Need load for 200 grain RS Berry's with Clays powder

[chbrow10]

Okay folks, I know that there have been a ton of questions regarding what load to use for plated bullets. I have been to the Ranier and Berry website and read thier guidance. However, I cannot find a load for any 200 grain RS (round shoulder) bullets, lead, plated, or jacketed for clays powder.

I have two questions;

1) How important is it to use the same profile (Berry's guidance)? The Lee book doesn't list bullet profiles at all...

2) Does anyone have an accurate plinking load for this bullet and powder?

If it matters, I'm shooting this out of a 5" barrelled 1911.

Thanks,

Chris

 

[Walkalong]

Berry's bullets are great in the .45. I especially like the 185 Gr SWC and the 200 Gr HP.

Clays should work fine, but I have not worked up any loads with it, just experimented a little.

4.2 Grs Clays gave an avg 713 FPS with a Berry's 230 Gr RN from a 4" CDP

4.4 Grs Clays gave an avg 801 FPS with a Precision 200 Gr SWC from a 4" CDP

4.4 Grs Clays gave an avg 755 FPS with a Berry's 200 Gr HP from a 4" CDP

Check your load book and work up a load.

These loads were safe in my gun with my load procedure. Reduce 10% to start.

 

[Wibb]

I have loaded 4.1 and 4.2 Grs Clays with the Berry 200 Gr HP. These actually are excellent loads in my gun (Glock 30 - 4"). I shoot a lot of metal plates and and consistently hit the 6" plates at 20 yards. No signs of pressure and no feeding or ejection problems.

You might try looking at the Hodgdon loading center data to get an idea.

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

 

[chbrow10]

Thanks Folks!!

I checked my load book and Hodgdon's and came up dry. The only thing that was close was the Lee book that is in line with what y'all are saying, so that is good...

 

[ArchAngelCD]

The Hodgdon load data site lists 3.6gr Clays as the starting charge and 4.3gr as the Max charge for a 200gr Cast LSWC bullet. They list 3.9gr to 4.3gr Clays for a 200gr JHP bullet.

 

[chbrow10]

So matching bullet profile isn't important?

Okay, I saw that too. But the Berry's site says that you need to match the bullet profile (Round shoulder in my case), and the Hodgedon site doesn't have anything for a 200 gr round should or flat point.

So what you are saying is that matching the bullet profile isn't important (Question #1 above)?

 

[Walkalong]

It is not critically important. It is something to consider. The depth it seats in the case and structure of the bulet is more important than the profile.

 

[mjrodney]

I've literally sent thousands of 200g LSWC downrange against paper using 3.8g of ordinary Clays.

Anywhere between 3.6 and 4.3 should do you well.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

So what you are saying is that matching the bullet profile isn't important (Question #1 above)?

I agree with what "Walkalong" said. Weight and diameter of the bullet are far more important than the profile IMO. If you can't find data for the exact same profile bullet you have use the starting load data for the same weight and diameter bullet you have and work up from there. A fired bullet that weighs 200gr doesn't know if it had a round shoulder or if it's a SWC.