azredhawk44
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I wanted a new 1911 to replace my Charles Daly... I was a bit concerned over its long term reliability due to the extensive use of cast components in it. It fed and fired fine, but I wanted a truly reliable carry 1911.
I was looking at Springfield Armory. I have an M1A from them I am happy with, as well as an XD9. I decided to see what SA's competitors are doing, and started to look at the Sig series of 1911's. I had heard about the bumps in the early GSR's, but also that Sig had re-designed the product and brought all tooling in-house (some used to be done by Caspian), re-branded the product as the GSR Revolution, and had been running strong for over a year with a much improved track record.
I rented a GSR Revolution XO model and it shot and functioned wonderfully. I decided I liked the pistol, so I looked at what was in the case.
They had a whole bunch of the Revolutions in there, and the one I ultimately liked best was a GSR Revolution "Ricochet" model, black nitron slide and grey frame. What set it apart from the rest of the crowd was the lack of stipling on the front of the grip... I didn't like that on the XO. Just feels better smooth to me.
I bought the Ricohet on February 14th. It came with 2 ACT mags, 8rd, stamped "Novak" on them. I also had 3 Wilson Combat magazines that function wonderfully in my Daly 1911.
I didn't get to shoot it until that Friday, February 16th. My ammunition for the day? 100 rounds of Winchester White Box from walmart, 100 rounds of re-loaded 230gr ball using 4.6gr Titegroup and Berry's plated bullets, 50 rounds of Magtech 230gr ball, and 50 rounds of re-loaded 200gr Hornady XTP (can't remember the powder charge... it was around 5.0gr IIRC but don't quote me).
Regardless of the ammunition or magazines used, any of the ball ammunition gave about a 60% reliability rate when feeding. I could not get through an entire magazine without at least 2 jams. The feed ramp was too steep, and the bullet nose would smash against the top of the chamber. There were also horrible horizontal gashes in the brass from where the slide would try to ram the brass home, but couldn't overcome the obstruction at the feed ramp. Several bullets were actually seated into the brass deeper by this process. The XTP hollowpoints obviously functioned even worse... about a 20% feed reliability rate.
I left the gun with the gunsmith under the understanding that this was warranty work on a new gun. I also requested an ambidextrous safety to be installed since I was a lefty.
Got my Sig back yesterday.
I had short notice... I was planning on shooting my redhawk that evening anyways and I was on my way to the range, and I noticed I had voicemail on my phone. Turns out my gun was done.
I picked it up and inspected the work. I'm not really happy with it. "Cleaning and polishing the feed ramp and chamber" basically means that the gunsmith took a dremel to the feed ramp and made an uneven smooth patch about 1/16 of an inch wide on the frame's feed ramp. There wasn't anything wrong with the barrel and I didn't ask for the chamber to be polished. I could do that with my own dremel (I could also hack at the feed ramp on my own).
They wanted to charge me $85 for that dubious service. We had an argument about that. I won, on the basis I bought the gun at that store and it was a lemon they were fixing.
They then charged me $57 for the Ed Brown ambidextrous safety which seemed steep but I looked it up today and it is in the ballpark... and $65 to install it.
Not happy with this gunsmith at all.
Took the gun out on the range to see if his dremel work was acceptable. I bought one box of Magtech 45acp 230gr FMJ ammo since I didn't have any .45 with me. I got 1 fail to feed with a horizontal gash in the brass similar to the first symptoms, and 49 rounds fed and fired fine.
I have 200 rounds of new WWB and 200 handloads that I will try to run through it this weekend or next week... if they all go fine I can excuse the 1 misfeed.
I am so disappointed with the gunsmith at Scottsdale Gun Club. I had held them in very high regard since they are a Class III dealer and also do a lot of custom work on AR's and 1911's... but they did a piss-poor ramp job on my Sig. I can't recommend them to anyone.
I was looking at Springfield Armory. I have an M1A from them I am happy with, as well as an XD9. I decided to see what SA's competitors are doing, and started to look at the Sig series of 1911's. I had heard about the bumps in the early GSR's, but also that Sig had re-designed the product and brought all tooling in-house (some used to be done by Caspian), re-branded the product as the GSR Revolution, and had been running strong for over a year with a much improved track record.
I rented a GSR Revolution XO model and it shot and functioned wonderfully. I decided I liked the pistol, so I looked at what was in the case.
They had a whole bunch of the Revolutions in there, and the one I ultimately liked best was a GSR Revolution "Ricochet" model, black nitron slide and grey frame. What set it apart from the rest of the crowd was the lack of stipling on the front of the grip... I didn't like that on the XO. Just feels better smooth to me.
I bought the Ricohet on February 14th. It came with 2 ACT mags, 8rd, stamped "Novak" on them. I also had 3 Wilson Combat magazines that function wonderfully in my Daly 1911.
I didn't get to shoot it until that Friday, February 16th. My ammunition for the day? 100 rounds of Winchester White Box from walmart, 100 rounds of re-loaded 230gr ball using 4.6gr Titegroup and Berry's plated bullets, 50 rounds of Magtech 230gr ball, and 50 rounds of re-loaded 200gr Hornady XTP (can't remember the powder charge... it was around 5.0gr IIRC but don't quote me).
Regardless of the ammunition or magazines used, any of the ball ammunition gave about a 60% reliability rate when feeding. I could not get through an entire magazine without at least 2 jams. The feed ramp was too steep, and the bullet nose would smash against the top of the chamber. There were also horrible horizontal gashes in the brass from where the slide would try to ram the brass home, but couldn't overcome the obstruction at the feed ramp. Several bullets were actually seated into the brass deeper by this process. The XTP hollowpoints obviously functioned even worse... about a 20% feed reliability rate.
I left the gun with the gunsmith under the understanding that this was warranty work on a new gun. I also requested an ambidextrous safety to be installed since I was a lefty.
Got my Sig back yesterday.
I had short notice... I was planning on shooting my redhawk that evening anyways and I was on my way to the range, and I noticed I had voicemail on my phone. Turns out my gun was done.
I picked it up and inspected the work. I'm not really happy with it. "Cleaning and polishing the feed ramp and chamber" basically means that the gunsmith took a dremel to the feed ramp and made an uneven smooth patch about 1/16 of an inch wide on the frame's feed ramp. There wasn't anything wrong with the barrel and I didn't ask for the chamber to be polished. I could do that with my own dremel (I could also hack at the feed ramp on my own).
They wanted to charge me $85 for that dubious service. We had an argument about that. I won, on the basis I bought the gun at that store and it was a lemon they were fixing.
They then charged me $57 for the Ed Brown ambidextrous safety which seemed steep but I looked it up today and it is in the ballpark... and $65 to install it.
Not happy with this gunsmith at all.
Took the gun out on the range to see if his dremel work was acceptable. I bought one box of Magtech 45acp 230gr FMJ ammo since I didn't have any .45 with me. I got 1 fail to feed with a horizontal gash in the brass similar to the first symptoms, and 49 rounds fed and fired fine.
I have 200 rounds of new WWB and 200 handloads that I will try to run through it this weekend or next week... if they all go fine I can excuse the 1 misfeed.
I am so disappointed with the gunsmith at Scottsdale Gun Club. I had held them in very high regard since they are a Class III dealer and also do a lot of custom work on AR's and 1911's... but they did a piss-poor ramp job on my Sig. I can't recommend them to anyone.
