New Deer rifle - 30-06 or .270 and Brand

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If you are already finding things you don't like about the Browning action steer clear. Once you cycle the bolt on a Sako or Tikka you will forget about the Browning.

Sako and Tikka are also guaranteed to shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with quality factory ammo.

Mine does better than that.
 
Anyone know anything about the hard upward bolt handle on the Browning?
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The action of lifting the bolt is what cocks the firing pin. If you life the bolt handle again with the rifle cocked it will lift much easier. It will loosen up a hair with use but will be rather stiff while breaking in.
 
The action of lifting the bolt is what cocks the firing pin. If you life the bolt handle again with the rifle cocked it will lift much easier. It will loosen up a hair with use but will be rather stiff while breaking in.
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So it will always be stiff?


I know it cocks the rifle, how come everyone else's is so smooth, but Browning's is so stiff?

It's smooth to a point and then it hits a hard spot of resistance.

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Marine;

I've not handled the new Browning X-bolt, but the foloowing is what I surmise: The Brit Enfields are the common cock-on-opening that I know about. There may be others, but it's not a common operating method. So, if the X-bolt is indeed a cock-on-open, it's always going to be stiff on opening as you're compressing the firing pin spring. Most others compress that spring when the bolt closes.

900F
 
Like I said I don't know much about the x-bolts. I have fired a few A-bolts and have even cosidered purchasing one. I did not think the bolt lift was all that bad. My savage rifles are stiffer than the browning I fired. There may be some goop in the bolt left over from manufacturing making it stiff. Which will go away with proper cleaning and lube. Other wise your option is to replace the factory spring and firing pin with a titanium pin and a lighter spring.

I looked at a A-bolt 3 weeks or so ago in a shop and it was really pretty smooth on bolt throw.
 
Marine;

I've not handled the new Browning X-bolt, but the foloowing is what I surmise: The Brit Enfields are the common cock-on-opening that I know about. There may be others, but it's not a common operating method. So, if the X-bolt is indeed a cock-on-open, it's always going to be stiff on opening as you're compressing the firing pin spring. Most others compress that spring when the bolt closes.

900F
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Thanks, that helps a lot.

It's hard, I like the bolt throw of all of the Browning, but the Browning has the better grip, which is slimmer and more comfortable. I suppose I'll be holding and carrying the rifle more then I will be racking the bolt.

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check out the Weatherby Vanguard in ss. it comes in many calibers & even a sub-moa model. very well made & accurate for the price. as far as caliber, i think the 270 would do anything you're asking. plus you'd have some cash left over for a nice scope. i love mine & it shoots 100 gr to 140 gr to virtually the same place. the 270 has killed a bunch of elk & a whole lot more deer.
 
I'd buy a Stevens200 in .270, put it in the Choate Stock of your choice and still have $ left towards a quality scope. The Stevens 200 is an amazing value, I saw them on sale for $269 at MC sports yesterday.
 
I'd buy a Stevens200 in .270, put it in the Choate Stock of your choice and still have $ left towards a quality scope. The Stevens 200 is an amazing value, I saw them on sale for $269 at MC sports yeterday.
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My dad just bought one of these two days ago. LOL



This is the first rifle I've ever bought and probably will be for a long time, I don't mind spending as much as I can afford to get the best I can afford.


Deerhunting is the biggest hunting event of the year for me.


I am also topping it with a Leupold V-III. But that's another story. lol
 
I second 545poison's post.
I would buy a used Savage 116 in 30-06 and spend the money saved on a GREAT SCOPE. If you find you still want a .270 it is a simple and cheap barrel change.
 
The extremely accurate Savage/Stevens seems to be the platform of choice for many serious varminters and benchrest shooters. The money saved could also be put into a premium barrel, custom stock or other high end parts if you INSIST on spending it, lol
 
The extremely accurate Savage/Stevens seems to be the platform of choice for many serious varminters and benchrest shooters. The money saved could also be put into a premium barrel, custom stock or other high end parts if you INSIST on spending it, lol
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O, I insist.

LOL
 
T/C Icon, CZ 550 or Sako. I'm very impressed with my Icon so far. I prefer older A-IV Sakos to the new models.
 
marlin xl7 in either

i like the .30-06 since it can be used for anything with handloading i can load up to a 220gr bullet or down to 100gr if i wanted

with my special load i got a best group of .75" at 100yards easily a moa rifle if i do my part

the best part cost me all of 341 after tax plus a hundred for a 3-9x40 scope
 
I have an X-Bolt in 7mm-08 and it is a tack driver so I am going with the X-bolt as the rifle choice. I have always had a spot for the 30-06 so that is my caliber choice out of the two you mentioned, light bullets up to fairly heavy. Being you mentioned elk, I would recommend a 7mm Rem Mag, but that is just my choice. My 7mag is my "go to" rifle for most of my hunting needs. Either the 270 or the 30-06 will work on elk also.
 
I have an X-Bolt in 7mm-08 and it is a tack driver so I am going with the X-bolt as the rifle choice. I have always had a spot for the 30-06 so that is my caliber choice out of the two you mentioned, light bullets up to fairly heavy. Being you mentioned elk, I would recommend a 7mm Rem Mag, but that is just my choice. My 7mag is my "go to" rifle for most of my hunting needs. Either the 270 or the 30-06 will work on elk also.
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Has the stiffness in your X-Bolt's upswing smoothed out at all?


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From your choices either M70 or Ruger

Either caliber would fill your needs, with 30-06 giving you the most choices in factory ammo. I really like my Ruger 30-06, but my el-cheapo Howa in .270 has killed more critters, mainly caus I don't think twice abour dragging it out in bad weather. I'd try a couple of different rifles and see what fits. Whatever you choose, though, dont go cheap on the scope! ;)
 
A CZ, Tikka, Remington, Winchester, Ruger, or Browning .30-06. All of those companies make great guns. But, I would buy a CZ ;)
 
I'd go with the 30-06. It's a great all-around cartridge, suitable for Elk.

As to brand, I have a Remington 700 and love it.
 
I'd just spend time in your local used gun stores until you find something you like. My best shooting rifle is a 1960's Remington 700 in .264 that I picked up on a whim. I just spent twice as much money on a new Ruger that doesn't shoot half as well.
 
I've always been a Remington guy. I have a 270 sps. It's cheap and ugly, but it shoots quite well with 130 grain Barnes triple shocks. I dropped two deer last fall with it. They didn't take a step after the shot. When the scope came back down the deer was gone in both cases. I just purchase a Ruger Hawkeye in 338 win mag to use for elk and it is a good shooter. I ran several hand loads through it and the best was a Nosler Accubond 180 grain load that shot around 3/4" at 100 yards. To answer your question, I would opt for a 30-06 over a 270 if you're going to hunt elk. You can get into heavier bullets.
 
USMarine,

Take a close look at rifles that are of a better design. Many rifles don't have control round feeding (crf), a safety that locks the firing pin, a three position safety that locks the bolt closed, allows the chamber to be unloaded with a live round on safe too.

The exact trigger pull on the new rifle in some gunstore is not of great concern. Most all manufacturers set the pull heavy to be 'safe'. Just accept the fact that you will have to adjust the trigger or get it tweaked afterwards. We all go through that.

Its the other features I mentioned before that are not easy to get adjusted.

Rifles that do have these features are the M70, Kimber, Ruger and some customs.
 
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