NEF Pardner Protector

[chuckusaret]

I never understood the people who refuse to buy Chinese. I've always felt that money was a reward. We give it to corporations that make quality products because we like those products. If the Chinese shotgun is just as good as the comparable American model, but costs half as much, what is wrong with the Chinese model? My money is not a crutch to keep American companies on their feet if their products cannot outperform those of their competitors.

I can not believe your comment. I don't really care one way or the other, I am retired, don't need a job, don't want a job, but I buy American to keep some Americans employed. Buy American and keep your job in America. At the rate the jobs are going overseas you will not have a job much longer and will not be able to provide a crutch to the American companies, only their corporate headquarters will be in America and you will be on the street looking for a handout.

Food for thought. Remember when Datsun, Toyota and VW all came to America, they were cheap, everyone bought one to save a buck. Well look what saving the buck has caused. The foreign cars are no longer cheap in price, but we are soon not to have any American car manufacturers in America nor will we have those jobs.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

I saw one the other day and wondered about it. Shoot I have a nearly 30 870 wingmaster that is built like a tank. I am looking at them for a 20 gauge for the wife and daughter.

 

[meytind]

Food for thought. Remember when Datsun, Toyota and VW all came to America, they were cheap, everyone bought one to save a buck. Well look what saving the buck has caused. The foreign cars are no longer cheap in price, but we are soon not to have any American car manufacturers in America nor will we have those jobs.

Sorry to go off topic with this again, but if you look at those cars now, they are better than their American counterparts. They get better gas mileage and safety ratings. If it was all about price, people would be buying the American cars now to "save a buck," but they're not. They buy the better foreign cars.
The American car companies deserved everything they got. They saw that they did not have any competition for a long period of time and they grew complacent. They let the rest of the industry pass them by and their consumers left them for a competing manufacturer. That's how capitalism works.
This is the last thing I'm going to say in this thread regarding the "Buy American" issue. I'm done.

 

[chuckusaret]

If the foreign cars are so great why don't you see any that would be called an antique still on the roads of America. I sure see a lot of old American cars. I own a 1989 Lincon Town Car that I bought in September 1988. In the 20 years and over 250,000 miles I have only replaced tires, one head light and one alternator. It has outlived a Honda Civic that died with 78K miles( Cracked cylinder head), Toyota Camry 105,000 miles(Valve/piston failure) and a Mazda B2000 110,000 (Main bearing failure). All the cars /trucks had seen their day and were not economically repairable. All were bought new and driven by my wife or by me and all were serviced by the dealer. Only buy American now. I'll be driving when you guys that buy foreign cars are walking looking for a job. There will be no jobs here they all went to China.

 

[jlv08]

It's unfortunate that we have to bicker among ourselves regarding "Buy America' when we should be throwing the bums out in D.C. who are the real reason that our jobs are going overseas.

We just got lucky when NEF started getting quality parts to assemble a decent field grade shotgun on our shores with foreign parts from a manufacturer who makes quality parts.

No one is complaining about SKS rifles or Ak's for that matter so why the fuss???????

If you are mad about selling jobs to China, take it out on the sellout cretins in the senate and congress who have been screwing Americans for years.

 

[FLNT4EVR]

Pardner protector.

I purchased mine just over 1 year ago and was quite suprised at the quality. The action was a bit rough at first , but with some good lube ,and working it a bit ,it smoothed out nicely.It will hold 5 3inch or 6 2 3/4 . The 3 inch , in my opinion, have too much recoil for practical HD purposes.
I have realy put this gun thru it's paces at the range ,and it's function so far has been flawless. It is an excellent slug gun ,with good accuracy with Remington sluggers out to 75 yds with just the front bead. It also patterns well and consistantly with 00 buck , and should be very effective out to 40 yds.For less than $200 you would be very hard pressed to find something better.

 

[jlv08]

These are real well made guns and if it was illegal to import them, which they are imported in parts and assembled here, they would not be here.

I'm not going to talk down a gun that is made in China, Russia, Spain, Italy,

Timbuktu, or anywhere else, because of where it is made.

I don't care for China's Communist government or fear them as much as I fear

the government that WE have at present and the damage that it is being

done with the policies of the present administration.

I speak on the gun and it's merits and try to remain objective when I give my

amateur opinon.

A good value is a good value and the Pardner Pump is a good value.

 

[-v-]

IIRC, the law does not prohibit the importation of "sporting" firearms from china, sporting directly translating to shotguns for all intents and purposes.

I have a Mossy 500, but I would have picked this up if it was possible for them to stay stocked in this area. From all reports, NEF pumps are a very reliable and good "value for the money" products out there.

re: Foreign made cars: I also drive American-built cars exclusively, and will continue to buy them. That's why I drive a Toyota.

 

[iafirebuff]

I finally got the Pardner out to the range today. What a fun gun!

 

[Magic_Man]

I just picked up a Pardner to use as a project toy. I already have an 870, but I might sell the 870 & keep the Pardner if it performs well for me as I really don't need both.

 

[hags]

There is no such thing as the free market. Take a look around.

It's somehow ok with everyone that the world builds lines of factories on the Mexican border and then dumps stuff here? Same thing in the Pacific rim.

Pretty soon it'll be you washing my car and me washing your car. Think about it.

Anyway,

The Pardner Pump is a decent shotgun. I have a few in for testing out of personal curiosity.

I think alot of issues with the 870 Express have to do with a dumbed down, gun-ignorant firearms buying public. Just my opinion and I'm not saying there aren't some issues.

I've sold dozens, Haven't had any issues as far as I know. I kept one out of a new lot and it's been 100%.

My neighbor has a 1937 coupe, original flathead engine, repainted, 120 hp, there are nothing wrong with American products!!!

The fact is cheap guns sell, they outsell superior products because the bottom line for most people is the almighty dollar.

 

[Big Daddy Grim]

Look like fun maybe I found my trunk gun

 

[hags]

The Pardner Pump is a fine shotgun at a great price. There has always been a market for field guns in the US. If people aren't buying high dollar guns it's because they don't want them. Nobody builds V8 muscle cars that get 4 mpg either. I like those too but I don't want to use one everyday. People buy what they want.

Slightly OT but I gotta believe that everyone at one time has wanted something that that was/is considered high priced.

People arent' buying high priced guns for a variety of reasons. Personal situation, job sit., economy, uncertain about long term fiscal health, etc.........

 

[chevyforlife21]

i bought one of these 4 years ago i fired at least 500 rounds threw it and never one jam. this gun is super reliable and tough. i also have a benelli nova tactical and a mossberg persuader. and let me tell the protector is good enough its more relianble then my nova and slightly better then the mossberg. the protector is made with heavy gauge steel and has a 5 shot tube. i deffintly couldnt tell this gone was made in china it seems the highest quality out of any gun ive had.

 

[22_Shooter]

Just picked one up the other day.

Feels super solid, just like my AK's (Saigas).








...........and because it was so cheap, I had to pick up a PG for it. Just a novelty, I'm sure. But hey, why not have some fun with it?






I'll be sending a money order to Max in the near future, for one of his +2's.

 

[Magic_Man]

Broke mine in yesterday & it worked perfectly. I'll be adding some goodies to it & a camo paint job soon. I bought it as a cheap project to play with as I did not want to deface my 870.

 

[ohioarmedneutrality]

<------------------------- Loves his Pardner Pump Protector.

 

[Xyas]

I was in the market for my first shotgun recently and saw this for a cheap price. My question, do you find it reliable enough for a home defense shotgun? I wasn't familiar with it at all and I want to make sure I have a reliable shotgun for home defense. I was going to get a mossberg 500 or remington 870 but if this is really reliable, for this price, I'd definitely pick one up. Thanks!

 

[22_Shooter]

I was in the market for my first shotgun recently and saw this for a cheap price. My question, do you find it reliable enough for a home defense shotgun? I wasn't familiar with it at all and I want to make sure I have a reliable shotgun for home defense. I was going to get a mossberg 500 or remington 870 but if this is really reliable, for this price, I'd definitely pick one up. Thanks!

Go for it.

Just Google for info. That's what I did and I couldn't find any negative reviews.

Regardless of any gun, caliber, brand or otherwise........I would put a decent amount of rounds through it before I trusted it to HD duties.

 

[conw]

Food for thought. Remember when Datsun, Toyota and VW all came to America, they were cheap, everyone bought one to save a buck. Well look what saving the buck has caused. The foreign cars are no longer cheap in price, but we are soon not to have any American car manufacturers in America nor will we have those jobs.

The reason they aren't cheap is because of tariffs and taxes on import cars. If you took your USD into Japan and bought one, it'd be a fraction of what it cost here.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/32804.html
Also, I'm sorry, but protectionism is just a matter of not knowing the facts on what sending jobs overseas actually does. In a healthy economy it forces people to get educated, get better jobs, and typically more job growth occurs WITHIN THE USA when jobs go overseas.

Please, just do some reading on the facts regarding free market capitalism and trade.

 

[22_Shooter]

Food for thought. Remember when Datsun, Toyota and VW all came to America, they were cheap, everyone bought one to save a buck. Well look what saving the buck has caused. The foreign cars are no longer cheap in price, but we are soon not to have any American car manufacturers in America nor will we have those jobs.

To put the downfall of American car companies, on the presence of "foreign" cars is a joke.

Funny that a lot of "American" cars are made elsewhere, and the "foreign" cars are made here in the US, in factories filled with American workers.

 

[Howaido]

Our "trade partners" devalue their own currency and our government agrees to one-sided "free trade" agreements to the effect of destroying production in this country.

Anyhoo, I can't help but think of these guns like I do "smith & wesson" knives (and other junk knives from china). They are rip-offs of the real (albeit more expensive) things being made here.

But, like I like to say, I got the last good 870E, so I don't need to worry about the possibility of having to buy one of these norincos, ever.

It's unfortunate that we have to bicker among ourselves regarding "Buy America' when we should be throwing the bums out in D.C. who are the real reason that our jobs are going overseas.

They will be replaced by others who will have the same masters.

 

[meytind]

I buy cars and guns based on whether I like them or not at the price they cost. Half of those so called American cars are built in Mexico or S. America or somewhere besides the USA. I like to buy good old US built cars - like Nissan Xterras which are built in Smyrna, TN. I like giving US workers jobs. I could care less about US factory owners. I owned a Blazer in the 90's and I loved it. But they aren't anything like they were back then now.

QFT.

 

[22_Shooter]

So back on topic...............

Am I OK to dry fire my Pardner?

This is my first pump shotgun (also only my second scattergun at all. The first being an S12).

 

[conw]

Just use a spent shotshell to DFP. Get 5 or 6 of them and a buttcuff and practice aim, cock, fire, eject, load, repeat. BE SAFE though.