New DPMS sold today for ~$800.
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TexasPatriot.308
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AR prices are starting to come down, feel sorry for those that panicked and got took on those high prices....some of those high dollar ARs will be for sale later in the year when Christmas money needs to be handy.
Cemetery21
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LGS had 4 on the rack today - all under $1K. Said they already sold one and figured the guy was going to flip it.
Carne Frio
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You can order from Walmart's special order catalog.
I did and the price was the same as last November.
The downside is that it will take from 1 to 5 weeks
for it to come in and they want at least 50% down.
I did and the price was the same as last November.
The downside is that it will take from 1 to 5 weeks
for it to come in and they want at least 50% down.
Bobson
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For a downside that's exceptionally reasonable.
NO! IT IS NOT A STEAL! It is still a slightly inflated, sub standard, POS AR. Just like it would have been 6 months ago, just like it will be 6 months from now. I'm quite tired of nimrods declaring "That's a great price in this market." THEY are creating and feeding this market. An idiot at the LGS declared an 800 round case of 7.62X39 for $499 a "good deal" aloud, I couldn't help but laugh in his face. What is wrong with petrified unprepared sheeple? Prices are insane....quit buying till they stabilize.
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Kachok
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You think that is bad you should see the e-mail CTD sent me, their SALE was $29.19 for a box of 20 223 FMJs, I could not help but laugh out loud. Why oh why did i ever buy anything from them.....
stumpers
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I'm looking for a Colt 6520. I've seen the same ones on Gunbroker for weeks now, not selling at $2000.
I'm sure I'll find one in a few months from now for what it cost a few months ago.
The best way not to be gouged is to ignore the panic. The people rejecting my $1300 now will be happy to have my $1100 or less later this year.
I'm sure I'll find one in a few months from now for what it cost a few months ago.
The best way not to be gouged is to ignore the panic. The people rejecting my $1300 now will be happy to have my $1100 or less later this year.
Welding Rod
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Probably hard to sell guns when you don't have reasonably priced ammo to go with it.
A customer made that statement. Being outspoken, I couldn't help but laugh in his face. Oh, yeah, it was steel cased junk. Whatta deal....."in this market."
You hit the nail on the head...the proprieter is a snake. I was in an unfamiliar area of town and thought I'd stumbled onto a new shop, but when I walked in I recognized the dirtbag dealer from the local show.
madcratebuilder
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Some of the local dealers had lowers for $350 and billet models for $450. I laughed myself sick. What's sad is people buying at those crazy prices, I don't know who deserves the harder kick in the asteroid, the buyer or seller.
BS.... we have 4 in the family and they all work great, in fact 2 of them are set up for coyotes and very accurate and no problems whatsoever..
sansone
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agreed... the POS remark is uncalled for
Hey, guys, I'd like to throw something out here.
There is no doubt that some retailers are price gauging.
However, for the most part, we have to realize that these prices are driven by the market, not greedy retailers. We all know this: when there is a sudden rise in demand that is not accompanied by a sudden and equal rise in supply, prices must rise. If I were a retailer, I would need to raise my prices to be able to supply any reasonable level of service.
This is what I mean by "service:" if EVERYONE wants what I have and I don't have enough to supply everyone, I'll need to do one of two things: sell it all to the firstcomers, or raise the prices so I can maintain some semblance of stock on the shelves.
Even if that weren't true, if I have a hundred people just begging for my 20 AR15s, and quite a few of those people are perfectly willing, practically offering, to pay twice the normal price to make sure they get an AR15, I don't think I would be price-gouging by selling to them at the price that they want to pay.
Let's blame the sheeple who drive the price spike, not the retailers who take their cash.
BTW, glad to see prices at least starting to come down. Now if we could only get some sort of decent ammo stock back at our local Wal-Mart... I tried to buy some .22 ammo the other day. The shelves were ENTIRELY bare of any .22 or pistol caliber ammo. Ridiculous!
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There is no doubt that some retailers are price gauging.
However, for the most part, we have to realize that these prices are driven by the market, not greedy retailers. We all know this: when there is a sudden rise in demand that is not accompanied by a sudden and equal rise in supply, prices must rise. If I were a retailer, I would need to raise my prices to be able to supply any reasonable level of service.
This is what I mean by "service:" if EVERYONE wants what I have and I don't have enough to supply everyone, I'll need to do one of two things: sell it all to the firstcomers, or raise the prices so I can maintain some semblance of stock on the shelves.
Even if that weren't true, if I have a hundred people just begging for my 20 AR15s, and quite a few of those people are perfectly willing, practically offering, to pay twice the normal price to make sure they get an AR15, I don't think I would be price-gouging by selling to them at the price that they want to pay.
Let's blame the sheeple who drive the price spike, not the retailers who take their cash.
BTW, glad to see prices at least starting to come down. Now if we could only get some sort of decent ammo stock back at our local Wal-Mart... I tried to buy some .22 ammo the other day. The shelves were ENTIRELY bare of any .22 or pistol caliber ammo. Ridiculous!
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Dontcha love it when some guy decides to blast a certain type of gun? The DPMS is a POS blah, blah, blah,
Come on down and fire my DPMS $600 AR-15. I have no idea how many 1000s of rounds are down the range out of this gun not to mention the .22 conversion kit that I bought so we can shoot it even more. The only issue I have ever had with it si a couple of newer magazines were causing some FTF issues that resolved themselves with time. In today's world a DPMS at $800 is a good deal. Would I pay it? No! would I pay $1500 for a Colt? No!
Come on down and fire my DPMS $600 AR-15. I have no idea how many 1000s of rounds are down the range out of this gun not to mention the .22 conversion kit that I bought so we can shoot it even more. The only issue I have ever had with it si a couple of newer magazines were causing some FTF issues that resolved themselves with time. In today's world a DPMS at $800 is a good deal. Would I pay it? No! would I pay $1500 for a Colt? No!
Was at my local 'no haggle' gun shop yesterday (he just hangs a low price on stuff - no haggling) and they say ARs are now starting to trickle in.
He had a DPMS in the $800 range, and a DD Whisper 300 in the $1500 range.
I think he had one more on the shelf, but I didn't really pay much attention to it (I was busy looking at the DD - first one I've seen in his shop).
When the 'shortage' of stuff is over, ya wonder how fast it might be over?
There are a lot of phantom orders out there (I know my local shop does it).
Dealers are putting in the same order with X number of suppliers, and when the first one fills the order, they'll cancel their phantom orders.
This is what happened to Ruger a while back - much was made of Ruger no longer taking orders, but Ruger knew a lot of their orders where phantom orders, and since they were shipping everything they could produce, they saw no need to keep taking orders they knew were going to disappear.
I don't really need anything (I bought well ahead of the curve) - I'm currently sitting on my ammo money and waiting for the current situation to end.
He had a DPMS in the $800 range, and a DD Whisper 300 in the $1500 range.
I think he had one more on the shelf, but I didn't really pay much attention to it (I was busy looking at the DD - first one I've seen in his shop).
When the 'shortage' of stuff is over, ya wonder how fast it might be over?
There are a lot of phantom orders out there (I know my local shop does it).
Dealers are putting in the same order with X number of suppliers, and when the first one fills the order, they'll cancel their phantom orders.
This is what happened to Ruger a while back - much was made of Ruger no longer taking orders, but Ruger knew a lot of their orders where phantom orders, and since they were shipping everything they could produce, they saw no need to keep taking orders they knew were going to disappear.
I don't really need anything (I bought well ahead of the curve) - I'm currently sitting on my ammo money and waiting for the current situation to end.
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I don't. Don't really care when other people do something stupid as long as I don't have to pay for it and our President isn't likely to have Government subsidized AR's anytime soon.
Well $800 for a $650 rifle is better than $2000 for a $650 rifle but they will come down, so it's only a good find if you are shortsighted.
dastardly-D
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I'm glad some of you guys already blasted the huffy guy calling DPMS a pos ! I haven't had any problems with mine at all ! None ! Chevys,Fords and Dodges must be crap too if you're all about super name brand Mercedes and BMW's ?
I'm glad some of you guys already blasted the huffy guy calling DPMS a pos ! I haven't had any problems with mine at all ! None ! Chevys,Fords and Dodges must be crap too if you're all about super name brand Mercedes and BMW's ?
I'm glad you like your coyote rifle. I've seen way too many go T/U in training classes. Broken bolts abound; trigger pins come in second. I guarantee none of your rifles see real usage. Do you fire more than a case of ammo a year, half that, a quarter of that? Popping a coyote with a 3 moa rifle twice a year doesn't attest to a rifles worth. I buy hard use tools, and DPMS don't fall into that category.
Rooter - Maybe you are just abusing equipment? Now before you go nuclear, just think about it. For a range toy, as the majority of people use ARs for, do not need higher levels of precision for monthly range trips with 200 or 300 rounds. It is just plain stupid to drop 2 or 3 grand on a top of the line AR. Now if you are using it as a military weapon or for 3 gun competitions than you would need that type of precision. The point is to buy based on your use of the gun, not the mall ninja scenarios some people plan out In their heads.
At what point did I ever say any of my equipment failed? I buy high quality gear. My original post clearly indicated DPMS was a substandard, low budget, POS rifle 6 months ago, and will be 6 months from now. I'm sick of seeing the "in this market" clause being added to justify absurdly high prices. This is my opinion. If you want to buy an overpriced, inferior, AR, have at it. I look forward to all the stagnate WTS unfired AR15 ads next year that say Paid $1300, 1500, 1700, asking $750.
Yes, as a matter of fact, I think they are. I don't need a Mercedes or Beamer, though. I'll take a Honda over all of them.
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Sam1911
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Now we know.
Enough of the overheated brand-bashing.
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