Need help on "Hoop Jumping" (gun laws in your state)

[Oatka]

A few days ago there was a report in an Illinois newspaper about Chicago wanting to fingerprint and otherwise identify newspaper reporters "for security reasons" (Is the "reporter" for real or a terrorist - at a police station, etc.)

City Hall to require journalists' fingerprints
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/934127/posts

Evidently, besides myself, other gun owners wrote the reporter and made the comparison between attacks on us and reporters via incremental restrictive laws. (Los Angeles fingerprints AND makes them pay a $50 fee.)

I mentioned how gun owners had to jump through numerous hoops due to these one-step-at-a-time laws and it appears the same is now happening to members of the Fourth Estate. A "How does it feel?" scenario.

The reporter replied: "We've received several letters from the pro-gun folks. I might be writing a followup article about the reaction. Would you like to be included in the article? If so, could you tell me where you live and give examples of the gun-control hoops you mention?"

I plan to mention the following:
CA - no pistol grip, bayonet lug or thumbhole stock on an AW
US - no pistol mags over 10-round capacity, except for the police (a seperate "elite" them/us thread I'll introduce).
IL- FOID card
Which states have a one gun a month policy?
Which states have a x-day waiting period?

Please give a state and some petty restriction on owning/buying/shooting a firearm. I'm looking for the crappy little laws as mentioned above.

Thanks in advance.

 

[geekWithA.45]

The Dark and Fascist State of New Jersey:

FID (similiar to a FOID) Theoretically 30 days to obtain, in reality 3 months to a year. Fingerprints, background check, criminal check, sanity check (@ the state nuthatches)

Pistol Purchase Permit: Same as above for first one, 2 weeks to 2 months for subsequent permits, good for 90 days.

Recourse for delayed permits: NONE. The corrupt (imo) NJ supremes won't budge, sighting "the interest of society".

Recourse for denied permits: Lengthy/expensive process.

NICS: You still have to pass NICS, NJ is a POC for NICS, and has more restrictive hours than the national system, plus a fee.

Carry Permit: Heavily restricted for work only/armed guards, less than 2000 exist in the state. 700 or so exist that are not work related. We estimate 1.4 million gunowners in a total population of 8+ million.

Allegedly, the automatic rejection of your initial carry permit becomes the justification for subsequent automatic rejections for carry permits, plus an obstruction in other states, hence a dearth of people willing to try. We're (njcsd) looking into these allegations.

Transportation: Unloaded, cased, in the trunk, you have to go directly to or from one of the authorized locations, no stops that aren't "reasonable and necessary", so forget the milk your wife asked you to pick up on the way home.

Smart Guns: When they are found to exist by the AG, they will be the only handguns available for purchase or transfer.

Self Defense: No hollowpoints, (except @ home), you MUST retreat, even in your own home, till your back is against the wall

"Assault Weapons" A laundry list (upon which the federal AWB is based) of named firearms are forbidden, or those found to be "substantially similiar". Judicial rulings indicate that any post ban that meets federal requirements is OK. NJ passed their AWB in 1990, and the feds in 1994, so that means that for 4 years, NJ folks were SOL till the national ban created enough demand for PC rifles.

Full Capacity Magazines: No magazine, pre or post ban, including LEO may contain more than 15 rounds in NJ. This actually made a certain model Glock illegal until the federal mag limits kicked in, and 10 rounders were made available by Glock. Temporarily blocked mags are OK.

BB Guns: Are considered full fledged firearms under NJ law.



You need a FID + pistol purchase permit to get the most innocuous BB pistol in this state.

Mace: must be smaller than 3/4 ounce, not manufactured until recently.

Electrical Stunners: Illegal

Slingshots: Illegal

Safe Storage: It's illegal to leave a loaded firearm (which includes bb guns) within "easy access" of a minor.

Temporary Transfer: There are no provisions to allow your spouse to temporarily posess your handgun in your own home, say, while fending off a rapist. If she were attacked at a range, however, that'd be OK.


Violations of any of the above are Crimes of at least the 4th degree and higher (NJ's version of felony...just about everything in NJ is a felony, btw)

Life in Jail Anyone? Yep, you get LIFE IN JAIL, plus 1/2 million dollar fine, if it is found that you "excersise authority over someone" and there is an "invalid transfer of firearms", involved, for being a "Firearms Trafficking Kingpin". So, if you instruct your son to sell your duck gun, and he screws up the paperwork, you could spend the rest of your miserable life as Bubbas wife in one of NJ's finest long term detention centers.

 

[M67]

Just a few thoughts from a foreigner. I have to jump through a number of hoops too, with some similarities to NJ, but the particulars are not really relevant to you, I guess.

I thought more about the angle. I would play down the bayonet lug and magazine restrictions. Yes, you and I know that's stupid, but to a lot of reporters it is "common sense" and they have absolutely no idea what a bayonet lug is anyway. Try to find silly legislation that will be clearly stupid even to those who actually like big government and pointless laws.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't some states (California?) have "assault" bans that include Olympic type competition guns? I'm sure it stops a lot of gangbangers from aquiring large, bulky $2000 .22 caliber pistols.

If memory serves, the old regime in Rumania kept a close eye on the fourth estate. All typewriters were registered, with a sample page from each being kept by the authorities so they could compare the typeface if they found that anyone had misused their typing-privileges... Common sense, if you ask me. No law-abiding reporter has anything to fear, you're free to write anything you want, as long as it passes the censors. (/sarcasm)

 

[Partisan Ranger]

Some of the anti-gun stupidity in Virginia -

1. One-handgun-per-month - gee, thanks for spooning out my God-given rights bit by bit.

2. CCW restrictions - can't carry in any establishment that serves alcohol. That nixes about 93% of restaurants.

Overall VA is pro-gun, but we have our fair share of nanny-state mush heads in the DC area. Some counties, such as Fairfax, have a 3 day wait too. I refuse to purchase a gun in any county with a waiting period. But as long as I live in Virginia, I'm on the one-handgun-per-month diet.

 

[stevelyn]

All of the hoops in Alaska are federal.

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

gwa45, you forgot:

Shotguns: Magazine capacity limited by law. Makes certain Winchester and Mossberg models illegal.

"Smart" guns: State AG may effectively outlaw sales of handguns on his own discretion, by declaring "smart" gun technology to exist when the Flybynite Corkscrew Company sells one prototype to the Hillary Clinton Firearms Boutique. No objective reliability standards are required. All state officials are exempt from being sued when the "smart" guns malfunction and lives are lost

Exemptions: Police are exempt by law from the "smart" gun statute, since they need guns that fire when the trigger is pulled. Police are legally exempt from the assault weapon statutes. Former police officers are de facto exempt from these laws, even when they are no longer on the force, as shown in this thread.

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

New York State

Handguns: No posession or temporary transfer of handguns without police permission. If you own handguns and want to move into New York, you cannot legally posess your own guns. You must surrender them to the police at the border. Getting a permit to own a handgun requires two references from people in the county you will be moving into and takes six months. Sullivan Law in New York City prohibits posession of handguns by other than celebrities and the super-rich.

CCW: Discretionary. Reportedly easier the farther you get from New York City. See note on Sullivan Law above.

- pdmoderator

 

[Jrob24]

New handguns must have a chamber loaded indicator, 10 DA trigger pull(because we are such careless idiots we leave loaded handguns where kids can find them) This means we can't buy glocks 5lb pull, but police can

 

[geekWithA.45]

MD: New handguns must have built in trigger locks, plus you must file an expended shell with the ballistics database.

Uh, they might also require magazine disconnects, but I'm not sure.

IMHO, any extra part designed to prevent the gun from going bang, with the exception of 1911 style simple safety for SA carry, is a disaster waiting to happen.

At the end of the day, if the gun can go bang at all, it can go bang at the wrong time, person, place, or thing.

 

[foghornl]

No CCW in Ohio....Had a decent CCW reform pass the Ohio House, but thanks once again to Gov. Booby "Flip-Flop" [which way is the wind blowing now? ? ? ] Daft and the Spineless Ohio Senate, CCW reform looks pretty much dead this go-round.

Some cities require registration of arms...not sure if all, or just handguns. Cleveland is one of those, and I think Columbus & Cincinatti are, too.