more appropriate usage

 

[Leon tP]

Yep , that was a loose reference to him. I miss those times on the internet.
I bet many here don’t even know what a “mall ninja” was much less who the term was coined after.

I think my favorite part was the use of Duct tape to attach/double-up more "trauma" plates to his body armor. It was either that or the special boots that allowed him to climb walls, but you had to be a high level ninjitsu man to make it all work... Great stuff.

At the other nameless forum, we're not allowed to talk about him or the thread will get locked down fast. Fun memories though.

So far, we have a good list going so keep them coming.

 

[Hokkmike]

Meal Team Six


That's a good one

Where do I sign up?

 

[Hokkmike]

"Cop Killer Bullet".... "High Powered Rifle" (often used in conjunction with the .223) .... "Gun Violence" (like the perps would simply be peace loving otherwise)
"Spraying Bullets" (often used in connection to semi auto rifles) "Weapon of War" (anything to disparage the venerable AR)

 

[.308 Norma]

Is it only a Single Action Army if it's made by Colt?

Is that not the same designation as a 1911? Like a Rock Island Armory 1911 is just as much a 1911 as a Ruger 1911 as a Springfield Arms 1911 as a Colt 1911 right?

I don't know if anyone else (other than Colt) ever made a Single Action Army, but I do know Ruger never made one. For a long time, they didn't make their version of a 1911 either. A Ruger Blackhawk, or a Ruger "Super" Blackhawk is a SA (Single Action), not a SAA (Single Action Army).

 

[d2wing]

Self-important gun guys often make up terms or get weird about redefining terms so that they think they are impressive in their Jargon. like calling a clip a detachable box magazine. Get a dictionary.

 

[.308 Norma]

Gun control stops criminals.

Of course it does. Just like the sign like this one in front of the local high school stops the students that might bring drugs to school.
Drug Free School Zone Sign, Square, SKU: K-4124 (mysecuritysign.com)