New (not surplus), inexpensive, carbine-length, bolt-action centerfire rifles?

[jpwilly]

If your going to cut the barrel of and AXIS or other rifle don't get the 30-06. A 308 would be a better selection with an 18" barrel seems about right to me.

 

[Inebriated]

^ How so? .30-06 will allow more powder, to make up for that barrel loss.

 

[xxjumbojimboxx]

cz 527 carbine, have no idea what american prices are however

8-900 bucks, dont even bother unless you can find one in 7.62x39... I have an interarms mark x in that caliber... sweet lil gun, think i paid 400 for it

 

[jpwilly]

How so? .30-06 will allow more powder, to make up for that barrel loss.

Precisely, more unburnt powder bellowing out of the short barrel seems like a waste to me. If I'm not mistaken 24" is optimal bbl length for 30-06 and 308 is typically around 22". Both will suffer with a shorter bbl but the 30-06 will suffer more.

 

[greenlion]

Have you thought about the Single Shot Rifles like the CVA Scout? Those are very compact rifles. The 20 inch barrel compact versions are shorter than most 18" bolt guns.

 

[Inebriated]

Precisely, more unburnt powder bellowing out of the short barrel seems like a waste to me. If I'm not mistaken 24" is optimal bbl length for 30-06 and 308 is typically around 22". Both will suffer with a shorter bbl but the 30-06 will suffer more.

Even if .30-06 suffers more, it'll still be moving faster than the .308.

 

[jpwilly]

Even if .30-06 suffers more, it'll still be moving faster than the .308.

This is why I'd go 308 instead of 30-06. The 30-06 works best between 22"-24". A 308 will do just about anything from an 18-20" barrel that a 30-06 will do at the same length, but with less recoil, muzzle blast, and you can choose a lighter short action rifle.

Sure the 06 may have a more FPS but I think the trade off isn't worth it...YMMV.