Need a recommendation for the girl friend....

Status
Not open for further replies.

noob_shooter

member
Joined
Feb 8, 2009
Messages
348
CCW just recently passed in WI. I have an XD9 and G19. Girl friend absolutely struggles to rack slide. Won't work for her.

What other hand guns would be easy for her to use? I would really hate going with revolvers(She hates it).

22LR? 22WMR. Thinking about Keltec PMR30, but that thing seems a bit long.

Any recommendations?
 
Don't give up

CorneredCat.com site written by an experienced woman shootist. Well worth the reading for both male and female.

Absent severe medical conditions, racking a slide is simply a matter of good technique.

Lost Sheep
 
thanks.. i showed her the correct way to rack it, but still struggles. Maybe she's not using the right muscles. I also showed her how to correctly draw a 30lb bow, she couldn't. She's a strong woman for her size. Handles the G27 like me... just can't rack the slide..LOL!

will show her again..


oh wells, nevermind about the pmr30. that things seems to be a jam-omatic.
 
Last edited:
Well... she needs to practice until she gets it. No two ways about it. Also, there's no single way to correctly operate the slide. If you are teaching her to slingshot it (or treat it like a bow), yeah, for a lady without practice or strength, that can be very difficult. Some guys as beginners can't slingshot the slide. If she can't cup her support hand over the back of the slide getting as much skin on the slide as possible to help support her finger grip, push the gun forward, then using a criss-cross motion, push the slide in the opposite direction, than she's got some strengthening to do.

Your girlfriend may vary, but my petite wife with gentle, soft hands can operate the slide using the method I described above with good consistency.
 
Last edited:
Millennium Pro

Wander by a well-stocked gun shop or sporting goods store and have her try a few.

In particular, my wife (who is not particularly strong) can work the slide on the Taurus Millennium Pro PT111 (compact 9mm).

She was worried at one point about using "too much force" or having the slide "slam" shut.

I pointed out that in actual operation, the slide is being slammed harder and faster than anything she can do with her hands. No problem with that slide.

There are some pistols out there that are just tight as heck. And then there are some that aren't.

Have her try several.

 
Look into some of the subcompact .380s and 9x19s. The Ruger LCP has a very easy slide to rack and the pull isn't too long.

You should also definitely look into a CZ-82 or 83 for her. They're amazing pistols and they're very resonably priced. They shoot the 9x18mm Makarov round which is plentiful and cheap (around $11 for a box of 50 JHPs). They're very robust and safe autoloaders with chrome lined polygonally rifled barrels for longevity. Also very easy to operate/rack the slide. They hold 12+1 rounds and they're a smidge more potent than an.380ACP but not quite as powerful as the 9mm luger. Last i checked they're around $210 plus transfer fee.

PS the CZ-82 is chambered in 9mm Makarov and the CZ-83 is chambered in .380 ACP. Price wise they are comparable.
 
Womens fingers can't allways slingshot a slide. Who still slingshots anyways?

Did you have her overhand rack it?
Thumb and index finger pointed to chest?

Doing it that way increases strength and grip. You fingers are in compression instead of tension, and your grip is aided by the angle of your hand much like using a chair to block a door closed.
 
I like instructions but nothing beats a great video. My Fiance didn't like it either but I showed her this video to her several times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=300ahac-jFU

Basically work on her getting a good grip on the slide. From there explain she can't hurt it so be brutal with it. If you hold the slide with one hand and punch with the other (strong push forward) it's hard to not rack any slide. It's in the grip and forward extension of the elbow doing work. She gets it everytime now and we just got her second semi.
 
Take her to a range that has a bunch of different guns available to rent, and let her decide.
 
I like instructions but nothing beats a great video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=300ahac-jFU


I think what she says at the beginning is probably true. Sometimes people get something in their mind that they can't do something and they are afraid to try, so they don't put all their effort into it.

I'd certainly say that the spring on my Glock 19 feels pretty weak compared to the spring on my FNP-40, so those 9mms and .380s are probably a good way to go.

I tried a .50 AE Desert Eagle at my LGS, considering it has probably only been fired once or twice at the factory, that thing was a DUDE to rack. I believe many women wouldn't be able to rack that sucker.

For some reason I still slingshot on my first round, when I insert a mag with the slide closed. After that when I insert a new mag with the action locked back I will use the overhand cup method. Old habits die hard I guess.
 
If she holds it in front of her pointed to the ground, arms extended and punching to the ground she will get it. Takes practice!
 
One way my tiny wife can operate the slide on some of "our" pistols is this: holding the pistol in her strong hand, point gun down and across her body about waist high (muzzle in safe direction, FINGER OFF TRIGGER), with other hand grasp slide over top by rear cocking serations, PUSH with both hands, as soon as slide stops completely release grip on slide (do not hold on to slide when it is moving into battery). This way will keep the pistol closer to the body and bring more muscle mass into play. It is all about leverage.
Pistols with heavier slides tend to have lower weight recoil springs, my 9mm 1911s are easier to pull back the slide than my other 9mm pistols like Glock G17, Beretta 92FS, CZ PCR. Perhaps a 9mm commander sized 1911 would be a good choice. A .380acp pistol like the SIG P238, became my wifes go to pistol (bought it for my self), when se saw how easy it was to operate the slide and how little recoil it has compared to similar size and caliber pistols, It is SA only and has to be carried cocked and locked, but she is used to it because her other pistol is a Beretta 950 Jetfire .25acp SAO. She usually cocks the hammer then pulls the slide back, that way she is pulling only on the recoil spring, and not the hammer spring too.
 
Classes

Find a class with female instructors in your area or close by and pay for her to attend a class. One that is preferably all female students.

Let her find the perfect handgun for her. Walther should be one brand she considers.

A guy if he knows what he is doing should never influence his girlfriend's or SO's purchase of a car, boat, airplane or firearms. You can't win.
 
I would really hate going with revolvers(She hates it).

Why does she hate revolvers???

Other than revolvers something like the Beretta tomcat/bobcat or a derringer are about the viable solutions if she cannot operate a slide...
 
Walther PK380 was my girlfriend's first handgun, the slide is the easiest I have seen.
 
x3 on the PK380. easiest slide to rack of any pistol i have ever handled. i think an 85lb arthritic 90 year old woman could do it without issue.
 
A Glock, if anything, should be easier to jack the slide on than some other pistols. And if someone truly lacks the hand/finger strength to rack a slide (barring a medical condition), they will likely have trouble with a revolver's 10-12 lb. trigger pull.
 
I personally can't stand using a revolver over a semi-auto, but if she can't rack the slide on a semi-auto, it might be worth the try. My Mom prefers the revolver to the semi-auto, and I think a big reason is that she has trouble racking the slide.
 
My wife will not fire any semiauto pistol she has a definate fear of the slide coming back and striking her hand. She has no problem pulling it back she just doesnt like it coming back on its own. It is strictly revolvers for her she would not trade her model 66 Smith for a crate of autoloaders. It is all about what someone is comfortable with and confident in. Take her to a range that has rental and let her choose a gun that works for her. Then comes the fun part practice and more practice.
T
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top