Need a good excuse for a CCL!!! Please help!

[SniperStraz]

...Let me explain. I will be going to school in MD soon. MD is not a "Shall Issue" state and in order to get a CCL I must first convince the state troopers that I "need" to carry a gun. I know that I can get a Non-Resident CCL but I just need a good reason to put on the application. I'm not a diamond dealer, lawyer, judge or doctor so I'm kinda screwed. I know its very hard to get licensed in MD but with all of your experiences and advise I figured I could come up with at least one good excuse. I just don't want to waste $50 so some trooper can use my app. as toilet paper. Thanx for your help.

 

[crashresidue]

Cheers Sniper,

If you're going to Uof M, ask the local LEO's to pull up the assaults listing for the parking lots on U/M campus.

Years ago, the Vet's Club in College Park used to offer a "walk you to your car" service because of the mega numbers of muggings and assaults taking place in the parking lots.

If that doesn't work, I give up.

Gentle winds,
cr

 

[SniperStraz]

I'm pretty sure...

...its illegal to carry on campus anyway. Am I wrong?

 

[Zen21Tao]

Need a good excuse for a CCL!!! Please help!

One word....... Zombies !!!
(Sorry couldn't help myself)


Sorry, but according to packing.org:
http://www.packing.org/state/maryland/#statenote

In MD it is almost impossible for a non-resident to get a permit. For that matter most MD residents can't either. (emphasis added) You can view the law on Permits (Article 27 Crimes and Punishment: Handguns: § 36E. Permits) by scrolling to the bottom of this page.

To add to this. On the Maryland State Police page under Laws on Handguns the following note is contained in Maryland Law about whom and what may be carried on or about a person. Article 27 SEC. 36B This section is constitutional as a reasonable exercise of the State's police power. And it does not violate the Second Amendment because that Amendment is not applicable to the States. Onderdonk v. Handgun Permit Review Board, 44 Md. App. 132, 407 A.2d 763 (1979).

 

[crashresidue]

Cheers Sniper,

Check MD gun laws about "lockable" weapons. My new Bersa has an internal lock, which I hate, but it might get you some legal manuevering(sp?) room.

Also, a Bersa can be re-assembled in about 3 seconds. Maybe one part in the backpack and one in your pocket?

Some laws, I give the "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" test.

Is your safety vs. the local law worth the danger?

It's a "comfort level" thing.

Break the "law" at your discretion - but know it's always YOUR decision.

Gentle winds,
cr

 

[CNYCacher]

I was unaware that a non-resident MD CCL was possible. Do you think that "I have a CCL that is valid in every surrounding state, and I really would like to drive THROUGH your fine state instead of AROUND it when I am on vacation." Would work as a reason?

 

[Library Guy]

Documented threats by zombies

Here in Maryland, one needs more than fear zombies to be approved for concealed carrying. One must have received documented threats by zombies.

I quote the Maryland Application:

NOTICE TO ALL HANDGUN PERMIT APPLICANTS: (Additional requirements for type of permit):

1) Owner or Employee of a Business: Submit photocopies of the Traders License or Business License, and if the purpose of the permit is for:
(a) Making deposits: Photocopies of six (6) random deposit slips for the business showing the cash deposits within a year of the application submission date or a letter from the bank attesting that your business has a cash flow.
(b) Cash Flow: Photocopies of Ten (10) receipts showing cash paid for supplies and/or cash received for services.
(c) Requesting a permit for one of your employees, or if you are an employee and you have permission from your employer to obtain a permit: A letter from your employer on his business stationery, explaining in detail why you need to carry a gun as part of your duties.

2) Professional Activities: Doctors, Pharmacies, etc., Must show evidence of legitimacy of business activity and valid certification or license.

3) Correctional Officers: Must submit verification of employment and documentation of threats and assaults.

4) Former Police Officer: If you have resigned or retired, you must show evidence of your tenure in law enforcement, such as a letter from your Agency.

5) Private Detective/Security Guard/Special Police & Railroad Police Commissions: All applicants who are employed as Private Detectives, Security Guards, Special Police, and Railroad Police, must submit a certification of qualification with a handgun from a Maryland State Police Certified Handgun Instructor on an MSP form. A copy of the form letter supporting “good and substantial reasons,” ownership of weapon, and location where the weapon will be maintained. (This form can be obtained from your employer).

6) Personal Protection: There must be documented evidence of recent threats, robberies, and/or assaults, supported by official police reports or notarized statements from impartial witnesses.

 

[SniperStraz]

Thanx for your help people...

...keep 'em coming

 

[darwin]

Getting a permit in Maryland is nearly impossible for anyone. Literally anyone. The exceptions are a cash business where you are carrying large amounts of money, security jobs, or someone has been threatening your life.

Getting one in College Park as a non-resident student in PG County is impossible. I have friends who have fought the good fight, citing the crime that happens down there and how the area is completely unsafe and they simply get denied every single time.

Maryland is pretty much an anti-gun state, and I doubt very much you have any chance of getting a permit. Sorry to say it, but it is the truth.

 

[gunsmith]

get a part time job as an armed security guard

most cops won't know the law and assume you're allowed to carry.
Thats how I managed in San Francisco, but to be honest, no one ever knew I was packing.
I carried sans permit for years in CA.

 

[Novus Collectus]

I'm pretty sure...

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...its illegal to carry on campus anyway. Am I wrong?

The no firearms in "Public schools" or "schools" or on their property law in MD does not apply to universities. I have been told by campus police of a state university and other officers this.

A university may have their own restrictions, but I don't think it is law and deals more with expulsion and such.
I read a UMCP newspaper article (I think it was the Diamondback) about stun guns carried by students on campus and the impression I got was that there is no weapon's policy on campus beyond what is in state law.

 

[JAMES77257]

My reason was that it's my 2nd ammendment right. It worked.

 

[Caimlas]

Sniper,

You're dreaming; sorry.

#1) Short of being a LEO yourself, you're not likely to get a CCW in MD any more likely than in DC, San Fran, or NYC.
#2) You're going for medical school; aside from the state ban, most medical facilities and universities both ban firearms from their premises entirely. I've yet to see one that doesn't; usually there's a state law saying "no firearms" on such premises, either.

Even if you were a stunningly beautiful 6' blonde woman who had alergic reactions to all clothing, and were required to give out-patient treatment for recovering rapists, you'd likely still not have a good enough reason for the state. I mean, you're a 'civilian'! Only trained 'professionals' should be allowed around guns!

 

[CountGlockula]

Just chill man.

Sniper, you kinda sound like a gun-toting-happy-go-lucky-want a CCL to save the world from bad guys-emotionally frustrated-vigilante. Just relax. In your current situation: Living in MD, going to school (therefore no profession) and young...shows a lot of angst against the non shall issue state.

Unless you want to become a cop, then it'll be a guarantee you get a concealed carry weapons permit. For now, focus on your school work and take some handgun self-defense classes.

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I just want you to drink the REALITY kool-aid. It is what it is.

I live in CA, so your not alone in your pursuit of obtaining a permit. It all depends on the "special circumstance" that your in.

 

[FourTeeFive]

"for all lawful purposes" works in a number of other states.

 

[springmom]

Sniper, get a job that has you making deposits for your employer. That's actually a fairly common responsibility in small businesses...but you'd need a pro-2A employer to provide all that documentation. Still, that sounds like the easiest legal recourse.

Good luck. (Or you could come to the University of Texas. Warmer, and more pro-2A by a long shot).


Springmom