New credit card code for gun shops

[shoobe01]

I don't know how because they aren't per register but per business. All of a Walmart submits their transactions through one system. So all should be 5310: Discount stores.

Some pad sites are different. So, the gas station at Costco is listed as a gas station not a discount store.

Though the Costco one is fun in another way, where codes can be weird. Their gas is 5542 for "automated fuel dispensers" instead of 5541 "Service Stations (with or without Ancillary services)" so your cash back on gas purchases probably won't count Costco.

I suspect aside from the gun counter at Cabelas not getting the MCC code for Gun Store, that any number of stores might add more general sporting goods to mask this coding.

Cash is already on the way out here. Increasing numbers of merchants won't take it.

They can try that, but it's becoming illegal. No federal law but some new state and local ones, some court rulings on them, etc. For the unbanked and underbanked, but has the effect that anyone can do untraceable cash purchases. I suspect it'll spread.

 

[lionking]

Just another step on how things are getting very authoritarian. The far left have found out they can bully and intimidate corporations and business to partner up and go around the bill of rights. The far left have found away to get around the bill of rights that largely ties their hands in government. They have found out they can do it also regarding the 1st amendment and free speech like with Twitter, Facebook and so on intimidating to censor or just having leftist friendly CEO's support it all. They also used those tactics to shun those who wouldn't vaccinate. Then there is what Trudeau did to the finances and accounts of supporters of truck and farmer protests.

 

[lionking]

THIS is what I care about….

From the linked article “Today’s announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal – and report them to law enforcement,”

Who decides what is a ‘personal’ arsenal?

What will be the definition of an arsenal in numerical terms? 2 guns…5…10+?

What is considered too many guns in a particular timeframe?

What is the algorithm that will be used to trigger contact of authorities?

I’ve seen news articles where arsenal was used for around 3-5 guns and maybe 1,500 bullets…

The most guns I’ve ever purchased in one day is three I believe. I probably stopped there because if I remember right there was nothing else in the store I was interested in.

I’m heading to a large local antique gun show this month and can see myself beating that record if the right firearms are there. It’s very Unlikely but possible.

The upside to all of this is I know if I’m going to a gun show or store I will need to carry cash from now on. That will keep me from going overboard on additional impulse buys.

We all know who they deem extremists, Biden made that clear last week with his red ambient background.

 

[Rubone]

Just another step on how things are getting very authoritarian. The far left have found out they can bully and intimidate corporations and business to partner up and go around the bill of rights. The far left have found away to get around the bill of rights that largely ties their hands in government. They have found out they can do it also regarding the 1st amendment and free speech like with Twitter, Facebook and so on intimidating to censor or just having leftist friendly CEO's support it all. They also used those tactics to shun those who wouldn't vaccinate. Then there is what Trudeau did to the finances and accounts of supporters of truck and farmer protests.

You could easily change far left to far right and the message is exactly the same. Control.....

 

[lionking]

You could easily change far left to far right and the message is exactly the same. Control.....

I could, if the current state of affairs were that. But it isn't for the most, the far left are who are pushing most of the authoritarian control and I define the far left different than I do what is define a liberal, even slight left of center liberals are saying wait this is too much. When the right goes all out "Handmaid's tale" well then get back to me and we can call them extremists also.

We all know this credit card thing is to register and deny gun owners, just like the 87,000 new IRS agents will go after gun stores and such more than others.

 

[old lady new shooter]

the Costco one is fun in another way, where codes can be weird. Their gas is 5542 for "automated fuel dispensers" instead of 5541 "Service Stations (with or without Ancillary services)" so your cash back on gas purchases probably won't count Costco.

I always buy gas at Costco, and always get the gas station discount.

 

[12Bravo20]

Cash is already on the way out here. Increasing numbers of merchants won't take it.

And if they refuse cash (or any method of payment) then you can legally walk out with your stuff since the merchant refused payment.

I did just that at the beginning of the plannedemic the the local Dollar General stores put up signs stating no cash due to a shortage. When they refused my cash, I informed them that since they refused money that is legal tender that I could legally walk out with said merchandise. Needless to say they changed their tuner real quick and accepted my cash as payment.

 

[jmr40]

None of the smaller gun shops I visit use scanners. It is all done by hand. I almost never make purchases from big box stores where inventory is kept electronically. I have always paid cash at smaller stores anyway. I can almost always get a discount. Most local stores will eat the tax if you pay in cash. But if I were to use a card they can and would show the purchase as something other than a gun.

The same tactic can be used to get around excessive taxes on gun purchases. The seller can sell you a candy bar for $600 and the rifle for $1. You pay normal tax on the $600 candy bar and the excessive gun tax on the $1 rifle.

The biggest target of this is to track on-line purchases where all payments are electronic. The anti-gun crowd simply doesn't understand how this works. They are convinced criminals are buying on-line and having guns sent directly to their homes. They think this will eliminate something that doesn't exist.

 

[DoubleMag]

OK if I buy gift cards via CC# and give them away for holiday, birthday. Then that person uses them for whatever, how does that track me? Or perhaps I receive the gift card from someone else? Cabela's, Scheels, Brownills?

Now to be clear, this isn't one of those I lost everything in a boating accident posts. No Sir, no way.

 

[tarosean]

We all know who they deem extremists, Biden made that clear last week with his red ambient background.

Definitely no fan of his. However, you might want to remove the tin foil hat once in a while.

 

[James K2020]

If you are worried about being 'tracked' from the government for your weapons purchases, then why are you on this open forum displaying all the guns you don't want 'them' to know about?
I've been fingerprinted and Life Scanned more times than a hardened criminal for my purchases and former employment. A little late now.

 

[Jim Watson]

Can the Feds track a specific gun from a credit card code? Not yet.
Can the Feds track a specific gun from a NICS check? Not yet.
Can the Feds track a specific gun from bulk dealer records? Not yet.

Can the Feds track a specific gun by combining multiple data bases? Hmmm. If not now, pretty soon.

 

[Lennyjoe]

If you are worried about being 'tracked' from the government for your weapons purchases, then why are you on this open forum displaying all the guns you don't want 'them' to know about?
I've been fingerprinted and Life Scanned more times than a hardened criminal for my purchases and former employment. A little late now.

Yea we’ll it’s more of the control and tracking aspect people disagree with.

 

[aaaaa]

And if they refuse cash (or any method of payment) then you can legally walk out with your stuff since the merchant refused payment.

I did just that at the beginning of the plannedemic the the local Dollar General stores put up signs stating no cash due to a shortage. When they refused my cash, I informed them that since they refused money that is legal tender that I could legally walk out with said merchandise. Needless to say they changed their tuner real quick and accepted my cash as payment.

"There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise."
https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm

 

[12Bravo20]

I'll just leave this here

 

[Seedy Character]

I'll just leave this here

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EXACTLY!


Back in my younger days, Friday night and needing gas. Gathered up $6 in pennies, in Zip-lock bag.

Went to convenience and got 10 gals.
Went inside and sat the bag on counter. Clerk refused. I said that is LEGAL GUBMINT MONEY. HE REFUSED. I say, " OK, grab bag and start to walk out. Clerk hollers at Cop getting coffee that I am stealing gas.
Cop says, "nope, he tried to pay, you refused."

I kept walking. He came a running.

 

[Robert]

This has wandered far into the weeds. There is simply too many non THR posts to leave this one open.