New Model 65 K-Frame

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The NRA 25 yard slow fire target is the B-16, and the 50' target is the B-2.

Since you're referring to a 6 o'clock hold, I assume "bottom of the bullseye" means bottom of the black, which, on the B-16 and B-2 targets is 5.32" and 3.07" across, respectively. If so, respective dead centers are 2.66" and 1.54" above the bottom of the black.


Yes, certainly I meant at the bottom of the black. Once you see where the gun is shooting, you can compensate. Maybe I should have just said that the sights are supposed to be "on" at 15 yards with 158 grain bullets. It'd have saved me a lot of typing...

This isn't rocket science. Once you have a reasonably good aiming point at that range, just see where the bullets hit.
 
Hey guys, what holsters are you all using for these K-frames? I just bought a nice 10-8 4" HB and I am looking for a holster for it. OWB is fine and I would like i to have thumb-break retention. I have looked at Lobo Leather as Well as BigRob Leather. Still thinking which direction to go. This will be a woods gun with some cooler weather carry thrown in.

I'm trying to decide between a pancake style holster or a belt holster with a belt tunnel or loop. I am worried about the gun sticking out too far. I know the pancake will pull the butt of the gun in tighter to my body. With a holster with a belt tunnel or loop, I am wondering if the gun will stick too far off the side of my belt.
 
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I've had mine a good while and keep it loaded and in a good place so it's handy. I've even fired it with black powder loads and it seems to be accurate with those as well.

 
Most of the fixed sight Smith & Wesson revolvers that I have handled left the factory with their sights very well regulated. However, I find the sights on the fixed sight stainless steel guns are invisible in many lighting situations. I fix this problem with a sharpie marker on the rear sight and Testor's model paint on the front sights. I find coloring the sights is a big improvement.

I have also gotten acceptable results using nail polish on the sights.
 
I do not plan on shooting any real hot loads in this gun. I have a Ruger Blackhawk that I use for hot loads. Plan on loading some 158g bullets over Unique to try this weekend. 1100-1150fps will be plenty of "punch" for what I need. Lone Star thanks for the tip about the 38 Plus P rounds from Buffalo Bore.
 
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The previous owner had put "something red" on the front sight and it does make the sight stand out more.
 
Tried out some loads today using 158g Lasercast bullet and 6.2 to 6.6g of Unique. Good accuracy with 6.4 and 6.6g of Unique. Will try some loads at 6.5g to 6.7g and see what works best.
 
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I used the 25 yard sort. I'm sure the 50 foot size will suffice. A six o'clock hold is on the bottom of the bullseye. The bullets will then ideally hit center. This is with 158 grain loads. Lighter, faster bullets have less dwell time in the bore and will hit lower, as the barrel has less time to rise in recoil. You will want to get some life-size targets of snakes, deer, humans, etc. for practice on animals, once you know where the gun and load are shooting. Try squirrel and rabbit targets as far out as you think you can make clean kills in the field.

I have found Ruger and S&W fixed sights to be pretty close to "on" most of the time. Colts are notorious for needing to have the barrel turned slightly by a gunsmith who actually is worthy of the name. That said, I have fired a SAA .45 and a New Service .45 Colt at 25 yards with excellent results. The NS with a 5.5-inch barrel was dead center at that range and shot groups as tight as my S&W M-29, which was a real tack-driver. I suspect that a prior owner had had the Colt adjusted, but have no way to know. Ammo was Remington 250 grain factory stuff.

One time when I was a USAF cop, I drew a Colt Official Police on the range. The sights were so far off that I had to negotiate with the Rangemaster and get a S&W Victory Model to complete my qualification. I managed to salvage the day, but only shot a Marksman score. Had I not been using that Colt at first, I think I'd have made Expert.

Col. Chas. Askins told me that when he was chief marksmanship instructor for the USBP, he ordered a bunch of Colt NS .38 Specials. He had to turn the barrels on almost all to get the sights dead on before issuing the guns. I asked why he didn't just order S&W .38-44 Heavy Duty guns. He said candidly that he got on well with the Colt reps, but considered the S&W people to be elitist snobs. AND FOR GOOD REASON! Prices should have been similar, especially on a large government order.

If you want more from me on fixed sights, please put a quarter in the slot. :D
 
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