Need some help guys (GOP Candidates)

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Here's the official list of GOP candidates:

Senator Sam Brownback
John Cox
Jim Gilmore, former Governor of Virginia
Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York City
Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas
Representative Duncan Hunter
Senator John McCain
Representative Ron Paul, M.D.
Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts
Representative Tom Tancredo
Tommy Thompson, former Governor of Wisconsin

Out of this list, who is the strongest pro-Second Amendment candidate besides Ron Paul? I am guessing Duncan Hunter, but I'm not sure. I definately know not McCain or Rudy.
 
Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist, his record speaks for it's self. I can not imagine Dr. Paul ever making a decision that would go against the true intent of the 2a.

Maybe this is what you are getting at?
 
Even though I believe Ron Paul is correct about a lot of things I will not support him or any of the Republican candidates for President. Personally, I will not be voting in 2008.
 
Even though I believe Ron Paul is correct about a lot of things I will not support him or any of the Republican candidates for President. Personally, I will not be voting in 2008.
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Wow you are going to make a hell of a statement then. I am sure it is going to be all over the news that you didnt vote.

So because you have no chance to elect the person you want in office you will not vote?

While you are standing around stomping your feet and crossing your arms I will be voting for Ron Paul.

Ridiculous
 
Wow you are going to make a hell of a statement then. I am sure it is going to be all over the news that you didnt vote.

So because you have no chance to elect the person you want in office you will not vote?

While you are standing around stomping your feet and crossing your arms I will be voting for Ron Paul.
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Thats nice but you are basically doing the same by voting for Paul.
 
Did you just have a Miss Cleo moment? It's better to throw a punch or three and lose a fight than to just stand there and take an ass-whuppin' without swinging back.

Biker
 
I'll vote pro-IIA over anti-IIA, even if they're not my optimal choice. I'd vote for Ron Paul in the primaries and then go from there after we see who gets the nomination. He's the best candidate I've seen in my lifetime. Never before has a person actually upheld the Constitution with his/her voting record so much.

Not voting is pointless. Even voting for the lesser of two evils is better than that. Also, holding an entire political party responsible for any issues you have with a select individual or group of individuals is silly. You're essentially saying that Ron Paul = Rudy Giuliani = John McCain. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is a political spectrum, even within a particular party. Ron Paul is essentially a Libertarian. Giuliani is essentially a Democrat. The letter after a candidate's name is all about strategy, not beliefs.

And for those who say you're throwing your vote away by voting for Ron Paul, he's won the MSNBC and ABC News internet polls on who won the debates by a longshot (87% of the 20,000+ votes thus far).

I have yet to find a politician with whom I agree 100% on everything, but Ron Paul is as good as I've ever seen.
 
Jim Gilmore is an idiot who flopped as VA governor. Then flopped as the chairman of the RNC. Now he's naive enough to believe that anyone will vote for him for POTUS. I seriously doubt that he could carry VA in a presidential election. His candidacy is DOA.
 
Im at a loss fellows, at first glance Ron Paul seems real real real good, his ideas are great but something really really really hit me hard.

The fact that he endorsed a president as bad as reagen has me wondering if hes going to become another bush if elected.

However ill vote ron paul long before i vote obama or guilani.
 
If you're referring to the debate, I don't think he endorsed Regan (or Bush, for that matter), instead he was illustrating how the Republican constituents voted for Regan (and Bush) because of their foreign policies and anti-war stances (during their candidacies). Like a true statesman he can acknowledge a good point or aspect of something without buying into the whole thing part and parcel.

Giuliani's was playing entirely into the inverse of that, triggering the "9/11 reflex" or "patriotism reflex" where any questioning of policy is equivalent to questioning the American people or a persons' patriotism. Condemnation of a single thing as condemnation of a whole.
 
The fact that he endorsed a president as bad as reagen has me wondering if hes going to become another bush if elected.
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Reagan is the best Republican president we've had I think. I don't see where your problem lies.

But if you would do some research into Paul's voting record, you'd realize that Reagan is way more conservative whereas Paul is more libertarian.
 
I liked Huckabee last night. Need to find out about 2a.
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According to ontheissues.org:

* Supports self-defense and `castle doctrine'. (Jan 2006)
* Allow concealed carry. (Nov 2002)

According to this http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2007/04/national-review-huckabee-understands.html

HH:…What about assault weapons, or what is called assault weapons in the law? Should Americans be allowed to have them?


MH: Absolutely. Americans ought to be allowed to have anything they want to have, as long as they’re law abiding, legal citizens. The 2nd Amendment was not there for hunting. I get so offended when Democrats talk about it as if you don’t need an assault weapon to hunt. Well truthfully, most Democrats wouldn’t know an assault weapon from a BB gun. I’m a hunter, I have been my whole life. But the 2nd Amendment is not just about hunting. It’s about protecting your family, your property, and it’s honestly about defending ourselves against a tyrannical government, should it ever go haywire on us.
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It's better to throw a punch or three and lose a fight than to just stand there and take an ass-whuppin' without swinging back.

Biker
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I always pay attention when you bother to say something, because it usually makes a hell of a lot of sense.

I keep waiting for someone to come up with a reason not to vote for Ron Paul but there's never anything. "Yeah, he's good but he...ahmm...won't win...who else can I vote for...?" Geah!
 
I heard a segment with a taped quote from Romney today on the radio thet he made within the last two days. He said "I support the 2nd Amendment but I agree with the assault weapons ban. To me that shows he doesn't understand the issue and is a deal breaker for me.

There are many issues where I figure the candidates are so similar it doesn't really matter, but in the end I am a single issue voter. If there is any hint of gun control such as the statements by Guiliani or Romney and they are done in my eyes.
 
Pretty much any of the media anointed front-runners is anti-gun, with the pro-gun candidates playing catch up. It's too bad, since if the current media darlings win the nomination, the Republican base will detect no difference between them and the Democrat, and stay home.

<tinfoil hat>
Maybe, just maybe, the fifth columnist Left Wing Democrat dominated Media is deliberately pushing RINOs on Republicans in an effort to put Hillary Clinton in the White House?
</tinfoil hat>

(no, I'm not really that paranoid. The Republican Party has strayed far, far away from the principles of limited government and low taxes to deserve any less scrutiny from the base.)
 
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