New Glock owner: question

[Jonah71]

I found a very old thread on this subject but it didn't answer my question. I'm new to Glocks. Recently purchased a G 23 and a G 26. I was told that replacing the stock 5.5 lb. connector with a 3.5 lb. on the G 23 would be an improvement. I don't have a clue. However, it does seem to me that if it's such an improvement, wouldn't Glock mfg. the gun with the 3.5 lb. in the first place? And if not, what would be the advantage? As for the G 26, imo there is no way to improve it. (except for an extended mag of course)

 

[Mike J]

It would just lighten the trigger. Many people prefer lighter triggers. Many people also say that there may be legal ramifications to lightening the trigger on a defensive firearm. If it were mine I would learn to shoot it like it is.

 

[rhodco]

Look at the difference between the stock trigger bar and the 3.5. It's only a small difference in the angle. The spring remains the same. They are cheap enough that you could easily switch them out and try each one to see which one feels best to you.

I prefer to keep the original bar, but polish the contact points for a smoother feel.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I have a G17 with one of those connectors (they are the same across nearly all Glock models). It does lighten the trigger nicely. I wouldn't recommend it for a daily carry gun - I only use mine for competition. It also makes the break slightly mushier, but IMHO the lighter weight is worth it for competition.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Agree with...
I wouldn't recommend it for a daily carry gun...
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I have it on my G 17L, (factory)... but all others are 5.5 for the reason, I carry them for CCW...

Some mention the New York trigger also...

Lighter is not better in stress situation IMHO

 

[Zerodefect]

Try the Lone Wolf 3.5 connecter along with a Glockworks spring kit.

Still fine for CCW if you follow proper handleing rules and have a proper holster.

 

[Sig88]

I like to keep everything factory but that is me.

 

[possum]

many people like lighter triggers, normally it is because they think they can shoot better with a lighter trigger. which in theory they do, however if they understood and applied the fundamentals to the stock trigger they would see that a trigger can not make up for poor marksmanship.

 

[gaijin6423]

I've tried the Ghost 3.5 (w/ springs) in my G22 that I use as one of several competition guns. The complete mod--if I'm not mistaken, it requires both the connector, and the springs to attain a true 3.5lb trigger--was not what I was looking for. The feel of it, along with some serious malfunctioning, had me take it to my local smith. He removed the connector, left the springs, and polished some internals a bit, and although it's a bit heavier pull, it's smoother, crisper, and all trace of over travel is gone.

Even without the malfunction, there's no way I would have carried the pistol in it's 3.5lb state. For me--YMMV--it was simply too light and had too short of a travel on it for me to feel comfortable banging around with it. The pistol still needs some attention from me before I'll carry it, but that's due to me needing to practice with it. Of course, there's fairly aggressive stippling on it now that would probably tear my clothes to shreds...

 

[Loosedhorse]

I think the NY-1 trigger spring is an improvement, especially for SD: heavier, but removes the mush and gives you a fairly defined and consistent break.

Of course, there's always the option, for a carry Glock, of lightening the trigger and adding an external safety! However, the NY-1 costs $2-3; you can install it yourself...and remove it if you don't like it.

 

[ForumSurfer]

If you are new to glocks, or any pistol model for that matter, I wouldn't go monkeying about with the trigger until you put several hundred rounds downrange. That gives you time to break it in, smooth things out and determine what you do and don't like. Honestly, it is hard to tell what you want to feel different with less than 500 rounds through it. Put 500-1000 rounds through and you may start wondering why you wanted to change anything at all.

I've tried the 3.5 lb connector. It made little difference.

Polishing the factory one to a smooth finish gives the same result for $15 less. I lightly polish my internals (25 cent trigger job) , carry guns are not. The trigger pull weight doesn't change, the pull is just smoother and the break is slightly more crisp feeling. It doesn't accomplish much, but I do it since I put smooth faced g17 triggers on any glock I buy (no real benefit, I just don't like serrated triggers) and I have it all apart anyway.

To me, either option feels exactly the same as glock that has been broken in with around 3-4000 rounds through it. Which brings us to the single most important accessory...target ammo.

 

[Zerodefect]

many people like lighter triggers, normally it is because they think they can shoot better with a lighter trigger. which in theory they do, however if they understood and applied the fundamentals to the stock trigger they would see that a trigger can not make up for poor marksmanship.

Maybe. In my case I just feel that the gritty cheap stock trigger is terrible and easy to improve on. Especially since I also shoot 1911's which have triggers 1000 times better.

I just wanted a better feel and a cleaner break. Wasn't really after too light of a feel, but I did want a trigger that was also more forgiving to finger placement. The LW 3.5 isn't too light anyways.

Going too light really actually hurts accuracy with the Glock. It'll go off when ever you hit the trigger, instead of a nice firm squeeze before going off. I took mine down to lightswitch feel, then stiffened it up until it squeezed just right.

 

[jmr40]

A trigger that breaks at exactly 5.5 lbs everytime is more important than a light trigger that sometimes breaks at 3.1 lbs and 3.8 lbs the next time.

I have found the standard 5.5 lb trigger to be more consistent and to break more crisply.

 

[2wheels]

I wouldn't mess around with lightening a trigger on a defensive weapon. What's the point? If you can't hit center of mass within 10-15 yards with a stock Glock every time, a lighter trigger won't help you.

Some people even reccommend you make your trigger HEAVIER for self defence guns.

Put at least a few hundred rounds downrange before you worry about modding your gun out.

 

[john5036]

+1 to all the recommendations to get good with the gun as it is. The Glock's pull is pretty light as it is, any lighter than that it gets a bit dangerous outside of controlled competition.

... and don't pay too much attention to the 1911 fans who compare triggers as the mechanics are completely different and otherwise irrelevant to your questions. Although, 1911s are great firearms and I'd get one and train with it too

 

[mister2]

Glock 34s and 35s come from the factory with a 3.5 connector installed. Surely no one is arguing these are unsuitable for CCW...??

 

[possum]

not only is the stick trigger pull not that bad, but the reset is outstanding. as opposed to say the xd trigger that i personally love, but the reset sucks. If you are a serious shooter the trigger's reset can do you alot of good if you know how to use it to your advantage.

 

[S&Wfan]

Hi,

Leave it alone and focus on ammo and mastering the gun. Glock chose this weight for a reason. It is the best compromise of target/plinking accuracy and the need to have the trigger stiff enough to prevent an accidental discharge in case of needing to shoot it in a high stress/life threatening situation.

And . . . for extra safety, don't forget to keep the old "booger hook" OFF the trigger until the moment you are ready to shoot.

 

[jackpinesavages]

I'll be dropping NY 1s into all my Glocks soon. YMMV.

 

[FatPants]

I shoot my G17 in both IDPA, USPSA, and 3-gun. Soon after getting it, I did a $0.25 trigger job, 3.5lb connector, and a Wolff spring kit. Over the course of about a year, I've slowly but surely changed everything back to stock.

I really think leaving it stock, and running several thousand rounds through it is more beneficial than trying to replace the connector and springs, etc. The gun will smooth up after a few thousand rounds, and you will love it. My G17 has about 15,000 through it now, and its as smooth as butter. I wouldn't trade it for a new one.

 

[LiveLife]

As for the G 26, imo there is no way to improve it.

There is. How much TV do you watch? Few hours each day?

Rack the slide and dry fire both pistols every time you sit down to watch TV. Also practice dry firing while watching the front sight - as the striker is released, practice until the front sight does not move.

In just a few days/weeks, you won't need a trigger job and your shot groups will improve immensely at the range. And don't forget to practice changing your magazine. No, you don't need to look at your magazines to change them, keep your eyes on the TV. Practice mag changes until you can do it with your eyes closed/in the dark.

Want more practice? Practice drawing your pistol from a holster. In fact, draw and practice pointing at the actors on TV. Practice until your sights are dead on each and every time.

 

[Loosedhorse]

Glock 34s and 35s come from the factory with a 3.5 connector installed. Surely no one is arguing these are unsuitable for CCW...??

Unsuitable is a strong word. They were designed to fit inside the IDPA box, as the 17L and 24 did not.

Let's just say I would never carry either with the factory trigger for SD. Well...unless I put that external safety on the gun. Just me.

 

[2wheels]

Glock 34s and 35s come from the factory with a 3.5 connector installed. Surely no one is arguing these are unsuitable for CCW...??

I might use the word undesirable.

Ignoring the fact that they're competition oriented guns. If for whatever reason I wanted to carry a G34/35, I'd replace the 3.5 pound trigger with a standard 5.5 pound one, or even a heavier NY style trigger.

The only thing standing between a Glock and an negligent discharge is a proper holster and your finger off the trigger, that's not a bad thing, but for ME it's enough reason to not want a light trigger.

 

[ForumSurfer]

I'll be dropping NY 1s into all my Glocks soon. YMMV.

I really don't like the way they feel at all. I bought one, tried it and mailed it off to a member free of charge.

I really think leaving it stock, and running several thousand rounds through it is more beneficial than trying to replace the connector and springs, etc. The gun will smooth up after a few thousand rounds, and you will love it. My G17 has about 15,000 through it now, and its as smooth as butter. I wouldn't trade it for a new one.

I agree. The 25 cent polish job just gives you that 3000 round feel a little sooner with no negative side effects.

 

[Ken Rainey]

A Glock 3.5 connector will make the trigger pull about 4.5 lbs with an easier break but the trigger feels "mushier". For the lighter break but with a firm take up and no "mushiness", you can install a 3.5 connector with a NY1 trigger spring ... once you have these parts you can try any of them alone or in combination to change the trigger pull weight and feel. The NY1 trigger spring also adds a hedge against the possibility of trigger return failure by spring breakage by it's design....But, after all is said and done, the factory trigger IS just about right ... well, after a little polishing!