need advice on trade for 1911

make the trade?

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    Votes: 14 31.8%

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    Votes: 30 68.2%
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JEB

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i need yall's opinion on a trade.

i have been in the market for a 1911 for some time now and just happened along one that i liked today. it is an all stainless springfield 1911A1 serial # NM164595, 5" barrel, plain fixed sights. only down sides i found on it was a little bit of wear on the sights and an idiot scratch on the frame (wich really dosent bother me that much as i would probably end up doing it myself eventually). also included is two flush fitting magazines (im guessing 7 round), an attachable compensator (which he told me was valued at about $100), a new case, and a box of ammo. the seller is at $950 firm. this would be my first 1911.

i would be trading in my stock gen3 glock 27 which he offered to give me $500 in trade (not bad since i only paid $480 for it 3 years ago). i started off with a couple differnt glocks and just dont like them any more. i will be keeping my G22 (my first handgun) which i shoot competitivly. but my 27 just does not fit me right. it gets carried a little and shot almost never.

i would have made the trade today, but i just dont know enough about springfields, or 1911s in general to just jump into it. if there is any other information yall need just ask and i will let you know what i can.

please vote and give opinions!
 
Even if that's a Loaded model that's too much IMO. You can get a new Loaded if you look and am not in a hurry for around $750. Gary at randgfirearms.com is selling a custom Colt by Austin Behlert(one of the great custom masters) His starting bid is $1149 and I'll bet he would sell it for that if you asked him.
 
Perhaps one of the most difficult things to overcome is the urge to purchase a gun you find after you've been looking for that particular one for a while.

My opinion is NOT to make this trade. I would not spend that kind of money on a used 1911.

A box of ammo I could buy for 15 to 20 bucks, a new case I could buy for the same amount, and a $100 compensator I'd have no use for would do nothing to sweeten the deal for me, either. In fact, he could keep all that and drop the price of the pistol down $150 to about $800 and then my interest would perk up.

However, there is a lot to be said for individual preferences. Ultimately, if YOU would be happy spending that kind of money, even with a trade, because YOU would be happy to have THAT particular gun as a result, then it's a good deal for you and more power to you.

If what you want is a 1911, then I'd urge you to take a good look around, both in gun & pawn shops and online. And consider a 1991A1 as well. They are cheaper, and as a Colt they carry the full reputation of Colt with them. (Not that I think Springfield isn't any good...they've made great guns for a looooong time.) I've had my 1991A1 for a couple decades now, I think it's an awesome pistol for what I use it for: target shooting and concealed carry. It's parkerized, though...not stainless.

As for the trade in value for your Glock 27 gen 3, I did a little surfing through gunbroker.com and it seems that he's giving you a pretty fair trade value for it. So that tells me he's at least up front about that. But it also tells me that he's going to have to mark it up a wee bit in order to make a profit himself...which means he's going to sell it at a pretty high price compared to others I've seen on gunbroker...meaning he's likely had to do the same for the 1911 you want.

I'd hold off and shop around, but like I said before...it's YOUR opinion that counts here.

:):)
 
Agreed, far too steep on price. If you have no need of your Glock, sell it and consider with a nod toward your intended purposes what might better suit you.

If you'd like a nice inexpensive 1911 a Colt 1991 would make an excellent beginner, especially if a custom touch or two is desired. If you prefer a 1911 that is updated a bit from the factory consider the STI Spartan or Trojan.
 
A box of ammo I could buy for 15 to 20 bucks, a new case I could buy for the same amount, and a $100 compensator I'd have no use for would do nothing to sweeten the deal for me, either.
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kinda my thoughts too. the compensator...i dont know if i would ever really use it.

as for the price, im really on the fence. i just dont ever use my G27 and with the trade, i would only have to come up with $450; more than i really want to but at the same time, it dosent seem too bad.

can anyone tell exactly what model it is from the serial#?
 
for all those suggesting a colt; i am sure they are nice, but i have never even seen one, never mind finding one for sale that i could actually afford. kimber, springfield, S&W, taurus, i can find to some extent. because of all this, colt really isnt on my radar, so to speek.
 
It sounds like what he's got is a Springfield Mil-Spec in stainless. MSRP on that gun, new, is $843, and they can be had for less. The magazines and case come with the gun. A box of ammo is $20. I don't know what compensator is worth, but if you won't use it, it isn't worth anything to you.

If you can sell the G27 for the same $500 he's offering as a trade value, you only have to come up with about $350 cash, maybe less, to buy the same 1911 new that he's offering used.

Bad trade for you. Don't do it.
 
There are deals out there if you look for them and you're not in a hurry. I picked up a used satin nickel Colt series 70 at a gunshop in Reno for $640 a couple of months ago. I wasn't looking for another gun, but I couldn't pass it up.
 
I have had that particular 1911 before. It is a great gun but no where near worth $900, if he was willing to come down to $700 for that trade, than it would be more reasonable. I honestly wouldn't give him more than $150 if it were me. You can get one brand new for $800 easily
 
im almost positive it is not a mil spec. it has the sceletonized trigger and hammer, combat style sights, and forward cocking serreations. i think it may be the "loaded model, but im just not sure.
 
MSRP on a stainless Loaded is $1039. Again, they can be had for less. Ask if he wants to keep his compensator and knock off $100. Assuming the pistol is in good shape and hasn't been subjected to some amateur gunsmithing (which it might have been, given the presence of a compensator) you might have something there.

But here's some unsolicited advice from a happy Springfield customer: if you like the features of the Loaded model, look at the Ruger SR1911. It has pretty much the same features as the Loaded but costs a lot less. It sort of sounds like you might want to do a little more research and figure out what you really want in a 1911 before buying.
 
But here's some unsolicited advice from a happy Springfield customer: if you like the features of the Loaded model, look at the Ruger SR1911. It has pretty much the same features as the Loaded but costs a lot less. It sort of sounds like you might want to do a little more research and figure out what you really want in a 1911 before buying.
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the ruger would actually be my first choice by far but God only knows when i will actually find one.
 
I think as much as he is giving you for the glock it would be an ok deal...not a steal but not bad...i would say 850 for the 1911 would be fair but i would say 400 is fair on the glock so either way the glock plus 450
 
I think as much as he is giving you for the glock it would be an ok deal...not a steal but not bad...i would say 850 for the 1911 would be fair but i would say 400 is fair on the glock so either way the glock plus 450
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kinda what i was thinking.

JEB the ruger is a sweet shooting gun....very accurate and easy to control...well worth the wait
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so i have heard. arghhhh. decisions decisions....
 
Lots of SR1911s on Gunbroker right now. Might be a little scarce at dealers in rural Iowa but not that hard to find, with a little patience.
 
Last i checked the ones on gunbroker were 200 over priced...my brother was on a waiting list for a month he paid 670 after taxes and everything
 
Didn't notice the location, JEB. Cedar Rapids has a show coming up Sept. 7-9th which would give you a chance to actually look over a few brands. That would give you time to:

Research brands and models.
Sell your Glock and save extra funds.
Set a price on your Glock and see what it trades for at the show.

You could also consider an online trade at Bud's or other reputable outlets.
 
"the ruger would actually be my first choice by far but God only knows when i will actually find one."

Heh! Patience is the hallmark of success when gun shopping. Keep in mind that you already have a few guns, so it's not as if you're hurting for another one out of some need. Think of it like car shopping: there is a big difference between shopping for a car when you already have one that's perfectly good and shopping for a car when the only one you have just dropped its transmission in the middle of the interstate.

One scenario you are in full control of all aspects of shopping and buying because you can afford to pick and choose what, when, and how much. The other scenario, you're behind the 8-ball because you NEED a car NOW. Salesmen know this...and a lot of them invest time and tactics into convincing their customers that they "need" to purchase "now"...and on their terms. It's subliminal, with the good salesmen...you won't even realize it unless you're looking for it.

You are in a position to control all the shots. Don't allow yourself to fall into thinking otherwise. You can walk away from ANY deal, and that gives you power. Use it to your advantage.

As for thinking that you "only have to come up with $450", this is a false sense of financial transactions. You will come up with $950 for this guy...you're just paying $500 of it with your Glock 27.

Another thing to think about here...this guy will actually be getting more like $1150 or more from you for that gun. Why? Because he isn't going to sell your Glock for the $500 value he got for it from you. He's going to mark it up a couple hundred, give or take, when he turns around and sells it. So, from his perspective, this is exactly the same thing as you paying him $1150 for the Springfield.

So he's getting a darned good deal from you on this, if you go through with it.

I've no problem with people making profits...but any time I get into a situation where I get any feeling at all that either the guy is 'strong-arming" me into a sale, or that the deal is boarderline and I don't know if I should walk away, I start thinking about things from the perspective of the salesman.

He wants to make a profit. You want a decent deal. The two should balance fairly, in my opinion.

:):)
 
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hes real high on that and high on what he will give you on trade in. That loaded gun can be had as stated by others for about 7-800 dollars. Wait on a better deal!
 
If your Glock has proven reliable and you can make hits with it, there's no way in hell I'd get rid of it for an idiot scratched 1911 with an unknown history, especially if you have to add $450 to the trade.

Personally, I think the SIG 1911s are a better value anyways, even with the odd slide, external extractor and a Series 80 FPS. If the slide bothers you too much, they make a Traditional styled gun too.
 
thanks for all the comments everyone. i really wasnt sure if this was a good deal or not, but it is looking like it is not. this is exactly why i held off and deferred to the knowledge of THR. i think im gonna let this one pass.

RetiredUSNChief,
very good advice. thanks.
 
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