New Blue Python BROKE! ugghh

oooh yeah! I knew what I was getting into with buying New Colt. It’s Cool man!

you know what’s really cool! my Smith & Western Model 36 no dash! Now that’s a Quality Gun! was messing with it last night and admiring the quality and craftsmanship
I will probably only ever own 1 Colt revolver. That’s my Detective Special. I had wanted one since I was a kid watching old police and detective shows.
I know this much, I will never buy another S&W Perf. Ctr revolver. I had one go around with them. I will never have another.

Gratuitous Photo:
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Of course I am preaching to the choir, but any decent gun should never have to go back to the factory. Where do people come up with this BS?

I hate to say it, but people born after, let’s say 1980, may have this opinion because, quite honestly, many companies just do not put out the quality of products they once did. I think they learned from the computer and software that “beta testing” products for a manufacturer is “Okay”…OR the other manufacturers learned this technique or process from the computer and software companies. Either way, it’s a damn shame that inferior products have become the norm.

When I had an issue with my Ruger SFAR a manager at my gun club said “Keep sending it back, Ruger will make it good.”
My response, which raised his eyebrows, “Ruger should make it GOOD in the first place.”
Luckily it has only gone back once.

I do understand that guns are mechanical devices and mechanical devices break, but they shouldn’t break because there was no QA worth a darn at the factory.
All I have to do is look around my shop and see the quality of the people who are LEFT out there for us to hire. The old German gentleman that iI apprenticed under would be rolling in his grave. I'm sure that's the case with alot of manufacturers these days, Colt, Ruger, Smith, etc included. Unfortunately it is what it is.
 
All I have to do is look around my shop and see the quality of the people who are LEFT out there for us to hire. The old German gentleman that iI apprenticed under would be rolling in his grave. I'm sure that's the case with alot of manufacturers these days, Colt, Ruger, Smith, etc included. Unfortunately it is what it is.
I do not doubt that you are right.

In 2018 I returned to a job where I had worked from ‘89-‘05. It was a major transit agency on the west coast. I worked in rail transit. When I left that agency had its stuff together. When I went back in 2018 I encountered an agency that regressed in knowledge and capability 30+ years.
Even with 30 years of experience under my belt I was treated like I was inferior. An idiot. Why? Because I was in my late 50’s and everything I said was doubted, questioned or roundly discarded.
At first I was baffled then one day I decided to do as I pleased and teach my crews the right way to do things. My guys liked me. My executive mgmt did not.
My plan was to stay until 2025. I left July 4, 2022. Independence Day.

Okay, enough of that.

Here’s a trio of fun:
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I will probably only ever own 1 Colt revolver. That’s my Detective Special. I had wanted one since I was a kid watching old police and detective shows.
I know this much, I will never buy another S&W Perf. Ctr revolver. I had one go around with them. I will never have another.

Gratuitous Photo:
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I would say the Model 36 is as good! but both are Very Quality Stuff!!
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All I have to do is look around my shop and see the quality of the people who are LEFT out there for us to hire. The old German gentleman that iI apprenticed under would be rolling in his grave. I'm sure that's the case with alot of manufacturers these days, Colt, Ruger, Smith, etc included. Unfortunately it is what it is.
Kinda why they all had to go to MIM and CNC. I hate to see what the future holds for employers. Problem I see, is quality and hard work, once a priority for employees, has been thrown out the window. Employers themselves are to blame because they no longer see quality as a priority. They see quantity as the priority. Everything is now considered disposable. Why make it last, and decrease your demand? All one has to do is look at the life expectancy of appliances, HVAC systems and even homes themselves anymore to see customers don;t want them to last.......because they will replace them in 5 years anyway with something new. I see the same with domestically made firearms. While many of us still shoot grampa's old SxS, many folks out there always want the newest and the baddest out there, no matter if it has a painted finish and plastic. In 4 or 5 years when something else comes out, like a computer, it will be outdated and looked down on.
 
Kinda why they all had to go to MIM and CNC. I hate to see what the future holds for employers. Problem I see, is quality and hard work, once a priority for employees, has been thrown out the window. Employers themselves are to blame because they no longer see quality as a priority. They see quantity as the priority. Everything is now considered disposable. Why make it last, and decrease your demand? All one has to do is look at the life expectancy of appliances, HVAC systems and even homes themselves anymore to see customers don;t want them to last.......because they will replace them in 5 years anyway with something new. I see the same with domestically made firearms. While many of us still shoot grampa's old SxS, many folks out there always want the newest and the baddest out there, no matter if it has a painted finish and plastic. In 4 or 5 years when something else comes out, like a computer, it will be outdated and looked down on.
My parents recently retired from a textile mill in North Carolina. Knitting machines, they tried to train young folks to replace them, none could do the set up and change over jobs on these 50+ yo machines. So I know what you’re saying, Automation is the future of manufacturing.
 
every manufacturer throws out a defective gun every now and then.

Circling back to Marky Mark buying the wrong pistols... instead of a .41MAG...

I bought a S&W 657 .41MAG Classic Hunter many years ago... the first release of them, so... unfluted cylinder, full-length underlug, 6.5" barrel. What I didn't see was the barrel and forcing cone looked like it was cut with a hacksaw by a drunk piano player... the off side gap was over .020". Not only did you have to wear safety glasses, but gloves as well. Back to S&W it went....

What I got back was a fantastic shooting pistol... I put the first 5 rounds into one hole...

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So... let Colt have their pistol back, let them work on it, and then see how it does when you get it back. What seems like a glaring lack of quality control might be fixed quite readily by the factory... and then you'll have your Colt.... even if you do trade it in for a .41MAG.
 
I've held the opinion for some time that manufacturers of all products have decided that that replacing the Quality Control Department with end users is far more cost effective than paying people to do the testing.
Long time before I buy a New Colt! now Used Colt is a different story
 
Circling back to Marky Mark buying the wrong pistols... instead of a .41MAG...

I bought a S&W 657 .41MAG Classic Hunter many years ago... the first release of them, so... unfluted cylinder, full-length underlug, 6.5" barrel. What I didn't see was the barrel and forcing cone looked like it was cut with a hacksaw by a drunk piano player... the off side gap was over .020". Not only did you have to wear safety glasses, but gloves as well. Back to S&W it went....

What I got back was a fantastic shooting pistol... I put the first 5 rounds into one hole...

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So... let Colt have their pistol back, let them work on it, and then see how it does when you get it back. What seems like a glaring lack of quality control might be fixed quite readily by the factory... and then you'll have your Colt.... even if you do trade it in for a .41MAG.
you .41 Mag Club Members are like Crows! Smart & Annoying! 😊

I’m looking at a .41 Mag Freedom Arms!

Keeping the New Blue Colt as a reminder of “they don’t make them like they use too!”
 
Hate to say it but Colt ain't Colt any more. The original Colt, workers and Prix have gone the way of the Bison. Sorry. I have only two Colts left. A second model Sport Woods man and my late brother's Scout. No more.
Now owned by a Czech company (good) with most stuff made in Turkey (not so good).
 
Back in the day, a new 1970s Colt Trooper 357 taught me to buy S&W.
Been there done that I had one of those also it was a piece of junk it was at Colt more than I had it. I finally sold it to a guy that was a Colt fanatic took that money and bought a used blue S&W 586 in 357, then a 627 Performance Center , then a S&W 686 and a Taurus Tracker in 357 sold that Tracker a couple years later for what I paid for it that was 20 years ago the guy still has it and has never had a problem with it. All my revolvers are S&W, Ruger and a Taurus Raging Bull in 44 magnum. Sadly no more Colts for me especially now.
 
Been there done that I had one of those also it was a piece of junk it was at Colt more than I had it. I finally sold it to a guy that was a Colt fanatic took that money and bought a used blue S&W 586 in 357, then a 627 Performance Center , then a S&W 686 and a Taurus Tracker in 357 sold that Tracker a couple years later for what I paid for it that was 20 years ago the guy still has it and has never had a problem with it. All my revolvers are S&W, Ruger and a Taurus Raging Bull in 44 magnum. Sadly no more Colts for me especially now.
I need to finally try a 686! they all feel good in the showroom!
 
I've only owned one Colt revolver, a 4" blued Python made in '71, I think. It's the only revolver I've ever owned that actually broke a part and had to see a gunsmith to get fixed. I've had a couple of guns need springs, but they didn't break anything. My gun, bought used, broke the hand/pawl soon after I bought it at a LGS "El Cid" in Las Vegas. It was very pretty, but to be honest, I just didn't love it as much as my DW 15-2 or my S&W 28-2, so when I got a good offer, off it went. I've never been tempted to get another one. 28-2's? I have 3. DW 15-2/715's? I have 3 of those, too. Oddly, I like the looks of the blued Python and I'm a SS/Satin nickel freak.
 
you .41 Mag Club Members are like Crows! Smart & Annoying! 😊

I’m looking at a .41 Mag Freedom Arms!

Keeping the New Blue Colt as a reminder of “they don’t make them like they use too!”
They never did. I had a 38 M&P not too long ago that the S/N indicated was made in 1916. On the butt was a factory mark indicating that it was returned to the factory in 6/16. No idea why, I'm too cheap to spring for a letter. And it locked up on me after a few rounds in 2024, so I guess not much changed over the years. Dealer gave me my money back.


I need to finally try a 686! they all feel good in the showroom!
I resisted a 686 for years, actually from the time they were introduced until six months or so ago. I finally broke down and bought one of the "bad" ones. You know the ones. A -6 with MIM parts, ugly rubber grips, and (GASP) the lock. :what: It might be the best revolver I've ever fired. It's right there with my Python, and maybe, just maybe a little better, but I suspect someone layed magic hands on it. The D/A trigger I just have to think about it and it fires. The Python is stock out of the box and is close. Really, Really close.

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I've replaced the factory rubber grips with a set of Altamont Ropers round/square grips. The Python edges it out in looks still but it's a lot closer now, Shooting is about even. Which one I like best depens on which I shot last. I tell myself, I need to take them both to the range one day when I'm feeling good and shoot them side by side, but then I think..."Why bother? I like them both." Just keep liking them both and don't worry about it.
 
They never did. I had a 38 M&P not too long ago that the S/N indicated was made in 1916. On the butt was a factory mark indicating that it was returned to the factory in 6/16. No idea why, I'm too cheap to spring for a letter. And it locked up on me after a few rounds in 2024, so I guess not much changed over the years. Dealer gave me my money back.



I resisted a 686 for years, actually from the time they were introduced until six months or so ago. I finally broke down and bought one of the "bad" ones. You know the ones. A -6 with MIM parts, ugly rubber grips, and (GASP) the lock. :what: It might be the best revolver I've ever fired. It's right there with my Python, and maybe, just maybe a little better, but I suspect someone layed magic hands on it. The D/A trigger I just have to think about it and it fires. The Python is stock out of the box and is close. Really, Really close.

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I've replaced the factory rubber grips with a set of Altamont Ropers round/square grips. The Python edges it out in looks still but it's a lot closer now, Shooting is about even. Which one I like best depens on which I shot last. I tell myself, I need to take them both to the range one day when I'm feeling good and shoot them side by side, but then I think..."Why bother? I like them both." Just keep liking them both and don't worry about it.
I’ll get my Python Fix! was examine it and my loads, my cartridges are well in SAMMI spec. But that cylinder is messed up. Gap move when hammer is back to no gap. End shake is bad. Latch is all messed up.

back to New Colt it goes! SEE YA!

I bought about 20+ old classic revolvers last year. The only problem I had (ones I’ve shot) was a very early Model 10 on DA, if I didn’t let the trigger reset all the way to the forward.

But so far most my New Production revolvers have given me problems.

Uberti 1873 10mm. Lock Stop Broke before even firing it

Ruger GP100 MC, good gun but I didn't like the springs or grip ( not rugers fault)

New Blue Python is a HOT MESS

Uberti 1858 C&B Stop Lock dropped early, they say it was in spec
 
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