Need the kind of mental help only a THR reloader can provide

[cwbys4evr]

Okay I have been attempting to reload .223 for my AR. At first I have a problem with seating the bullets but with help here I got a but better at it. My die is adjusted as good as it probably gets and locked down good.

Problem is a lot of the bullets I seat "look to me" like they are slanted ie not exactly straight up. I'm talking probably an nth of a degree tilt. It is so slight as to be useless to post a picture of because nobody could see it. I had my 13 yo daughter examine the 5 rounds I just made compared to a Hornady Z-Max round and she said they all looked straight to her.

Nobody that I show these rounds to can tell any difference, but I swear that some just don't look right. Granted I can't really tell once I examine them real close, the case neck is not deformed at all, not one iota and the seating depth is good.

Am I just a newby being extra paranoid?? If they are actually off only that little, would it even make a difference? Is there a way to measure it?

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[918v]

Roll them and see if the bullet noses wobble.

 

[edfardos]

Yup, roll'em. Been there. Your eyes see what your mind suggests.

 

[cwbys4evr]

Not that I could tell.

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[Henry45]

Are you sure that your cases are trimmed straight? Maybe they were trimmed at a slight angle and that it's a visual thing because of that? If they don't wobble when you roll them then I'd say it's probably just a visual thing.

 

[thump_rrr]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[tyeo098]

Thats not very possible, when the bullet is shoved in the case the walls of the case should FORCE it straight.

Roll em, then light em up.

See how accuracy looks.

 

[splattergun]

Roll 'em on a mirror on the table. Even a tiny wobble will be apparent.
If they roll without a wobble, you might want to have your eyes checked for astigmatism.

 

[jb27]

You could pick up a concentricity gauge and measure to see. If you subscribe to the theory of 'buy once, cry once', i'd suggest taking a look at Sinclair's gauge. Just happens that it is currently on sale.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-equipment/measuring-tools/concentricity-gauges/sinclair-concentricity-gage-prod37479.aspx

 

[cwo2lt]

Assemble 5k and send to me. I'll QA them for you and send the good ones back

 

[Certaindeaf]

If you roll them and they don't wobble, close an eyeball. Maybe they are straight. They sell machines/tools to measure runout. For whatever that's worth.. they either shoot or don't.

 

[cwbys4evr]

Assemble 5k and send to me. I'll QA them for you and send the good ones back

Lol!

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[cwbys4evr]

Thats not very possible, when the bullet is shoved in the case the walls of the case should FORCE it straight.

Roll em, then light em up.

See how accuracy looks.

That's probably what I needed to hear. I did roll em as suggested and couldn't see any wobble. After that they looked straight to the naked eye. Probably just paranoid, I want these rounds to be perfect. That's why I asked for mental help, I figured it was in my head.

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[medalguy]

Got an old primer stuck under one leg of your chair?

Seriously, just roll them and look at them. You should be able to tell pretty easily.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

If no one other than you can see the difference and everything looks straight except when you look at them even if they are tilted slightly it's so slight it won't matter. What's there to be paranoid about? Poor accuracy would be the only problem if the round has excessive bullet run-out.

 

[918v]

Thats not very possible, when the bullet is shoved in the case the walls of the case should FORCE it straight.

Actually, it is very possible, probable even. Brass is elastic and conforms around the bullet, not the other way around.

 

[jim243]

Unless you are shooting for competition and need 0.00001 MOA accuracy I would not worry they will be fine. Most case necks are not concentric and a competition shooter will trim the case and then turn the neck to insure the wall thickness is the same all around. For most of us shooters that is not necessary since 1 MOA or 0.5 MOA is perfectly fine for what we are doing with the round. Once the bullet hits the throat it gets swagged anyways that is why they are .224 inch instead of .223 inch, they get compressed to the barrel size as you fire them.

As long as the mouth and neck are not damaged by inserting the bullet into the case, you have no need to be concerned.

Go out and shot them and have fun.
Jim

 

[Hit_Factor]

I remember turning my head and closing my eyes before squeezing off my first reload test round.

It's natural to be concerned about the quality and safety of your rounds. Probably healthy too.

Sounds like you need to shoot some and find out if you are getting the performance you expected. Generally, I find reloads to be more accurate than factory ammo and hope you have the same results.

 

[45lcshooter]

Ill loan you my contacts, let me know if they help. haha

 

[balderclev]

I remember turning my head and closing my eyes before squeezing off my first reload test round.

Me too! Does everyone do that??

 

[WinchesterAA]

I tied my rifle to a fallen tree with barrel aimed at ground a few feet away, and pulled the trigger with paracord from 20 yards away and behind cover.

Worked like a charm.