A few days ago I talked to a guy who was wounded in Afghanistan a little while ago. He told me that there was a new rule that to get his veterans benefits he would have to sign a form saying that he could not own guns. Have any of you heard of such a law? He said it was an executive order. He swore up and down it was true and he had no PTSD for any mental health issues.
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No...
This is just more rumors & false information.
I suggest your "friend" contact his local office of veterans affairs or go speak to a VA social worker/veteran representative.
The VA & other veteran support organizations are on a big push to prevent suicides or veterans from hurting themselves but unless your bud is on prescribed medications or has been told by a mental health professional not to be around weapons/guns for safety reasons I wouldn't believe it.
I'm a US military veteran(honorable discharge), a former VA; www.va.gov employee & I receive VA medial benefits/treatment.
The VA is not "out to get your guns".
If they were, I'm 100% sure the NRA & the 2A/gun rights groups would be all over the issue.
This is just more rumors & false information.
I suggest your "friend" contact his local office of veterans affairs or go speak to a VA social worker/veteran representative.
The VA & other veteran support organizations are on a big push to prevent suicides or veterans from hurting themselves but unless your bud is on prescribed medications or has been told by a mental health professional not to be around weapons/guns for safety reasons I wouldn't believe it.
I'm a US military veteran(honorable discharge), a former VA; www.va.gov employee & I receive VA medial benefits/treatment.
The VA is not "out to get your guns".
If they were, I'm 100% sure the NRA & the 2A/gun rights groups would be all over the issue.
A meaningless post expressing an unsupported opinion has been deleted.
The OP asked a very specific question. If someone has some solid, documented information to offer, please do so. If not, please don't bother.
The OP asked a very specific question. If someone has some solid, documented information to offer, please do so. If not, please don't bother.
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VA/DAV, VFW, American Legion, AMVETs, Wounded Warriors....
If the "buddy" does not want to speak to a VA employee or public service veterans affairs specialist, he could also try the local VFW(veterans of foreign wars), DAV(disabled veterans), Wounded Warriors, American Legion post.
They may provide details about the gun/weapon issues but like I stated, I'm unaware of any firearm or weapon mandates re: VA benefits.
edit; I just reviewed a reported form re; veteran ownership of firearms, new SOP for veterans. The "letter" clearly states any "determination of incompetency" of a veteran means they can not own, possess, carry, use or store firearms & ammunition. The veteran(s) could face arrest or criminal prosecution if they violate the federal law(s).
If the "buddy" wants help or benefits, then he can't own-carry any guns. If he was screened/checked & has these medical conditions then he meets the criteria. If not then he can own or use firearms just like anyone else.
I think we are not getting the full story here.
If the "buddy" does not want to speak to a VA employee or public service veterans affairs specialist, he could also try the local VFW(veterans of foreign wars), DAV(disabled veterans), Wounded Warriors, American Legion post.
They may provide details about the gun/weapon issues but like I stated, I'm unaware of any firearm or weapon mandates re: VA benefits.
edit; I just reviewed a reported form re; veteran ownership of firearms, new SOP for veterans. The "letter" clearly states any "determination of incompetency" of a veteran means they can not own, possess, carry, use or store firearms & ammunition. The veteran(s) could face arrest or criminal prosecution if they violate the federal law(s).
If the "buddy" wants help or benefits, then he can't own-carry any guns. If he was screened/checked & has these medical conditions then he meets the criteria. If not then he can own or use firearms just like anyone else.
I think we are not getting the full story here.
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The rub is that the determination of competency is not through a judicial process but by the VA itself. The NCIS is notified of individuals who have had their competency challenged. read this . . . CHALLENGED . . . WITHOUT DUE PROCESS . . .
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The guy has no idea what he's talking about. i'm a long time disabled veteran and a veteran's advocate.
i spend lots of hours debunking "he told me", "i got this e-mail" and "world net daily said" trash about disabled veterans having their gun rights violated.
If a veteran has no relatives, has dementia or is incoherent the VA can appoint a fiduciary (trustee) to manage the vets affairs.
Most veterans who are ruled "incompetent to manage their own affairs" ask for the approval of a specific trustee to manage their financial matters.
General Shinseki, head of the VA, says he is no longer reporting these veterans to NICS.
The largest problem for vets who have been "ruled incompetent to manage their own affairs" is theft by the trustee chosen to manage the vets money. i am aware of numerous cases of theft by trustees.
More than you have time to read about the matter:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...be-appointed-fiduciary-benefits-purposes.html
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"Due process"....
"due process" would imply that a veteran went thru a formal exam, signed up for the program, was screened by doctor or mental health professional then adjudicated to meet the stated criteria to be incompent(unable to be legally responsible for their actions). If any veteran is not able to support themselves(house, feed, clothe, bathe) or if they need a court appointed/doctor/soc worker because they wish to harm themselves or others then they can't have firearms.
The forum member who posted the ? doesn't seem that upset over it, so why would any other member?
I'd add that a veteran or anyone else should be entitled to a appeal or second review by a unbiased source but it's not unreasonable or unbelievable for a person(veteran or not) to be denied a firearm due to the documented mental health status.
"due process" would imply that a veteran went thru a formal exam, signed up for the program, was screened by doctor or mental health professional then adjudicated to meet the stated criteria to be incompent(unable to be legally responsible for their actions). If any veteran is not able to support themselves(house, feed, clothe, bathe) or if they need a court appointed/doctor/soc worker because they wish to harm themselves or others then they can't have firearms.
The forum member who posted the ? doesn't seem that upset over it, so why would any other member?
I'd add that a veteran or anyone else should be entitled to a appeal or second review by a unbiased source but it's not unreasonable or unbelievable for a person(veteran or not) to be denied a firearm due to the documented mental health status.
I think we've spent enough time on a rumor started by "some guy met on vacation."
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