New B/P shooter what will I need?????

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Hey Guys from Cabelas I ordered a Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 $169.00 and free shipping WOO HOO!!!!and 451 bullet mold, some felt wads. Other then powder caps and balls what is it that you use. oh yeah kinda jumped the gun wanted to get the mold in with the free shipping is .451 going to work for me.
Now I'm avid reloader and shooter but never B/P any info would be good.
Thank's
 
I don't yet have that model, but I believe the .451 is on the money. The key is to get rb's a little wider than the cylinders so some lead will be shaved off evenly around the edges.

You'll need a loading stand of course. There are some sticky threads here with the rundown. I've bought a variety of caps to try on the C&B's and it seems each is different. Should be a tight fit but not too tight.
 
you will run into some personal opinions, that very on what size ball to use. I have .454 and only a very small ring is shaved off. Not enough for the ring to be complete even. I have some .457 s I have been planning to try. You have to find a balance, the more lead shaved off the more of a flat bearing surface the ball will have to grip the rifling. Also the more lead shaved off the harder it is on your loading lever.
 
The factory .451 balls should fit the Pietta Remingtons. The factory .451 balls usually do get swagged into the chamber when rammed, and wads or over powder cards can be placed under the ball for additional protection against a chain fire.
And your chambers can be precisely measured to determine their exact specifications.
There's no doubt that the .454 balls will fit tighter.
I don't know about the size of the balls that the .451 mold will cast. It depends on the purity of the lead and the exact specifications of the mold. Molds are often slightly oversized, but can also be slightly undersized as well.
There are ways to fix undersized molds, and also if using impure lead the balls will end up being slightly oversized.
If loading off the frame using a table top loading press, then using .454 balls or larger doesn't require much of any extra effort.
But if loading with the frame mounted loading lever than the amount of loading effort is a matter of personal choice.
As well, there may or may not be a slight accuracy difference between the 2 different diameter balls. That's up to you to decide which size ball is preferred.
And don't forget to buy a revolver nipple wrench, or make one yourself as shown in this thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=578275
 
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.454 or even .457 may have been a better choice. see how that mold goes, you can always just sell or trade it.

Powder flask http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/69/2/FLASK-REMIN
capper (ive got the capper that holds 100 caps but i dont think it works with the remington without modding the guns cylinder) http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/3/1/CAPPER-P
Nipple wrench http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/65/1/NW-130
This comes in handy (decapper and nipple pick in one) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/748493/thompson-center-4-way-combo-tool-brass
 
Howdy

Have you ever cast bullets before? Sometimes it takes a while to get everything right.

I strongly suggest you buy a box of .451 and a box of .454 balls and try them first. Once you figure out which size is best for your gun, you can try casting.

Hint: they don't always drop out of the mold the size it says.
 
True, there is a bit involved with casting. even if you go a basic setup with a iron pot, gas burner and ladel it will still be a bit of cost outlay. I cast for everything, 357 9mm 45colt 12gauge etc so i save a bit, but if you are only casting roundballs and its a 2 cavity, the time, money and effort would probably be better spent on a visit to the gun shop for a couple of boxes of balls.
 
Your going to love shooting your new army Remington revolver! Anyhow, I totally agree about the casting.For my 1858 replica I have a Lee mold that is supposed to be for a .454 yet it casts a .456 which is good because the loader shaves a good bit off the ball for decent loading.I'm happy with the mold for the consistency it puts out.You might want to try another mold if your not happy with the one you ordered.or maybe it will work out fine. If you ever want a Lee mold,they are relatively cheap. -ron-
 
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