Need Help Identifying Remington 700

[EchoM70]

Hi all,

Just got a trade offer on one of my guns... It's a Remington 700 with a custom looking wood stock. I think it's an ADL but not sure. I'm not sure if it's factory work or aftermarket stuff. I've been trying to find another like it but I've came up empty.

Here's the rifle:

It's drop dead gorgeous and I'm interested I'm just not sure what I'm looking at. As always, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

 

[allaroundhunter]

What are you looking to trade for it?

The presence of the fitted Remington recoil pad makes me think that it is factory work. It strongly resembles a 700 BDL 50th anniversary edition, but I can't see the full stock, nor if it has iron sights.

What caliber is it?


ETA: I got so caught up looking at the stock but I completely disregarded looking for a DM/floorplate....as usual, rc is right.

 

[rcmodel]

It's not a BDL because it doesn't have a hinged floor plate.

The ADL had the blind magazine like that one.

But it looks too pretty for an ADL too.

rc

 

[EchoM70]

I've got a Model 70 XTR Sporter in 7mm Mag that the guy is interested in.

This one:

It's an ADL, the guy just messaged me and basically said it was an ADL in .243 Win he bought for his wife and she didn't like it. He bought it brand new, still had the box. Asked him if it was a special edition or something and still waiting on him... not sure if he really knows himself.

Think it's a fair trade?

 

[allaroundhunter]

As far as value goes, it is close.

There are uses for a 7mag that a .243 cannot fill and vice versa.

Are you looking for a hunting rifle? Safe queen? Range gun?

 

[jmr40]

That looks like a brand new ADL. It has cheap birch wood with a plastic trigger guard. While it has an interesting look to the wood it is a cheap piece of wood.

I wouldn't trade unless he were giving me the Remington and $400 or so.

 

[EchoM70]

Are you looking for a hunting rifle? Safe queen? Range gun?

Well, I frequent a local trading website and just put this one up just to see what offers I get and if anything catches my interest I'll jump on it... It'll probably see some hunting, some range work or whatever. Don't really have a need or purpose for it that my other rifles can't fill, same can be said about the 7 mag. It just caught my eye and I've never seen anything like it before.

That looks like a brand new ADL. It has cheap birch wood with a plastic trigger guard. While it has an interesting look to the wood it is a cheap piece of wood.

How long has the ADL's been out of production? I'm not really a Remington guy so I don't keep up on the new stuff.

Also, how are you so sure it's cheap birch? I've never seen a factory Remington ADL with that checkering pattern nor wood like that... Can't find anything online about it either.

 

[jmr40]

The ADL's never really went out of production. They no longer catalog them, but have made special runs for big box stores such as Walmart all along. I'm certain it is birch and almost certain it has the cheap reverse stamped checkering. It is the same wood used on the Express shotguns, Ruger standard 10-22's and Mossberg's budget 500's. Most birch is rather plain, but you occasionally run across a piece that has some interesting pattern to it. I cannot see the metal, but it appears to be the same matte blue used on the Express shotguns and SPS rifles.

It is a functional budget rifle. It looks a little nicer than most, but it's real vaue is no more than the same gun with a cheap plastic stock.

Your Winchester is an older top of the line XTR model with polished metal and walnut stock that appears to be in excellent condition. It is worth far more.

You won't find much on this rifle, because it is so new that only a few have been made and it is a non cataloged gun probably made for a specific retailer. I'm seeing similar wood and checkering on the new Remington made Marlins. I would expect to see more soon.

 

[Patocazador]

Is that cut or stamped checkering?
Stamped checkering is the norm for ADLs but the stock could be tiger maple. If it's cut checkering, it's possibly a product of Remington's custom shop (if it still exists). Remington has gone downhill so fast in the last couple of years that I don't know anything about them anymore.

 

[EchoM70]

The ADL's never really went out of production. They no longer catalog them, but have made special runs for big box stores such as Walmart all along. I'm certain it is birch and almost certain it has the cheap reverse stamped checkering. It is the same wood used on the Express shotguns, Ruger standard 10-22's and Mossberg's budget 500's. Most birch is rather plain, but you occasionally run across a piece that has some interesting pattern to it. I cannot see the metal, but it appears to be the same matte blue used on the Express shotguns and SPS rifles.

It is a functional budget rifle. It looks a little nicer than most, but it's real vaue is no more than the same gun with a cheap plastic stock.

Your Winchester is an older top of the line XTR model with polished metal and walnut stock that appears to be in excellent condition. It is worth far more.

You won't find much on this rifle, because it is so new that only a few have been made and it is a non cataloged gun probably made for a specific retailer. I'm seeing similar wood and checkering on the new Remington made Marlins. I would expect to see more soon.

Thanks for clearing some things up jmr40, I've never really known too much about Remington's line of rifles. Most of the time they don't interest me. The only exception being older BDL's. I might have thought this one was something special but now obviously it isn't.

What type of value would you put on my Model 70 XTR? I've been told somewhere around $650, but I'm not entirely sure. It doesn't have a single ding, dent nor scratch on it anywhere, plus it's only been shot 12 times. The guy I got it from never shot it, he gave me the box/docs too and I shot it enough to sight it in and go for a group or two. Most of the time when you mention push-feed Winchester most people lose interest quick. I'm not entirely wanting to get rid of it (It's easily a sub-MOA rifle), just testing the waters out so to speak.

 

[tahunua001]

I agree it is the ADL, the dead give away is the lack of a floor plate. BDLs and CDLs have hinged, exposed floor plates while the ADL has to be removed from the stock to access the magazine. the bluing looks like it is in great condition and that is not a remington factory stock unless it came from the customs dept. definitely tiger maple, not birch. tiger maple is very popular with custom guitars due to the decorative lines and the checkering is not the standard angled diamonds. I would say that a new-ish walmart special ADL for $400 plus a $200-ish custom stock in unfired(outside of test firing) condition would be worth around $500 trade in or so. I would say that you would be getting the better end of the stick on that trade. I inherited my dads 243 ADL and it is the one rifle that I guarantee is never leaving my collection.

 

[jmr40]

I have a masters degree in Industrial Arts and taught wood working for 30 years. That is a better than average piece of birch, but it is birch.

Check out the new checkering and stock style on this new Remington.

http://remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-bdl-anniversary.aspx

Same exact style, except this is real walnut.

This is apparently a new stock style for Remington. It could be produced in a budget gun with cheap wood or on a deluxe model with better wood using the same machinery.

The value of the Winchester is hard to guage. In that condition $650 would not be unreasonable. You might not get that much because the new production guns with CRF are much more desierable to most and they don't sell for much more than that. 7mm Magnums are not hot sellers right now either. Absolutely nothing wrong with the Winchester though. I just wouldn't consider trading it for this particular Remington.

 

[TonyAngel]

If you like the way it looks, maybe it's worth it to you; but we generally look for ADLs on the used market as an inexpensive way to get into a donor action for a semi custom build.

 

[unwise11]

Keep your 70... I'm a 700 guy and I would rather have you rifle all day, much better..