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  1. Ch0sen0ne

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  2. Kemp427

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    Leupold and Zeiss are the only two optics I use. I would rather buy one optic to last a lifetime rather than 10 cheap ones (per gun). Just remember when you hear such things as these the old saying "if it sounds to good to be true.........."

    Respectfully, Kemp427
     
  3. Avenger29

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    If you're smart, you won't buy one of these Osprey International scopes.

    For the prices charged, you can get an affordable scope that will be worth a damn.
     
  4. floridashooter

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    i bought ta64259imd scope mounted it on my ruger 10/22 had terrible problem dailing it in at 25 yards ... it seem the cross hairs moved when i focused the scope and everytime i adjusted for focus it needed to be bore sighted again. just to see what it would do i remounted it on my 30-06 i got off 4 rounds then the cross hairs broke from the recoil By the way i paid 60.00 dollars for it so the old saying you get what you pay for rings true in this case.
     
  5. deer killa

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    they may be ok but they aren't the clearest. and they might not hold up to heavy calibers. they dont hold up to heavy calibers like burris ore luepys.
     
  6. KHughes

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    I have 180 rounds through my AR15 with an osprey 3x9x42 mounted on it with no issues. Rock solid so far. It works as advertised. I zeroed at 100 yards with a 3/4 inch group. Two of three shots you could cover with a dime. I cranked it up to 200 yards and it was right on the money. Ditto for 300 yards. For the amount of shooting I do it is all I need. I'm not an expert rifleman and just need to be able to kill a coyote out to 200 yards and an occasional 300 yard shot. Maybe it will blow up on the next shot fired but so far so good.

    Kent
     
  7. SKYDOG308

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    oops...just bought one before I read these posts

    First of all, I have Leupold's on all of my REAL distance rifles (all VX-III's with the Varmint reticle), sans the one IOR mounted on a 308 semi auto (I mostly shoot, iron sights), just came home with an Osprey 6-24x50 (paid 199.00 plus taxes). Bore sighted onto a very inexpensive AR-15 that I cobbled together from a bunch of old parts and a new barrel I had laying around. First thing I noted was that the dang thing ran out of adjustment before I could get where I was headed (bore sighting), second thing was when I cranked up to 24X and it was like someone had turned out all the lights in the room. I am taking to the range to see if it works this weekend, I WILL POST RESULTS. I sale clinical trials software not optics, I shoot iron sights mostly, but wanted an inexpensive "toy" scope to plink with some friends at 225 yards. I just can not justify putting almost a grand (or more) in glass on every little plinker I have....oops I told a lie..I have six BSA's on 22LR's and on 2 GAMO air rifles, forgot about them. My wife shoots a custom 10/22 with a Swift variable she keeps cranked up to 12x or 14x whatever it is. After reading these posts......I have that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, kinda like....well you know what I mean. Fortunately I bought from a dealer I have dealt with for 12 years. I'll post the results ASAP:banghead:
     
  8. Avenger29

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    SkyDog, why didn't you get something like a Bushnell 3200 or any of the other more trustworthy brands for that price? I think you just paid $200 for a piece of FAIL. See if you can take it back...don't even bother shooting it...
     
  9. Wired Wrong

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    Osprey

    I was hired to test Osprey Scopes by the "OWNER" of the company. After testing a dozen or so of the scopes in various forms, I advised the owner that they were junk and either would not zero or would not hold zero.His comment was we are going to sell them anyway probably at the gun shows since we will never see these people again.This was when I terminated my employment with with Osprey.So beware.:evil:
     
  10. JAPSA

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    I was looking for a nice scope for my new RRA LAR 8 .308 Varmint with 26" Bull barrel. To be honest, I'd like to have a Schmidt & Bender, Swarovski, Nightforce or Leupold. I even looked at the specs of the Shepherd scopes, The power that I'd like to have can't be no less than 32X or better and 1/8 MOA adjustments, 30mm tube, that is what I needed and will not settle for anything less.

    After waiting a little over a year for the rifle, my trigger finger is very itchy and I just can't wait to shoot this fine rifle. I didn't mind spending $1000 on a scope but then again the features that I am looking for can't be found on sub $1000 scopes, something that came close is the Nightforce bench rest scope 32x but still thats almost $1300, after spending an arm in a leg on my new LAR 8 varmint, I just need to watch my money.

    I thought I put the gun aside for now until the right scope comes along. I visited one of the Gun Shows in Jacksonville Florida and I noticed 3 tables selling different lines of scopes. One of which was Osprey, the other is NCStar and Accu Shot. I looked at all three just out of curiosity. I scratched off NCStar from the list as fast as I can open the box, I'd rather go iron sight than put that junk in my rifle. The other was the Accu Shot which was not bad at all. it was 40X by 50mm, side focus, and all the bells and whistles one could ever want including push button red and green recticle, the lens was clear and the price was not bad at all... still under $300.

    For about the same money, I looked at the Osprey 40X by 50mm, it had all the features that the Accu Shot had except the push button recticle. Now, I do know they are all made in China but if I were to take a chance on Chinese made scopes I'd pick the Osprey. According to the guys selling it, they used Chinese labor but the parts were imported and lens are from Japan... honestly, I could care less if it was made in Pluto. If it works, I'll buy it. I am as skeptical as anyone, after all I'm not putting it on a .22 lr or .17 hmr... it has to withstand the recoil of a semi auto .308.

    3 more gunshows later and I kept coming back, did my research on the internet and found a whole bunch of info about the Osprey scopes, some I could care less to know but some are very helpfull in making my decision. I've read some post that there are people don't like it just because it was made in China, some post are reflection of other post they read somewhere with no first hand experience which were not helpful, some sounds a little fishy but then again 'garbage in, garbage out".

    Well, after three visits to the show I finally decided to give it a try, why not, after haggling a deal has been struck for less than $200 bucks, If I don't like it, I'd take it off my rifle and sell it half price, so my loss would just be $100 and someone will be happy with their $100 scope. It was worth a try and risk.

    I requested one that was fresh out of the box, checked for common issues I read on the internet, like windage and elevation not working, clicks are mushy, lens cover broken etc. I pretty much spent atleast 30 mins quality checking the darn thing. There's gotta be someting broken somewhere but I just can't find it, everything seems to work fine, including the range estimator side focus. The lens was surprisingly clear inside a dimly lit convention hall.

    I took it home and immedietly did a side by side comparison from 10X to 24X against my Nikon scope, I just can't believe my eyes that it seems that the Osprey has better optics, it could be just my eyes but I can see the grains of the trees 150 yards away that I can't with the Nikon, the Nikon can't go higher than 24X but I did try the Osprey @ 40X and image is still very clear and bright... so far it passed the lens quality test but the million dollar question is "Will it hold true Zero?" Will it change its POI when the power is adjusted? Will the clicks really 1/8 MOA and go back to zero when adjusted.

    Getting ready for the range, loaded up 40 rounds of 180 grains BTHP, bore sighted the scope, adjusted the crosshair, loctite the mounts and I was the first guy at the 100 yard lane very early in the morning. Fired one shot and it was just 6 inches higher and 1 inch to the left @ 100 yards with 2" target... made corrections on windage and elevation, using max power @ 40x, did 5 rounds and confirmed that I established my baseline zero with less than 6 rounds.

    Fired 5 rounds using 40X once more just to make sure I just didn't get lucky, then 5 more rounds using 32X and 5 more @ 24X and so on. I was surprised that it held its zero at varying power, most groups are within half inch but the groups got bigger below 24X, It was hard to see my 2" targets less than 20X @ 100 yards.

    All in all, this is pretty good for the money, I am hoping that this scope will work as advertised but I can say that if anything is not up to par with this scope are the rings rings, a good one would cost just as much what i paid for the scope but so far it has proven to be a good investment. The scope rings seems to be working for now and solid but I got my eye on a new one.

    It will undergo some more testing at 200, 300, and 500 yards, I expect to have no more than 3~5" group at this distance. I will update this post if I have to eat my words later on but until then, the scope is fixed on that rifle.

    I figured I post it here since this is one of the forums I found and used to research for the Osprey, I don't work for Osprey or planted by the guys selling Osprey scopes, I'm just a somewhat satisfied customer on a budget glad to see a product that I can afford without breaking the bank and at the same time getting all the features I want.

    Yes, I'd still want a Schmidt and Bender, Swarovski, Nigthforce and Leupold but until I can afford the ones I want, I may need to settle for the lower cost scope that can do the job. I'd buy one again and I'll tell my friends to buy it too.

    From what I learned so far, this company uses Chinese labor but imported parts, I could care less if it was made in other 3rd world countries offering cheap labor, if it doesn't work I'd throw it away... I once paid more for a scope mount than what I paid for this scope so it is all good. For the price, I didn't think it would work, I honestly think something will break and I prepared my self for disappointment. If I can find a 30 mm one piece steel scope mounts I'll be a happy camper.

    Again I don't work for these guys, and yes, this is my first and only post, you can believe it or not I just thought I'd share this information to anyone who may find it usefull. If you need to contact me for any reason here is my email: [email protected].

    Thanks for reading.
     
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    Dude, I am sorry but your are so full of BS. How much were you paid by them? I bet you if we ran IP's you would come up with all else.

    Common theme in this topic.... here it is. Look a the number of posts the user name, if under 5, you know it is a post saying how "I took a chance on Osprey and it is a great scope." Any poster with more than 5 posts to their name.... "it is junk."

    Lastly, notice how all of the posters supporting Osprey magically have an AR in a 308.

    Dude, if you are spending that much on your rifle, get a good scope. Hell, for the price of the supper 40x power junk, just get a good Nikon ProStaff, and save $200 a year by not trashing the junk, paying for fedex.

    Seriously, who do you trust more, Nikon, the number 1 in optics/ cameras/etc... or a knockoff chinese company that sells to dopes at gun shows, and welcomes callers with "Do you have a receipt?"
     
  12. Dravur

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    Confuscious say....He who buy cheap scope not see big picture....

    Yeah, get a Nikon or Burris or even a Bushnell...

    You WILL be disappointed by the commie crap.
     
  13. JAPSA

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    @ MAKSIM here's some more BS for you :)

    Sorry you feel that way, it may sound like BS but my intention is to share my opinion about the product. You are entitled to your own opinion and if you want to believe that everything I say is BS... I will respect that, only because you're opinion matters regardless how silly it may sound, that is just my nature.

    Yeah... you do that cool tech talk - eagle eye BS and ran my IP address... go ahead, I'll even give it to you if you want to make it easier for you. Do you want my address too? Let me see what else you can find out about me???

    And no I didn't magically acquired a .308 rifle, I have quite a few of these silly looking rfiles but only one in LAR 8 Varmint with 26" Stainless Bull barrel which is brand new from RRA. Yeah really! I have a pic for you, look down below, I'd show my face too but I'm too shy, it's a little dirty but that is the best I can do with such short notice.

    Listen folks, I didn't contribute to the thread to get into any pissing contest with anyone. If you don't like the Osprey scope that is perfectly fine with me. I'm not selling it. I was researching about it and I just happen to stumble across few threads about it and thought I'd add my opinion. This is just my opinion.

    I promised to get a Leupold or dreamed of having a Schimdt and Bender one of these days but the specs that I want has a price tag that is out of reach at this point... I didn't say that the Osprey can beat all these high end scopes just yet but then again this is not a very expensive scope either.

    I took a chance, I didn't like it but that is better than none, I needed a 40x scope period, the cheapest one I can find is over $1300, I want something that would work it did so far and nothing is falling out of the tube yet. Even the so called cheap scope mounts still holding up (possibly with the help of blue loctite) but it is still maintaining zero. I will be replacing that soon.

    I set up my baseline zero @ 100 yards like most with only 3 rounds (bore sighted), I zeroed the rifle using 40X, shot 5 rounds, change to 32X then shot 5 rounds then down to 24x shot 5 rounds, I was promised by rifle manufacturer that the gun is 1 MOA accurate, I think it is sub MOA. The POI is the same with only a couple of flyers which was my fault.

    Not much fun @ 100 yards, I loaded some more 180 grains BTHP and gonna try the 200 yards in a couple of days. I'm doing everything I can in my power to find out if I can find anything wrong with it so I can just have an excuse to bring it back... so far for the money, I'd rather keep it.

    And as you say... Dude, I already have a Nikon prostaff just not 40X, they are good but but not the best. If you think it is then maybe you haven't seen the S&B yet but you seem to have a lot of B&S in you!

    In the end, I like that fact that it works (atleast for now)... I'd suggest not to buy it if you don't like buying cheap Chinese products (throw that that keyboard and computer too - it's made in China :) Yep, unless you make your own chair... it's made in China too. You get my drift, Dude? I'm not here to sell this product.

    Osprey can't afford me even if they want to pay me... I don't think they make enough money selling these cheap scopes @ gunshows to justify paying me to write this **** on this forum. Frankly, it is all just BS to most and it is up to the reader to keep an open mind.

    Give me anything with 40X, I can see pass 500 yards and holds true zero(except BSA, NCSTAR, Leapers) show me in the line of Leupold, Nikon, SuperSniper, Shepherd, S&B etc etc etc... I can buy for less than $200 and I'll call you GOD!


    I almost forgot... the damn pic! Yes it is mine... see my name engraved in the receiver??? Just kidding... only "DOPES" do that... whatever that means. :)
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    or a direct link...
    http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8834/img0669ez.jpg

    How about that... I have 2 (two) post now, three more post according to you I will be more credible! Wheeew! Look what you made me do... all this crap I wrote and no paycheck yet? Somebody cut me a check!
     
  14. Wired Wrong

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    Osprey/Aimshot

    Yes folks they are the same people. I have been at the office before it was moved to the OWNERS house and they are the same people and company. The Aimshot stuff was just okay but the Osprey Scopes/ range finders etc were all junk. I know I tested well over 2 dozen of each The range finders would not work below 40 degrees. The scopes would not hold zero none of them. DON"T BUY THEM THEY ARE JUNK. A Tasco product is much better. Thanks for my venting.
     
  15. KHughes

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    Well, this is my fifth post so I've edged into the credible side of things and by the way, Dude, I don't have a .308 AR. It is on a .223 version. My osprey is working fine after another couple hundred rounds. Maybe she'll blow up on the next round fired but so far that hasn't happened. I've had no issues of holding zero or ranging. I've got Nikon and Bushnells on other rifles and revolvers mounted with Leupold rings and bases and they work well. However, I've got no complaints about the Osprey scope I have mounted on my Rock River AR. Indeed my story is true. I wanted to find a scope and ring combo that was under the price of a Nikon and Leupold setup. So I thought I'd give osprey a try. Been well pleased so far.

    Dude, this is my perception and my reality. If something changes I'll let you know.

    Kent
     
  16. carrottop432

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    *Jump to the last sentence to skip my rant/testimonial* :D

    I believe this will be my 5th post as well, so maybe I'm credible now. "Where's the big 50's?" With 181 shots fired from my Armalite AR-50 with an Osprey International 10-40x50 mounted on top and STILL a dead on at 300yds, do you still have any questions? Not good enough? How about a 4-16x50 mounted on my 45-70 with hundreds of rounds through it and still a dead on zero? Need more proof? Watch this video on youtube carefully and you'll see that the second shot went through the same hole as the first shot. Don't believe it's mounted on a 50 cal or that I'm a real person?
    100_0639.jpg

    Still in disbelief? Here's a pic of me and my 45-70. 8-points don't lie:
    100_1119.jpg

    As you can see, I've been plagued by the infamous loose turrets. Oh, no a bottle of loc-tite costs a few dollars. Why don't I just spend enough money to buy another gun on a scope instead? If "you get what you pay for" is so true, why doesn't everyone save up and buy a Bugatti Veyron instead of wasting money on crappy $20,000 and $30,000 cars? They cost significantly more so they must be the best!

    To end this horrible rant, let me comment on Osprey's customer support. I recently purchased some sun shades for my scopes from an Osprey vendor at a local gun show. The vendor stated that they would fit my scope without any problem, so I got them. He didn't know that Osprey scopes as old as mine weren't designed with sunshades in mind. After I went home and attempted to install them only to accidentally loosen the front lenses, I inquired about it the next day. He told me to simply bring the scopes back and he'd give me new scopes that the shades would fit on. The next gun show rolled around and there was a different guy at the Osprey table who's only question after I explained the situation was, "Which reticle would you like your 2 new scopes to have?" I didn't even buy the scopes from that guy, didn't have my boxes, didn't bring in my receipts, and he immediate swapped! Please show me a company with better customer support!

    I'm not trying to hate on people who purchase anything other than Osprey scopes; nor am I trying to piss off people who've genuinely had a crappy experience with Osprey International. If you prefer Nightforce, Nikon, US Optics, Schmitt & Bender, etc., then by all means, get them. Likewise, if you've had bad luck with Osprey scopes, I don't blame you a bit for not liking them. If I had a bad experience with them, I'd be bashing the holy crap out of their name right now. I had the misfortune of owning a Tiger computer years ago that was the biggest pile garbage I've ever used and bash them to this day! I just get annoyed when people claim I'm just a plant for a company or immediately say something is garbage because it costs significantly less than something else when they've never tried both. My dad has a Simmons scope that he paid several hundred dollars for and it is sweet. My brother's rifle has a $600 Burris scope that is amazingly clear, but it's not $500 clearer than either of my scopes.

    My personal experience with Osprey International has been excellent and my next scope will be an Osprey!
     
  17. Tyson0317

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    My vote

    I see a lot of flack directed towards this brand and some frequent posters saying that some posts are fake. This is my first post, I registered just to weigh in on the thread, which was pointed out to me by a friend that was doing research on what I told him was a good scope for the money. You can check my handle on SniperCentral.com and see that I am not ad-bot.

    That said, I bought my 12-40 x 50mm from a vendor at a local gun show. His claim that these are as good as Leopold is a bit much, but I got to give credit where credit is due.

    Over the years, I have owned a number of lower brand scopes - Tasco, Barsa, AIM, NcStar, etc. Until I discovered Osprey, the NcStars were my cheap scopes of choice and I own 6 of them. Since discovering Osprey, I have bought 2 more - a red-dot and a pistol scope.

    I am a pretty serious F-Class competition shooter in .308 and 7.62x54R. I have a whole necklace of dimes pierced at 100yd and sometimes participate in show-off matches shooting consecutive thumb tacks at 100yd.

    When I buy and zero a new scope, I usually test it in a variety of ways. One of my standard tests involves moving the elevation and windage their full range of motion, returning to zero and seeing if the crosshair holds true. The Osprey is the ONLY Chi-comm scope that has passed this test in my hands!

    The other test is to see whether 5 MOA on the dial, truly means 5 MOA on paper. The Osprey is not perfect, but it's close; when dialed to 5MOA, it shoots a solid 5.5.

    As per warranty, I never tried to contact Osprey directly. I figured that without proof of purchase, it would be a waster of time. However, the guy that does our local gun shows took care of a problem scope no questions asked, even when I could not reproduce the problem in front of him. The red dot that I bought would sometimes turn off or change the reticule due to recoil form my 5.7 FN. Even though we both banged it on the table and it stayed on, he had no problem swapping it out for me.

    That said, these scopes are not comparable to Leopold, Nightforce, Nikon or Swarovski. But for under $200, I doubt that you will find better.

    Personally, my Osprey will soon be dismounted for a new $1800 scope from one of the top brands - my shooting and load development has gotten to the point where I feel that better optics will help my shooting. But that is not to take anything away from a great $200 scope!
     
  18. mptrimshop

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  19. Dravur

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    Well... I am convinced. I am gonna go right out and get me one of them there newfangled chi-com scopes cuz they gots to be good. Just ask the guys from Osprey....

    Hey, wait a sec....

    Hmmmm, I don't think im gonna take the chance that the 1 in 50 scopes works "OK" from Osprey. It sounds like they are selling cheap crap and their support sucks.

    Pretty much convinces me that even though they may have 1 or 2 that weren't total turdlings, I am not going to be the next Guinea Pig.

    I will stay with well known brands with good support and good reps.
     
  20. crossrhodes

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    I can't believe they are still pushing their scopes on this site. So few happy customers and lots of disappointed ones.
     
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    So far I'm a happy camper with my 10-40x50 Osprey It's not a $1000 scope which I can't afford. It is a very good value for the $180 I spent at a local gun shop for it. The local shop offered an over the counter exchange if I had problems. I have it mounted on my anshutz 64 I've owned since it was new in the 70's, and am using it for 50 yard benchrest. The photo has a 50yrd and 100yrd target along with some various ammo I've been testing. In the past before my eyes gave out I always shot iron three position at 50ft and ammo wasn't so critical.
     

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    For those who like Ziess and Leopold, give IOR a shot. After using a few IOR products they are the only ones I go to now. $$$$ yes, but incredibly robust and they have Schott Glass....
     
  23. Magnumdood

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    Osprey/NC Star/ATN/(Fill in the blank) are all basically the same chinese junk. The damned scopes tubes and erectors look identical. The bulbous look of the ocular housing...same old crap. Save yourself some grief and buy a trusted brand.
     
  24. Joker7940

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    I want to echo what I read once from someone else's post elswhere. "Buying an expensive scope was the worst buy I ever made..........Now I have to replace all my s*****y scopes!" :) I have to echo that with much enthusiasm. I saved for a Nightforce and now can't even look at my Barskas, BSAs, Nc stars, Eagle eye, Simmons', Tascos ETC ETC without wincing. Sure... I have had a decent experience with all of those (excluding Nc star) and they have kept me shooting over many years. Yet again like so many others have said why spend $1500 for an AR or a 700 or even $3000 on a BMG and spend $125 on the optics? For all you out there wanting to pinch pennies good on ya. However if you buy a quality scope you will never go back I promise. Now I see all the money I have WASTED on cheap scopes when I could have gotten some nice scopes and swapped them on my rilfes with some qd rings (4x$250 barskas=1 nightforce benchrest) All that time I was pinching pennies I could have just bought a damn NF and been shooting the same pennies at 400 yds! (defacing money is illegal don't try at home)..... So....Anyone want to buy some scopes? ;) For low price but quality try Millet, I would have more of those but like I said I am completly ruined when it comes to scopes. NF or bust.
     
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  25. dcsafety

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    My limited experience

    I'm not on here very often and I don't need a bunch of crap about me being a plant. I just want to say against my better judgment I bought one because I wanted to do some load development prior to shooting my AR in competition this summer. I figured WOW a 6x24 with rings for $179 out the door at the NRA convention in NC. Why not! I'm to cheap to spend the $700-$1000 on a good scope. If I would have read this thread I wouldn't have bought it.

    Well for my money I have no complaints. four shots to zero it at a 100yds and Ive put over 100 rds through it with no problem.

    I'll admit the eye relief sucks but I've never used anything over 9x before.

    Also thanks for the info on the caps, I did have a hard time hearing and feeling the clicks before I tightened them. That's it for what its worth.

    Semper Fi

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    Vietnam 68-69
     
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