Rob96
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When I get to check it out I will let you all know which it is. Thanks for all of the info.
New Model Blackhawk 45LC Loads
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texagun
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Driftwood Johnson:
Excellent posts with accurate and useful information. Thanks for the great photos and the accompanying text. You, along with rcmodel, CraigC, Bob Wright, and a few others are always excellent sources of information. My thanks to all.
Excellent posts with accurate and useful information. Thanks for the great photos and the accompanying text. You, along with rcmodel, CraigC, Bob Wright, and a few others are always excellent sources of information. My thanks to all.
Arkansas Paul
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It would handle as warm a load as any of them will handle.
I have a NM Blackhawk in .45 Colt and I've played around with some hot loads, ones that are downright crazy. The gun handled them fine, but I've determined that it doesn't take that. If you want to do it now and then for fun, knock yourself out. I like to as well just for the wow effect.
But I've come to settle on two loads for most purposes. The standard 8.5 grains of Unique and a 255 grain SWC will do anything you need to do with it. I also use 17 grains of 2400 with the same bullet for a little extra umph. The 2400 load is not anything crazy but clicks along at a little over 1,000 fps. Plenty for any animal in the lower 48.
Rob96
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Well, I have verification that it is the large frame. Even though I won't take it to max its good knowing its strong enough.
Driftwood Johnson
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When you get it, remove the cylinder and compare it to the photo I posted. It will resemble the cylinder in the center. That is how you can know for sure. When I get a chance I will measure the distance between chambers and post the information.
Probably because since they've never ever condoned the use of "Ruger only" loads, they are indifferent to our problem of deciding which of their guns are suitable for "Ruger only" loads.
My personal solution was to just keep all my 45 Colt loads to "safe in everything levels" besides 8.5 gr of Unique behind a 255gr hard cast SWC will do anything I'm likely to need a pistol to do.
Rob96
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I will be certain to do that Drift
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I have the new vaquero version while not as strong it will get the job done 
I have an old 3-screw Blackhawk 45, a 'new' transfer-bar Blackhawk 45, and a "New" Vaquero 45
The 'New' is good to 150% of traditional Colt SAA limits, while the full-up Blackhawks are good to 200%.
The Vaquero is the most natural handler/pointer I have, and its 270gr Keith at 1,1,00 fps is more than enough.
The 'New' is good to 150% of traditional Colt SAA limits, while the full-up Blackhawks are good to 200%.
The Vaquero is the most natural handler/pointer I have, and its 270gr Keith at 1,1,00 fps is more than enough.
Driftwood Johnson
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Where did you get that information? Sounds a bit extreme to me.
Here you go, Trek: http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm
The bullets are cast with a "Ruger Only" MP Cramer style mold.
The bullets are cast with a "Ruger Only" MP Cramer style mold.
USSR
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Spoke with John on several occasions, quite the guy. Having a S&W 25-5, he was my go-to guy for loads. With the 270gr SWC's, I use his 13.0gr HS-6 load quite often. Also use 18.0gr of 2400 and 22.0gr of 4227 for 20k-25k psi loads.
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Driftwood Johnson
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Well, good luck to you with your super, super warthog loads in 45 Colt. I have no need nor desire to shoot those kinds of loads. Most of my 45 Colt rounds are full of Black Powder.
Rob96
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Drift, it's the same as the cylinder in the center of your picture. Good to go!
Driftwood, I stick mostly with the HS-6 loads at 1100fps. The extra 200 ft/sec from the max loaded H-110 doesn't lead the barrel, but i'm not able to shoot these loads as accurately as the HS-6 rounds.
I mostly wanted to see what difference the extra velocity would have on this bullet. My test media (because it's cheap and readily available at home depot) was shredded rubber mulch. I cast the flat nose versions of this bullet with water dropped wheel weight and enough tin added for fillout. The hollow points I use 20:1 lead:tin. The bullet on the bottom was a 357 158 grain sjhp loaded to 1250fps that was put in there for a comparison to that caliber which gets to about 17" penetration.
Bullets I have cast since this test for the solid configuration I no longer water drop. Now, at 1100fps, the solids mushroom about as much as the one in the upper right corner and penetrates about 30" of mulch. Again, out of the Bisley Blackhawk, these rounds are quite pleasant to shoot.
I mostly wanted to see what difference the extra velocity would have on this bullet. My test media (because it's cheap and readily available at home depot) was shredded rubber mulch. I cast the flat nose versions of this bullet with water dropped wheel weight and enough tin added for fillout. The hollow points I use 20:1 lead:tin. The bullet on the bottom was a 357 158 grain sjhp loaded to 1250fps that was put in there for a comparison to that caliber which gets to about 17" penetration.
Bullets I have cast since this test for the solid configuration I no longer water drop. Now, at 1100fps, the solids mushroom about as much as the one in the upper right corner and penetrates about 30" of mulch. Again, out of the Bisley Blackhawk, these rounds are quite pleasant to shoot.
Jim Watson
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Ruger has not been logical in their model designations, but as said, they are not going to condone anything but factory loads anyhow.
It still bugs me that people put the New Vaquero and the .357 Flattop frame reissue in the same category as old wrought iron Colts and mild steel imports. These are big strong revolvers and if they won't handle the overloads that the ones on .44 Magnum frames will, they will still shoot ammunition that is over my fun threshold. The "Cowboy Load" business is nonsense.
I think if you could track down one of the .44 Magnum Flattop reissues you would have struck gold.
It still bugs me that people put the New Vaquero and the .357 Flattop frame reissue in the same category as old wrought iron Colts and mild steel imports. These are big strong revolvers and if they won't handle the overloads that the ones on .44 Magnum frames will, they will still shoot ammunition that is over my fun threshold. The "Cowboy Load" business is nonsense.
I think if you could track down one of the .44 Magnum Flattop reissues you would have struck gold.
Vern Humphrey
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That's about 10,000 psi too much. Stick with .45 ACP +P (23,000 PSI)
Ed Ames
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I have a question...
I recently saw an ad for a convertable .45c/.45acp new model blackhawk. What threw me off is that it listed the frame as aluminum. That's just the grip frame, right? Ruger never made a Blackhawk with aluminum actual frame, did they?
I recently saw an ad for a convertable .45c/.45acp new model blackhawk. What threw me off is that it listed the frame as aluminum. That's just the grip frame, right? Ruger never made a Blackhawk with aluminum actual frame, did they?
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