Needed: King Cobra (new) Owner's Experience

[Mr. Mosin]

I thought I had done so.

The new Cobras do not contain Trooper Mk. III internals, and there is no reason to think them more robust than the new Python.

Then what kinda internals *do* the new Cobra/King Cobra contain ? And until I see a proper long term test of the new Pythons, they're still just as prone to their old issues as ever- irrelevant of what Colt says.

 

[Kleanbore]

Then what kinda internals *do* the new Cobra/King Cobra contain ?

New Colt Cobra internals.

And until I see a proper long term test of the new Pythons, they're still just as prone to their old issues as ever- irrelevant of what Colt says.

Whatever you may not have seen cannot make a firearm prone to anything.

Perhaps you missed the review in the American Rifleman. They explained how the issue has been addressed, and provided annotated photographs.

Not to worry.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

Seeing as I see little need to subscribe to AR, yes I missed that issue. Like I said- guilty until proven innocent.

New Colt Cobra internals.

Whatever you may not have seen cannot make a firearm prone to anything.

Perhaps you missed the review in the American Rifleman. They explained how the issue has been addressed, and provided annotated photographs.

Not to worry.

 

[Kleanbore]

Seeing as I see little need to subscribe to AR, yes I missed that issue. Like I said- guilty until proven innocent.

From the article:

"While the action’s components are similar in shape and location relative to original Pythons, they are noticeably larger, polished and free of tooling marks. The mainspring, especially, appears to be incredibly robust and makes the original’s component look anemic by comparison, like a clothes hanger or large paper clip had been pressed into service.

"One distinct difference in the new Python is the inclusion of a separate cylinder-stop mechanism, which resides above and just forward of the trigger, similar in design to those of Smith & Wesson’s revolvers. Finally, shooters will certainly feel Colt’s improved machining as they pull the trigger; the lockwork and engagement surfaces are manufactured to much tighter tolerances than were possible in the older hand-tuned guns, and the new Pythons exhibit remarkably smooth trigger pulls that are consistent from chamber to chamber."
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The red text pertains to changes made to prevent the thing from going out of time, as did the old Colts.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

From the article:

"While the action’s components are similar in shape and location relative to original Pythons, they are noticeably larger, polished and free of tooling marks. The mainspring, especially, appears to be incredibly robust and makes the original’s component look anemic by comparison, like a clothes hanger or large paper clip had been pressed into service.

"One distinct difference in the new Python is the inclusion of a separate cylinder-stop mechanism, which resides above and just forward of the trigger, similar in design to those of Smith & Wesson’s revolvers. Finally, shooters will certainly feel Colt’s improved machining as they pull the trigger; the lockwork and engagement surfaces are manufactured to much tighter tolerances than were possible in the older hand-tuned guns, and the new Pythons exhibit remarkably smooth trigger pulls that are consistent from chamber to chamber."
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The red text pertains to changes made to prevent the thing from going out of time, as did the old Colts.

I wonder how much the respective gun rags were paid to wax eloquent about the new Pythons ? Like I said- actions speak louder then any words, and Colt's actions thus far are absolutely abysmal for what should have been their shining moment and return to glory. Butchering the re-release of their flagship revolver because of their attempt to cut corners.

 

[Old Dog]

Is that a set of Ahrends Cocobolo combat grips I see on the M19?

Heck yeah! My favorite K-frame grips of all time.

 

[Old Dog]

I wonder how much the respective gun rags were paid to wax eloquent about the new Pythons ?

Okay, according to Roy Huntington, editor of American Handgunner, they don't get paid for favorable write-ups of new handguns. I'm just not about to call him a bald-faced liar. Think he still is a member of this forum. Also, Mas Ayoob, also a member of this former, has written glowing reviews of all the new Colt revolvers. Pretty sure he wants to maintain his credibility in the gun community.

Finally, well-know gunwriter Denis Prisbrey, late great frequent contributor to THR (username DPris) had a lot to say over the years about the implication that gun-writers (and the publications) got paid to do favorable reviews about new guns, even those with problems.

I ain't buying it (that the good reviews of the new Pythons were paid for).

 

[Mr. Mosin]

Okay, according to Roy Huntington, editor of American Handgunner, they don't get paid for favorable write-ups of new handguns. I'm just not about to call him a bald-faced liar. Think he still is a member of this forum. Also, Mas Ayoob, also a member of this former, has written glowing reviews of all the new Colt revolvers. Pretty sure he wants to maintain his credibility in the gun community.

Finally, well-know gunwriter Denis Prisbrey, late great frequent contributor to THR (username DPris) had a lot to say over the years about the implication that gun-writers (and the publications) got paid to do favorable reviews about new guns, even those with problems.

I ain't buying it (that the good reviews of the new Pythons were paid for).

Thank you for enlightening me. I apologise to those I may have offended.

 

[Kleanbore]

I wonder how much the respective gun rags were paid to wax eloquent about the new Pythons ? Like I said- actions speak louder then any words, and Colt's actions thus far are absolutely abysmal for what should have been their shining moment and return to glory. Butchering the re-release of their flagship revolver because of their attempt to cut corners.

I was incensed by those comments, but i see that Old Dog has addressed them.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I was incensed by those comments, but i see that Old Dog has addressed them.

I was incensed by Colt's butchery of a release, good sir; but I moved on when they managed to fix it. I was also somewhat... in place in my earlier suggestion. You can't tell me that several gun writers give a gun spectacular reviews, and then *multitudes* just do happen to have the exact same issues (issues that should've been caught on the factory floor); that the thought doesn't cross your mind "something isn't adding up". No insult meant, but... I imagine many more than I have thought what I voiced, and understandably so.

 

[Kleanbore]

I was incensed by Colt's butchery of a release,

"Butchery"? That's beyond absurd.

then *multitudes* just do happen to have the exact same issues

The quotation marks around "multitudes" are appropriate.. It was a gross exaggeration.

You can't tell me...that the thought doesn't cross your mind "something isn't adding up".

Nope. Not at all.

I've been following the new Cobra series and the new Python extremely closely since the first announcements I have been seriously considering buying the Cobra and/or King Cobra.

The issues have been few and minor.

Do your homework before making such posts.

Do not draw conclusions from insufficient data.

Pay attention to how manufacturers respond to issues.

How closely have you followed recall, return, and repair stats for other newly introduced firearms over the years?

The S&W M&P semiautos are extremely highly regarded. But at the outset, many of them had to go back for new barrels. Mine didn't.

Kimbers...Taurus...Walther...Springfield XD-S...Rugers....

 

[Mr. Mosin]

"Butchery"? That's beyond absurd.

The quotation marks around "multitudes" are appropriate.. It was a gross exaggeration.

Nope. Not at all.

I've been following the new Cobra series and the new Python extremely closely since the first announcements I have been seriously considering buying the Cobra and/or King Cobra.

The issues have been few and minor.

Do your homework before making such posts.

Do not draw conclusions from insufficient data.

Pay attention to how manufacturers respond to issues.

How closely have you followed recall, return, and repair stats for other newly introduced firearms over the years?

The S&W M&P semiautos are extremely highly regarded. But at the outset, many of them had to go back for new barrels. Mine didn't.

Kimbers...Taurus...Walther...Springfield XD-S...Rugers....

You missed the point.