need advice on carrying on military base

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I'm headed down to Fort ripley MN for an excersise with the CAP http://www.cap.gov/ and although we arent allowed to carry in uniform i have a ways to travel to get there and once there will be staying on the base for a week and want to have my gun with me during the trip. Anyone know how this works?

Btw i checked packing.org and didnt find anything on it.
 
ive never been in the military so take what i say with a big grain of salt.

can you get a letter from your C/O authorizing it?
 
If you're not active duty military, I wouldn't think there would be any way whatsoever for you to take your personal weapon on post. And even if you were active, I don't think you can take a weapon on post unless you live on *that* base, and then you have to leave it with your unit armory.

Remember, what your CO says doesn't necessarily matter to the CG of another post.


Edit: I've been out for some time, but I work as a civilian contractor on an AFB, and there's absolutely no way for me to take a weapon on post. Ever.
 
1. You cannot carry a privately owned firearm on a military base.
2. You may, depending on branch of service and individual base regulations, be allowed to declare your unloaded, locked and cased handgun at the gate and turn it in for safekeeping at the base security department or armory. You will then have to check it out every time you leave the base and reenter (usually during 0600-1600 working hours only, M-F).
3. You will not be allowed to keep a privately owned weapon in transient/visiting/bachelor quarters.
4. Having worked in physical security/law enforcement for several years, I don't even bother taking a personal weapon with me on any temporary assignments if I have to stay in onbase quarters (off base in a hotel/motel, yeah, I'll pack my own handgun, but it'll stay in the safe in my room and I'll not be taking it on base in my POV or rental car).
5. As Vernal45 says, don't! Not worth the bother ...
 
My understanding was that the base commander can authorize you to carry, but such authorization has to be written. I seriously doubt any such authorization would be easy to get.
 
Old Dog nailed it word for word.

I have been TDY to several different bases and they are all the same.

On one TDY I went to Lackland AFB with an AR-15, shotgun, 1911 and S&W 1006 10MM. When I walked into the armory to check in the weapons I ended up with 7 SP's wanting to see what all I had. :D
 
Federal law grants the base commander the power and authority to determine who can carry firearms on base. If you are caught with an unauthorized firearm on a military installation, at the very least you will be cited to appear before a U.S. Magistrate to answer for your "crime". On the other exteme, you will be treated as a terrorist and the U.S. Attorney will do his or her best to send you to a federal prison for a very, very long time.

Pilgrim
 
as Pilgrim says "at the very least" ... and not to mention that you will also lose that firearm -- forever. I know; I've had to confiscate more than I care to remember ...
 
Well "mark the tapes" because this may be the only time Vernal and I agree on anything.
 
....and don't try to "sneak it in" as most bases (I know ours does) do random vehicle searches at the Entry Control Points (incoming and exiting), and sweeps with K-9s in the parking lots.
 
I recall being able to possess private firearms while on a military base (Fort Lewis, WA) when I was active duty, but we were never allowed to carry, even with a civilian CCW (the Big Scary Sign[tm] outside the base said so).

My Ruger 10/22 is in a federal database somewhere, as I had to register it with the Provost Marshal when I brought it on base the first time. I was allowed to keep it in my car during transport on/off base or to/from a range (they had a nice 300yd range on base, $3/all day), etc., but it had to be stored in the unit armory.

Unfortunately, the armory was closed on the weekend (when the range was open), so I just kept it at a storage facility located right off-base that was owned and operated by an old Vietnam vet who flew medevac helicopters. Good guy, good facility, even helped me when someone else assaulted me and spit in my face (he has lots of cameras; ask me about the assault bit later), and I trusted him and his facility to store my firearms. That, and the Armageddon-proof Lock[tm] I had on the door. :D

As for random vehicle inspections, I drove a U-Haul truck through the gate at Fort Lewis without even showing ID. No vehicle stickers, no ID check (every other time I entered they checked, this time they just waved me through), no inspection, etc. Still, having an empty U-Haul truck is not a crime. Having an unauthorized weapon on a military base is.
 
Do not discount the random checks at the base entrance.

Last year my new wife and I found ourselves in Maryland, just a few miles from Edgewood Arsenal, where I was stationed for awhile back in the 60's. So I thought it would be interesting to stop by the post and see if I recognized anything.

"Interesting" was indeed the operative term. Edgewood used to be an "open" post. Still is, technically. But these days, "open" means if you don't have a base parking sticker you line up behind approximately 67 other cars, creep up to the impound area adjacent to the guard shack, pull over into the lot when they wave you in, shut off the engine, open all the doors and the cargo area hatch, AND THE HOOD, then stand back while they have their way with any damn thing at all you happen to have in your vehicle. Then after they pass a mirror under the chassis they allow you to reenter the vehicle and proceed.

After all that, I found they had long since torn down all the WW2-ear barracks I lived in and there wasn't a single thing on post I recognized.
 
I dont want to carry it on base. I just want to store it in my trunk until i leave.

I dont think i will take it with though.

I guess i asked the question oddly. What i meant was " i want to carry to the base, then store it in my trunk until i leave, is this possible" it seems the answer is no though.
 
Even if it's kept in your trunk it's a no go to take on base, unless you are stationed there, and taking it directly to the armory for storage. The one other exception is some bases will allow military members to store firearms in their base housing. Housing, NOT dorms or billetting.
 
I guess i asked the question oddly. What i meant was " i want to carry to the base, then store it in my trunk until i leave, is this possible" it seems the answer is no though.
Correct.

NO is the answer. If you want to take it, maybe you can use the Internet to find a friendly gun shop near the post that would allow you to store it there. Ain't no way you're going to keep it in the trunk of your car on post.
 
Camp Ripley used to rent SOT Corporation ranges to train police on. I went up there with him many times to help with the training. Tim Webber, Emil Praslick, and myself all had to become POST certified/NRA instructors in order to use/rent the ranges. Tim was not a LEO at the time, and he carried with a Minnesota permit all the time. The police (Goodhue county, Moose Lake prison guards, Hennepin County, St Paul CIRT team etc....) all brought personal weapons onto the base for the training.

Granted, it was several years ago, but you might want to look into it before writing it off as impossible.
 
C'mon, W.A.

Sitting in front of an Internet- connected PC, and asking questions you just know the answer to is out there on the web somewhere? You can do better than that...

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http://www.dma.state.mn.us/cpripley/ops/reg1.htm#TABLE_OF_CONTENTS5

6-6 Weapons, Ammunition and Explosives

a. Firearms, including pellet guns, blow guns, and crossbows shall not be transported or possessed upon Camp Ripley, unless specifically authorized in writing by the Adjutant General or Post Commander. This regulation does not apply to military weapons when used for authorized training purposes or firearms authorized for use in training by the department of a licensed peace officer. Additionally, Paragraph 9-4 of this regulation grants a specific exception during the hunting season.

(1) Requests for permission to bring personal weapons onto the installation will be addressed through the unit commander to the Chief of Security and will state the purpose for the request and will include the make, model and serial number(s) of the weapon(s) involved.

(2) Any weapons found on Camp Ripley without authorization will be confiscated by Military Police pending further action by the Post Commander and civilian authorities.

(3) Licensed peace officers not in an official department capacity will not carry personal or department firearms while on Camp Ripley unless authorized in writing by the Chief of Security.

(4) Licensed peace officer are authorized to carry their official sidearm on Camp Ripley in accordance with their applicable department guidelines.

b. Weapons or knives, of any type, with a blade in excess of 4-1/2 inches are not allowed into the Community Club, Alternative Center, Post Exchange or any other Army, Air Force Exchange Service Facility.

c. Ammunition, explosives and other related pyrotechnics will not be in the possession of any individual except as authorized for training purposes on ranges or in the training area. At no time will ammunition, explosives or other pyrotechnics be transported in any civilian vehicles with the exception of authorized marksmanship weapons.

(1) Small arms ammunition and pyrotechnics may be stored in the Cantonment Area if sufficient security measures are taken in accordance with Physical Security of Arms, Ammunition, and Explosives, Army Regulation 190-11. Other ammunition will not be stored within the Cantonment Area. Storage requirements may be coordinated with the Camp Ripley Ammunition Office at (320) 632-7338.

(2) Explosives or pyrotechnics will not be used in the Cantonment Area without approval of the Chief of Security. Limited use of small arms blank ammunition and pyrotechnics may be authorized for specific training events. Contact the Chief of Security at (320) 632-7339 to request authorization in advance of the planned event.

(3) Safety measures for the use of ammunition, explosives and pyrotechnics are contained within the Range Regulation.
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What OLD DOG SAID

It is what OLD DOG Said!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!! Don't even bother, and being that you will have a sticker on you car that shows you are not from that bases they WILL INSPECT when they want and if you get had you will not like the results. When you trave to the base carry but put it in a safe place for while you are on base. Maybe some gun shop will hold it for you while you work and out can get it from them when you are off duty.
 
i know it lee, but i have a 56k net connection and not much patience.


the town of fort ripley must have a police department. i wonder if they would store it for me.
 
Even if it's kept in your trunk it's a no go to take on base, unless you are stationed there, and taking it directly to the armory for storage. The one other exception is some bases will allow military members to store firearms in their base housing. Housing, NOT dorms or billetting.

DMF, we do agree.

Even if you are taking it to your on post residence, you will need orders from your CO granting you premission, if you dont have those, trouble WILL find you if you are stopped and the weapon is found. Also, trips to and from the armory with the weapon, make sure its to and from, not stop of for a burger in between.

DMF, maybe this is a start for us to agree more, who knows, a buttload of quakes in cali, Frist and Hillary working together, strange things happening. :what:
 
No worries, WA, just pickin'. I only have dialup too, from here in East Podunk, NC, and most of the time it runs at 40k or less.

Difference is, I retired after nearly thirty years as a reference librarian, the last 20- odd of it for Uncle Sam. I've been digging for answers on the Internet since before there was even a WWW... doesn't take much patience if you do the digging fast. 8^)

Enjoy the training, hope you find a safe place to stash your hardware in town, definitely don't haul it onto the installation. You might try one of the pawn shops in town, sometimes they can be helpful.

lpl/nc
 
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