New regulations for hunters and shooters traveling outside the country...

[H&Hhunter]

Besides 4457's, it seems that in April new requirements will go into force when you travel from the U.S. with firearms and ammunition. With less than 3 firearms or 1,000 rounds of ammunition, there is an export license exception, but you will now be required to file electronic export information.

There is an online quiz that you can take to help you determine whether an export license or an exemption applies.

See: https://www.ice.gov/exec/ice-gov/cpiquiz.htm

And, here are some FAQ's that should shed more light on the topic:

https://www.ice.gov/cpi/faq

Plain and simple folks this is federal registration.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Here is the letter that I sent to my state representatives


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Dear

I would like to make your office aware of some new regulations/requirements being put out by U. S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement regarding individuals temporarily exporting personal hunting/sporting firearms and ammunition.

Here is a link to their web site: https://www.ice.gov/cpi/faq

If you read down through the “Overveiw” tab section, about half-way down, it refers to the “International Traffic in Arms Regulation” (ITAR) as well as several other sources.

To summarize, this is a new requirement wherein a private citizen is going to be required to enter personal information into a Federal database to include the details of personally own firearms he/she is planning to take out of the US to a foreign country either for sport hunting or competitive shooting. If the person is taking less than three firearms and less than 1000 rounds of loaded ammunition they still have to go through the entire process starting with this questionnaire: https://www.ice.gov/exec/ice-gov/cpiquiz.htm just to obtain a “license exemption”.

Once you complete the questions: Q-1 yes, Q-2 top three checked, Q-3 top two checked, Q-4 rifle, pistol, or ammunition selected, you end up here: https://www.ice.gov/exec/ice-gov/cpiquiz.htm#

Clicking on the AESDirect link takes you to this page: http://aesdirect.census.gov/ that seems to be “hosted” by the U.S. Census Bureau. Apparently, this new process is supposed to become “official” at the beginning of April (this is NOT an April Fool’s joke).

I have several difficulties with this:

1. As a private person, not involved in the arm/ammunition export business, I am going to be required to provide my personal information as well as my personally owned firearm information into a Federally maintained data base – basically Federally register my personal firearms.

2. In addition to the complexity of registering and setting up an account, as part of the registration process, each applicant will have to pass a 30-question examination.

3. This process and “license exemption” will be required for every trip outside of the US with private/personal sporting/hunting firearms and/or ammunition.

4. While this is the last concern it is my greatest. It seems they are using the UN Treaty on International Arms Trafficking as the basis for this new requirement. Last time I checked, the US Senate has NOT approved this UN Treaty and it is being used as a back-door method of Federal Firearms Registration of US citizens' private, legally owned firearms and ammunition similar to the recent ATF attempt to ban the 5.56 M855 “Green Tip” ammunition.

I hope you will take the time to look into this as I believe it is another attempted overreach of authority by either a single department or combination of departments.

v/r

 

[oneounceload]

And is anyone surprised by this? The current admin on BOTH sides has stated support for this along with UN control over this

 

[climbnjump]

From the questionnaire:

Question 2
The firearm(s) or ammunition:
(Select all that apply. At least one selection must be made before continuing.)
-1- Are for your exclusive use;
-2- Will remain under your exclusive ownership and will NOT be resold or transferred to another person; and,
-3- Will be in your possession upon return to the U.S.?
or
-4- None apply.

So, a couple of years ago, I drove through Canada to Alaska with one of my rifles and also one belonging to a relative who flew up there. Upon meeting up with him in Alaska, I "transferred" his rifle to him and we went caribou hunting.

So of the 3 check boxes, I would be able to check only box 3. Continuing to the next step shows that under those conditions, I actually WOULD have to apply for an export license - no exemption in that case.

ETA:
Of course the obvious way around that would have been for my relative to have taken his rifle on the plane, but still...

 

[Pelo801]

May I use your letter as a template for a letter I will send to my representative?

 

[H&Hhunter]

May I use your letter as a template for a letter I will send to my representative?

Yes, please do...

 

[Pelo801]

Thank you, I will. I would also like to pass it along for others to use. I feel like our push back needs to come from all sides.

 

[Ryanxia]

I'm thinking the letter might want to be condensed a little while maintaining the points you mentioned.

And don't get me started on the creeping threat of ITAR.

 

[LemmyCaution]

May I use your letter as a template for a letter I will send to my representative?

If you're going to do that, please note that the apostrophe is in the wrong place on "citizen's."

It should be citizens', as the word is plural, in this instance.

 

[bikerdoc]

Letters and phone call made.
Passed on to many. Cant belive the arrogance of some beaurocrats.