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New 9mm Bullet

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by MissouriBullet, Nov 3, 2009.

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  1. MissouriBullet

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    Any interest in the classic 9mm 115 RN Parabellum bullet? I ordered the mould set yesterday, hoping we could sell a bullet or two.

    I'm thinking this will be a popular bullet and have no idea why I waited 3 years to build out for this one. Our 125 grain RN 9mm bullet is our very best seller - out of nearly 50 bullets - and I should have long since figured out that Georg Luger's original design would probably be nearly as popular.

    Anyhow, we'll have it within a month or so (Magma continues to be backlogged on mould orders.)

    We're going to call this one "Parabellum." No contest on that name :)

    Brad
     
  2. Galil5.56

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    I'd rather see a 115 grain SWC sized .357" and .358", somthing along the lines of the Lee 105 keeping the nice square base. Tried 115 RN's, and in my experience prefer the 125's. Good luck with your continued success.
     
  3. Travis Two

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    www.pennbullets.com has a 115gr. SWC available in .357 or .358. Its an excellent shooter. Cuts very clean holes and is very accurate.
     
  4. freakshow10mm

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    Is this like the Slippery 9mm?
     

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  5. mongoose33

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    I'm waiting to run low on bullets so I can get some of the 9mm, and you have just made my life harder. If you only have one style there's only one bullet I have to work up loads for. Now you've made my life harder! Do I do 115 or 125?

    :)

    I guess I'll just get 1000 of each and see what works better. I really like the 200gr RNFP in .45.
     
  6. jard

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    I expect that your sales on the 124grainers will just drop when your sales of the 115 increase.
     
  7. Roccobro

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    I don't see that happening. But it certainly is possible.

    Justin
     
  8. MissouriBullet

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    That could easily happen, but it doesn't matter. The important thing is being able to provide exactly what someone wants. Adding another bullet is always a risk. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't. I have mould sets that produced bullets that have sold one box. But that one customer got what he wanted and he'll be back for more and eventually, others will want that bullet, too.

    So I don't see a downside to having another bullet in our line that is similar to another.

    Brad
     
  9. MissouriBullet

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    It looks just like that slippery thing!
     
  10. MissouriBullet

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    Magma doesn't make a mould set for that one :-(
     
  11. freakshow10mm

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    Sweet. My molds are a 135gr nominal. They feed in anything. It's a kick ass bullet. Seriously guys, this profile rocks. I run the heck out of this bullet in a fully automatic 9mm M16 at 675 rounds per minute.
     
  12. Galil5.56

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    True, and a 115 SWC "9mm" has always looked interesting to me... Always thought a "little H&G68" for 9mm would be great, and having seen this bullet for years via the link Travis Two provided, I wondered who made the mold?

    My .02, but a BB style taking away from not much bearing surface to begin with on a light cast bullet sized .356" can be problematic, especially considering all the potential groove diameters out there over the defacto .3555". My European brand 9mm's like sizing of .357-.358", and the more bearing surface the better. Always thought this Magma bullet looked like a good match:

    130Magma9mm.gif

    which is similar to the accurate Lee 125 2R I currently cast myself from WW's, that drops 128 grains. Nice accurate bullet, but the lube groove is a bit skimpy as shown via this drawing courtesy of TMT enterprises:

    Lee20Mold20356-125-2R2020125_gr.gif

    Again, best of luck with your business, and perhaps when I'm feeling a bit too lazy to cast my own/run out of metal I'll give your bullets "a shot". :)
     
  13. JA22

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    I, for one, will be ordering the 115 gr!

    Thanks!
     
  14. firstg19

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    i will also be ordering some, my local shop Graf's Reloading in St. Charles, MO, doesnt carry lead 115 grain in any style. It sure would be nice to see missouri bullet in there. ;)
     
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    Thats the attitude that keeps us coming back Brad. Great products are nothing without great customer service!
     
  16. jjohnson

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    I'd buy it

    Yep, the reason I buy the 124-125 cast 9mm is because the 115s aren't offered by many casters. I'd prefer the lighter weight and will be standing in the same line to buy some when you get your molds.

    One thing also mentioned here - about having the same bullet sized to .357 or .358 - I'd buy those, too. Awhile back I had one of your competitors size some 95-grain bullets for .380 sized to .3575 so I could use 'em for cowboy/plinking/short range target practice. I'll be buying those again, but if you were to offer one of the 9mm bullets "sized large" I'd buy some.

    You might consider using a "poll" here.

    Keep asking, Brad, you'll keep getting answers. :evil:
     
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    I buy (and shoot) a lot of cast 9mm bullets. I've bought at least 10K of the Missouri 124gr SmallBalls, and maybe as many as 20K.

    Problem is, the profile of the SmallBall bullet is untraditional (the shoulder is too wide) and won't work in a number of my pistols. My CZs and BHPs and 940s are the typical culprits that will NOT chamber a SmallBall profile, but there have been others as well. This thread has some of the back discussion on the issue.

    Right now, I have to run two 9mm cast loads - one with SmallBall for some pistols and another using a Dardas or Kead bullet for the more finicky pistols.

    I am all in favor of Missouri offering a cast 9mm design that will mimic the traditional 9mm bullet shape.
     
  18. jjohnson

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    Choices are Good

    Yeah, funny how most of us handloaders like to play with different bullets but would laugh at women who like to have more than a couple pairs of shoes. :D

    Choices are great to have. Being tinkerers by nature, I'd suspect many of us would buy something new just to experiment with.
     
  19. Buckshot Bill

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    Howdy, Brad. I have an FEG PJK-9HP Browning Hi-power clone that is finicky about what bullet shapes it likes. Actually, the 115 GR. RN. bullet is the only one that will feed in mine, but it seems to work very well. TC shapes do not-in mine. So, yes, I'd also be interested in you offering a 115 GR. RN. Thanks, Buckshot Bill
     
  20. MissouriBullet

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    Finally!

    Ok, we got the 9mm 115 grain mould set in a couple of weeks ago and I made time today, finally, to run some of them. They're cute as can be! Georg Luger would be proud (in a stuffy way, I'm sure.)

    So, here's the deal: It took a long time to get this bullet to market so we're going to blast them out the door. There is an introductory special on this bullet for you guys who want it. Initially they will be available only in thousand-lot quantities and we're going to price them - for a week or so, only - at $45.00/thousand. This is the best price you're going to find, I think. Afterwards the price will be $26.00 or so per 500. So this is the deal.

    Look for them on the website on about Tuesday.

    Their name (of course!) is "Parabellum."

    Brad
     
  21. R.W.Dale

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    got any pics?
     
  22. MissouriBullet

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    Jeepers Krochus, give a guy a break! :)

    I just cast some today, no sizing crew on site today (it's SUNDAY!!) to get them sized until tomorrow. You'd want a pic with a nice blue lube ring around the bullets, right? Well, wait 'til Tuesday and the photo will be on the website.

    Thank you for your question.

    Brad
     
  23. thelaststand

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    YOu better get busy casting these because I'm about to order a lot :D
     
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    By the way, how many can you put into one shipment cost of 10.85?
     
  25. MissouriBullet

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    I'm taking the rest of the day off! You can't make me go back out there!! I've been casting since 5:45 this morning. Do I know how to enjoy myself, or what?
     
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