NEF Pardner Protector
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22_Shooter
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I've got dummy rounds (replicated weight and dimensions to test cycling) but the primer on it is pierced, so it doesn't do much, as a "snap cap".
So dry firing pump shotguns is a no-go?
oneounceload
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You can fit an eraser from a #2 pencil in the primer pocket, trim to flush, good to go. I prefer ti use snap caps in ALL of my guns, but that's just me.....
Could it have been those nasty import tariffs that "forced" those poor japanese companies to start making cars in the US and employing Americans?
That's what I always heard anyhow.
Oh no!!!!
I was talking to my cousin who just bought what sounds like one of these chinese guns. Can't remember what "brand" it was made under, but from the cost and description over the phone, must be one. When I take a look at it, or even shoot it, I will let you know.
JFrame
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I know there have been several recommendations for the use of dummy shotgun shells of one form or another -- but just to echo 22_Shooter's question here...Could we have a "definitive" answer from experts as to whether it's a no-no to dry-fire pump shotguns, and the Pardner in particular?
Thanks!
JFrame
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Walter Oakley said:
Thank you, Sir!
Thank you, Sir!
Dave McCracken
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It doesn't hurt an 870 to be dry fired. So, since the "Pardner" is a clone of this proven US made design, it probably won't hurt to dry fire them either.
Archery Ham
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So most parts are comapatible?
chuckusaret
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A cheap reliable shotgun is all that is needed for home defense. If it is fired during a home invasion the weapon, in most cases, will be confiscated and kept until the investigation is complete, could take years. I have a cheap Mossberg and if used and confiscated will not be missed and cheaply replaced.
MAX100
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All parts but the barrels are a drop in fit. Barrels would be too if the barrel rings were in the same location on the barrels.
GC
MAX100
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You could probably make a spacer tube out of PVC or aluminum. Just so it slips over the mag tube of the 982 snug and is the right length so the mag cap will screw on tight. It will need to have about the same OD as the mag cap.
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JFrame
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Dave McCracken said:
Thanks, Dave!
Thanks, Dave!
I bought one from bud's also when they did the weekend sale a month or two ago, $167 shipped. Local FFL charges $10.
Its a very nice gun. Its not just the cost savings, I think in quality/features... it is a NICER gun than a 870 Express. At the time 870 Wingmasters (older ones in pawn shops) were $175 and it was a debate for me, but I would have had to cut down or buy replacement barrel for those (I wanted a 18.5" one). I found a Mossberg 500 (pistol grip 18.5" one) in a pawn shop a couple days after I recieved by NEF for $125 so I bought it also. About the same time our Walmarts starting get Mav88s back in stock in 12ga.
Its a very nice gun. Its not just the cost savings, I think in quality/features... it is a NICER gun than a 870 Express. At the time 870 Wingmasters (older ones in pawn shops) were $175 and it was a debate for me, but I would have had to cut down or buy replacement barrel for those (I wanted a 18.5" one). I found a Mossberg 500 (pistol grip 18.5" one) in a pawn shop a couple days after I recieved by NEF for $125 so I bought it also. About the same time our Walmarts starting get Mav88s back in stock in 12ga.
Shpadoinkel
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I just ordered a Knoxx SpecOps Stock for my 3 day old Pardner Protector. The customer service rep said that the 870 stock would fit it, but I think they had to consult a manual or another person, he didn't sound too certain.
So... I'll let you know how it goes. Should be coming in in about a week.
My reason for the doubt is that after a quick google search, I found only one person that was trying to do the same thing, and he said that it was not a flush fit and was concerned about it. Hopefully that person just didn't know what he was doing (not that I do).
So... I'll let you know how it goes. Should be coming in in about a week.
My reason for the doubt is that after a quick google search, I found only one person that was trying to do the same thing, and he said that it was not a flush fit and was concerned about it. Hopefully that person just didn't know what he was doing (not that I do).
MAX100
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The Knoxx stocks will fit. The receiver stud on the Protector is a little longer and you might have to take it down a little with a grinder so the stock fit flush. You don't need the receiver spacer plate so if it's causing problems leave it out. I've had to modify 870 stocks to fit 870 stocks. Most accessories aren't a drop in fit.
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Thanks for the tip MAX. I'm going to attempt to put it on this weekend.
If I do end up having to grind down the receiver stud (something I really hope I don't have to do), would I be able to get the original stock back on in the future? Or once I take a grinder to it, it's Knoxx or nothing?
If I do end up having to grind down the receiver stud (something I really hope I don't have to do), would I be able to get the original stock back on in the future? Or once I take a grinder to it, it's Knoxx or nothing?
MAX100
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All other stocks will still fit. A new 870 receiver stud only cost $5 so don't worry.
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Am i the only one who thinks the main reason I will pay 50 bucks more for a used 870 wingmaster is because
Pardner Protector is a REALLY stupid sounding name?
"Hey what gun you got there!"
"Whall thats mah Purdner Protectur, it protects mah purdner"
its just a stupid name.
Pard.
Maybe its cool if you live in Texas... but yeah.
Pardner Protector is a REALLY stupid sounding name?
"Hey what gun you got there!"
"Whall thats mah Purdner Protectur, it protects mah purdner"
its just a stupid name.
Pard.
Maybe its cool if you live in Texas... but yeah.
Shpadoinkel
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Thanks again MAX.
If I do run into this issue, would my best bet to be just purchasing an 870 receiver stud (online for about $3.50) and replacing the one that came with the PP? I don't have direct access to a grinder so I might get the part shipped to me before I can get to a friends house to grind it.
If I used an 870 receiver stud on my PP and then attached the Knoxx that was made for the 870, theoretically I would have to assume that it would work.
Also, after a quick googling, I came across a thread in which you (you seem to be answering questions everywhere, and I thank you for it) said that some Pardners use a metric stud. I assume from your suggestion above, that isn't the case with the PP.
If I do run into this issue, would my best bet to be just purchasing an 870 receiver stud (online for about $3.50) and replacing the one that came with the PP? I don't have direct access to a grinder so I might get the part shipped to me before I can get to a friends house to grind it.
If I used an 870 receiver stud on my PP and then attached the Knoxx that was made for the 870, theoretically I would have to assume that it would work.
Also, after a quick googling, I came across a thread in which you (you seem to be answering questions everywhere, and I thank you for it) said that some Pardners use a metric stud. I assume from your suggestion above, that isn't the case with the PP.
MAX100
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Some Protectors might have a Metric stud but probably not. Hawk Ind must have run out of the standard threaded studs and used Metric studs on some, who knows. They make shotguns for other countries as well. If it is Metric a Remington stud won't fit. You'll have to get a screw to fit it from the hardware store.
I like the name Protector but I don't care for the name Pardner.
GC
I like the name Protector but I don't care for the name Pardner.
GC
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China??
God forbid? Why do those among us refuse to buy Chinese guns because they are made in China but think nothing of buying pants , shirts, hats and shoes from China , is beyond my comprehension. Some of you need to check out your shoe labels or your rationale for not buying Chinese guns. My 2 cents.
God forbid? Why do those among us refuse to buy Chinese guns because they are made in China but think nothing of buying pants , shirts, hats and shoes from China , is beyond my comprehension. Some of you need to check out your shoe labels or your rationale for not buying Chinese guns. My 2 cents.
THE DARK KNIGHT
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I wonder how many people stating they won't buy CHinese goods shop at Wal Mart...
Anyways, I'm seriously looking at a PP for a beat-around shotgun
Anyways, I'm seriously looking at a PP for a beat-around shotgun
I have tossed this around in my head for a while, but the kicker for me is, a 870 wingmaster is just more versatile for the same money used, mostly cause of the variety of barrels. The Pardner Pump barrels are just... harder to get I think.
I just bought a 1969 <love that year!> 870 wingmaster in what I would call very decent condition with nice wood and 2 barrels for 220 bucks, I think its worth the extra 30 bucks really.
if I sold one of the barrels, I would be WAY under the PP cost.
I really think a used wingmaster is a better buy. for me at least.
Little more cred at the skeet / trap ranges too.
I just bought a 1969 <love that year!> 870 wingmaster in what I would call very decent condition with nice wood and 2 barrels for 220 bucks, I think its worth the extra 30 bucks really.
if I sold one of the barrels, I would be WAY under the PP cost.
I really think a used wingmaster is a better buy. for me at least.
Little more cred at the skeet / trap ranges too.
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