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My wife found this on the web and I wanted to know what you all thought about it.

Target shooters! You're gonna love this one! < la-dude > 01/25 01:26:03

I was watching a shooting program on TV where they covered a shooting competition in Las Vegas that was held inside one of the hotels!

They were able to do it by using wax bullets. If you aren't familiar with wax bullets, here is the basic concept. Take a centerfire cartridge shell like a .38 or .357 magnum and drill out the primer hole and insert a shotgun primer for your propellant. Then, take a wax plug (the bullet) that is the same diameter as the lead bullet would be, and push it into the shell casing until it's flush with the rim. The cartridge will now resemble a blank but instead of paper plug, there will be wax. There is NO gunpowder in this round. The tiny charge in the primer used to ignite shotgun shells is the propellant.

These rounds can be loaded by hand with NO special tools very quickly. They are very accurate out to 25-30 feet, and very quiet. About as loud as a cap gun. They are also relatively safe in terms that they will not penetrate skin, or cause serious injury unless hit in the eye. These can literally be shot safely in your garage, or backyard provided you have a safe backstop, and a simple trap made from cardboard or wood.

These rounds will only function in revolvers or pump or lever action firearms, as there isn't enough pressure to cycle a semi-auto firearm.

The best part is the price! You can buy 1000 rounds of the wax bullets including shipping for $20! You can buy the specially prepared shells which can be used over and over thousands of times @ $50 for 35 in .38, .357, .44, or buy them for $1.50 each. Primers are about $15 per 1000! This means you can shoot 1000 rounds for $35! You can barely shoot BB's for 3.5 cents a piece!

Couple that with being able to shoot at home for free, and using home made targets, you can save a fortune over going to the range.

As always, make sure you are competent with the firearms in question, be sure of your target and what is beyond it, and treat every gun as if it were loaded and be safe!
 
It works. You can also get little rubber bullets which are reusable and a little more convenient to handle than wax is.

The downside? Mediocre accuracy, and lots of gritty mess from the primer residue (most of it is normally combusted by the burning powder) . It smells weird, too.

The obvious safety rules apply, plus one more - don't get the modified brass mixed up with your regular brass. The oversized primer hole will cause problems with full-power ammo.
 
People have been making their own wax bullets for decades - it's much cheaper. The "specially prepared shells" have had the flash-holes drilled out a bit - also much cheaper to do it yourself.
 
I've melted paraffin and a toilet wax-ring (50/50) in an old ice cube tray, one of the old aluminum ones. An old cake pan or such would work. Make it about 3/8 inch deep. Let set up and push the .38 case, sized and re-primed w/ pistol primer into the wax. Probably ought to have some ventilation if you're gonna shoot very many. Heavy cardboard silhouettes make good targets.


Stay safe.
Bob

PS: Don't shoot people or pets with these; no need to risk problems!
 
Is there any easy way to prime/deprime a casing without a press?

Get a Lee Loader tool. They include a little punch for popping out primers that works pretty good.
 
Bill Jordan

Bill Jordan's book NO SECOND PLACE WINNER has a whole section on making and shooting wax bullets for practice.
He used a block of wax and a loading block full of cases in a vice to load his rounds.
 
Lead in primers

I have been told that primers contain a certain amount of lead. I would confirm it before firing them in my home without some serious ventilation.

Doc2005
 
Yup, I used to shoot them (along with the Speer plastic case/plastic bullets) in my parents basement with my dad when I was a kid.Thats how I lerned safety and how to shoot.Both work ok at 20-30 or so, they tend to keyhole and loose accuracy much past that.Fun though.I still have the Speer plastic stuff use it to feed the shooting urge on cold/rainy days sometimes.
 
Rubber Bullets & Plastic Bullets at MidwayUSA

Rubber bullets from MidwayUSA. The link follows:

http://www.midwayusa.com/esearch.ex...earch.y=0&Click+to+Begin+Search=Search_Button

Note that the primer hole enlargement is recommended. One uses a standard primer with these, no messing around with trying to get other primers to fit properly. I also understand that they can be re-used multiple times.

MidwayUSA also carries plastic bullets:

http://www.midwayusa.com/esearch.ex...earch.y=0&Click+to+Begin+Search=Search_Button

The same use, enlarge the primer, ect.

Doc2005
 
Do the rubber bullets just slide into the casing when you construct them? I am buying them online right now and I want to make sure I get everything in one stop.


Thanks for the link Doc2005.
 
Doc,

The plastic bullets use the plastic cases that come with the bullets, not brass cases with flash-holes drilled out. I have some of the plastic bullets somewhere and I would guess that the rubber bullets would be more durable and have a longer life.
 
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