Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by Nature Boy, Feb 18, 2021.
Here’s his rifle
Here’s a thread on ASF where he shares some of the details on his rifle and load
10 shoot groups mean a lot of time for wind to change, barrel heat level to change etc.
Many of the 1,000 yard clubs shoot 5 round groups and the 5 round record is under 1.5" in both the IBS and NBRSA sanctioning bodies.
When we look at old articles and feel smart because our groups are smaller, we are not accounting for the old timers' habit of shooting ten shot groups. Sure, bullets and barrels are better, but we are also shooting half as many of them. Or less; I see a lot of brag targets with three shots.
NBRSA Heavy is 10 shots
Deep Creek is IBS we shoot HG 10 shots
I bet he still can’t get the smile off his face.
and then I saw the size of that BR target.
That's a far cry from getting a 10x-100 in an f-class or palma match.
That X-ring is *ridiculously* small.
By comparison 1,000 yard f-class targets have a 10" x-ring. The x-ring AND 10 ring are pretty much the same size of his entire target.
That target he's holding up looks comparable to an MR52, which is what we use to simulate a 500 yard midrange target at 200 yards on a reduced range NRA high power shooting event.
I shoot high master in f-class - but that guy's group at 1,000 yards looks like my normal group at 300 yards!
From one dirty "F'er" to another, you're absolutely right, that is ridiculously small. What I'm going to say in no way diminishes his achievement.
Comparing F Class to bench rest is hard to do for one primary difference: F Class has to wait on pit service between shots and the stool shooters can let multiple shots fly when conditions are favorable.
With that said, the current F Class 1,000 yard record is an astonishing 200 - 22x. That's 22 shots inside 5", and waiting 5-6 seconds between shots, if pit service is good.
Both of these records may never be broken
I think it looks smaller every year. Lol
Having shot some F class, I think the F-T/R record of 200 17X may be even more impressive. Hard holding with a .308 on a bipod.
Having trouble getting that to sink in.
Hell of a lot easier to manage that MOA at 100, 200, even 300 yards (and that's still a hell of a task)
1000 yards? Man, oh man.
The best 10 shot group I ever put out with my competition rifle was 0.24 MOA on a 10 shot string at 300 yards in a practice session before a competition weekend. And that was *perfect* conditions, absolutely calm, and probably my best day ever shouldering a rifle.
There is absolutely zero chance I could do that at 1,000 yards. Zero.
None, nadda, zip, zilch.
The variables all get logarithmically worse (or nearly so) as you get further downrange. A *tiny* difference in wind at any point along that trajectory and you're way off at the terminal end.
The best part is this is NOT the type of rifle that they want to ban. Let that sink in! Awesome shooting.
I tried to shoot 1000yrds with a 30-06, I was shooting at 2x4 steel, I was able to hit a 12" plate at 600yrds but it took 8 rnds to hit steel at 1000, and I couldn't do it repeatedly, maybe set it on its side to help with the wind , I'm looking forward to trying it again and taking notes like I've done for 600yrds. We usually just have a cookout and shooting weekend when we set up our long range rifle targets.
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