New Colt Series 70 at the range

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Finally had the chance last week to get my new Series 70 to the range. In short, it's a runner. 100 rounds of S&B 230gr. FMJ and 100 rounds of Win White Box 230gr. FMJ have put it on its way to being broken in.

Here's a few things that I noted in the session.

- The 7 round Colt mags that came with the gun were more reliable that the Wilson 8 rounders that I had. The Colts ran without a single bobble. The Wilsons developed a few feed problems along the way. In one case, I had the last round in the magazine somehow eject itself completely out of the gun without being chambered. Also, the 1 stovepipe I had was also with a Wilson magazine. Looks like I'll be picking up some Wilson 7 rounders to replace the 8 rounders that I have. 1 extra round is not worth malfunctions.

- Accuracy was much better than expected. The gun is fitted well and is tight. The sights work well and are easily discernable and easy to focus on. Best group overall was with the S&B and can be seen in the attached picture. That was at 25 yards offhand. I'll have to take it back out with some better ammo and bench rest it to see how it'll perform.

- Ejection pattern has me a bit worried. Most casings were ejected up and back at an angle about 7 inches to the right of my right shoulder. However, I caught about 15 - 20 casings on my baseball cap and safety glasses. Also, the ejection port is beating the living heck out of my brass. Both of these issues are negligable though as I've intended from the get-go to send the pistol off to have the ejection port lowered and flared and to have the ejector and extractor replaced with Wilson or Brown versions. I'm also probably going to get the gun refinished. Colt did an excellent job on the deep blue job. It's absolutely beautiful. The problem is I find that I'm babying it. I find that I'm meticulously wiping fingerprints and smudges off the gun. Not most desirable situation for a workhorse gun. I'll probably look at getting a Black T finish put on or possibly even have it parkerized.

Overall, I'm very satisfied. It was rather more expensive than I had hoped for, but it's a quality gun. Having grown up shooting my grandfather's military 1911A1 has left me with "all the right moves" for this series 70. I actually prefer the normal grip safety, short trigger, and spur hammer. I may have the thumb safety and slide lock replaced with slightly larger models, but both are perfectly functional as is.

I think I've got myself a winner.
 
Congratulations. The new Colts are nice. I had the same ejection problems with mine. You can probably tension the extractor or as you said replace with a Wilson or Brown. (I hear the Browns are so good that they really do not require any tensioning before dropping in, but I have not personally used one.)

I also babied the finish on mine. The only solution to that is to get one of the new Stainless S70's. That finish is, of course, more forgiving or more easily buffed.

WJR
 
If Colt would lower the ejection port of their 70's like they did with the 80's I would buy one. Bevelled magwell would be nice too, but the ejection port is much more important to me and I think most other people. I wear safety glasses at the range, but I don't want hot brass flying in my eye in a self defense situation. Never have to worry about that with the Hi-Power.

Oh yea, it would be nice if Colt would lose the grip safety, but you know that will never happen. :rolleyes:
 
I've never had a problem with a stock 1911 grip safety, much less any of the beavertail ones. It's one more bit of insurance against an accidental discharge. Maybe it comes from firing a stock WW2 issue 1911A1 for the last 17 years.

To each their own though.
 
Oh yea, it would be nice if Colt would lose the grip safety, but you know that will never happen.

Are you talking about replacing it with a beavertail?

If so, why should Colt? EVERY other 1911 maker's standard guns come with beavertails, commander hammers, and such. Most have beveled magazine well and front cocking serrations, too. I prefer the classic looks of the Colt, augmented quite nicely by the little prancing pony on there.

If you want all of that other stuff, a Kimber or a Springfield should suit you much better. Or, you know, a Wilson, or just about every other 1911 maker, for that matter. Colt even has a couple models like this. Check out their Gunsite model, for example.
 
No, I think beavertails are "ghey" and they get in my "whey".

I said "lose the grip safety" and make it like the Browning Hi-Power, not replace it with a beavertail. The only grip safeties I can stand are the USGI style ones, but I'd much rather do without altogether.

It's one more bit of insurance against an accidental discharge.

Not necessary IMO and wouldn't even be in the design today if the military hadn't requested it so many years ago.
 
OH-h. Hmm..well, that would require some pretty hefty retooling, I think. I don't think ANY 1911 maker has tried that, with the exception of that one C&R pistol from South America, I believe...

And as I understand it, the military requested the MANUAL safety years ago. Browning originally designed the pistol to have only the grip safety, I've read.
 
Browning originally designed the pistol to have only the grip safety, I've read.

As far as I know Browning designed it with only the manual safety and the military requested the grip safety. But I could be wrong. :D

I'm sure our best and brightest can figure out how to make a single action .45 auto without a grip safety. :D
 
If Colt would lower the ejection port of their 70's like they did with the 80's I would buy one.

Whats the sense in coming out again with the Series 70 then. Colt made this for the people who collect and want a true Series 70. If you want a lowered ejection port and so forth buy the Series 80.
 
I'll second getting rid of the grip safety.


IMO, Colt should lower the port on the series 70. I never viewed it as a collectable like their period correct WWII and their new 1911.
 
Actually, I bought the new series 70 because I wanted a "stock" 1911 platform to build up a good 1911A1 without having to deal with the firing pin safety business. Overall, I probably would have bought a stock Kimber if they hadn't gone to the firing pin safety on their series 2 guns and I definately don't want one now with an external extractor. I've been detail stripping a military 1911A1 since I was 19, and the firing pin safety parts just add to the aggravation level.

Overall, I don't plan on doing much with the Colt. The existing sights are perfectly adequate. I prefer a spur hammer, normal grip safety, arched mainspring housing, and short 1911A1 trigger.

The only plans I have are to have the ejection port lowered and flared, the thumb safety and slide release replaced with slightly larger models, replacing the ejector and extractor with either Wilson or Brown models, and the gun refinished in either standard parkerizing or possibly a black teflon type finish.
 
Lowering the ejection port is easy to do yourself if you know how to handle a file. A Dremel is usually used, but I don't want to advocate something that can slip and walk across that nice finish on the slide.
 
Sorry, but I'm not into buying $900 guns and then having to cut them up and refinish them, (move the extractor?), void the warranty, ect. Call me crazy, but it's just not for me.
 
I'm seriously considering a BALLESTER MOLINA. Does anybody know if they accept standard 1911 mags? I'm searching on TFL right now trying to find the answer.

What is their ejection port like?

These are C&R guns right?

Which surplus dealer has the best ones right now?

Hmm....ok it looks like it takes normal 1911 mags....:D
 
Ya know, there really isn't anything wrong with the Series 80 trigger, and the firing pin blocking safety does add an extra bit of protection against NDs. I had a Series 80 Gold Cup that had one of the nicest triggers of any 1911 I've owned. It did require a trigger job, but it can be done.
 
Well supposedly the Ballister Molina's safety pushes the hammer back and off of the sear completely. Sounds like a much nicer and more reliable (and less problematic) setup than a firing pin safety. IMHO :D
 
Hmm, good point, but does the Ballister use an inertial firing pin? If so, I think you'd have to drop it from about 20 feet in the air and have it hit muzzle first to cause a discharge from firing pin force. That's not something I worry about. But for those that do, series 80 is where it's at I guess....
 
If so, I think you'd have to drop it from about 20 feet in the air and have it hit muzzle first to cause a discharge from firing pin force.

Nope, even the good ol' series 70 will do it from about 3 feet. (ALL Colt O frames have always been made with inertia firing pins.) I have seen it happen.
 
I have to field strip my 80 series Colts on Saturday night, so I can go to church on Sunday and be forgiven for my cussing the damned tiny parts that need tweezers to install(and a magnifying visor for me!). I can imagine doing that in a foxhole ! BTW I CAN fieldstrip 70 and earlier guns fully and back together in about 10minutes or less, down to the last pin. Also I don't like the idea of cutting notches into the puny firing pin of a 1911, but I guess the little gimmicks work OK and I don't think it makes much diference in trigger pulls. Of course I used to pull out the little sear springs on Gold Cups because they are too puny for my taste. Funny once you do a correct trigger job on a 1911 they last forever with out the tiny stuff.Only Colts I have the 80's trinkets left in are Officer's models.:cuss: :neener::cuss:
 
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