New rifle with rusty bore?

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Hi folks,
This is a first for me. NIB PTR91 gorgeous outside kinda rusty on the inside. Have you ever purchased a rifle with rust in the bore brand new? If its just a fine coat of rust should I just clean it and shoot happily ever after? What would you do? I am assuming its rust and not some other brown powder in there after all what else could it be... IMG_20150217_210910161_zpscjeb98sl.gif
 
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I would contact the seller and see what course of action THEY want you to take.

Had I sold it, I would ask you to clean it and shoot it to determine if it runs or not and go from there.

I suppose it *could* be some kind of oily residue that will easily wipe away and never come back...
 
It could be one of two things.

1. It is residual hot bluing residue they failed to clean out after they blued it?

2. They test fired it with corrosive ammo and didn't clean it afterward?

In either case?

I would not be a happy camper if I paid full price for a new rifle & got that!

Clean it with a bronze bore brush, bore solvent, & patches and see what it looks like?

If it comes out dark or pitted?
Somebody got some Splain'n Too Do, and they owe you a new rifle with a new shiny bore you paid for.

rc
 
Buy-bye rifle.

I'd immediately return the rifle for another or get my money back.
 
I just swabbed the end with a q-tip to see how easily it would wipe out, and it felt like sandpaper. I shined a light from the breech and its rough all the way down. There is rust to a lesser extent in the chamber and on the face of the bolt.
 
Never bought any new firearm with a barrel that looked like that.

I certainly would not clean the barrel. Before you do anything to the barrel, I would contact the seller and have the seller look at the barrel. IMO, unless the condition of the barrel and rust in the chamber/bolt were disclosed, the seller should take the rifle back for another one or give you the money back.
 
There is rust to a lesser extent in the chamber and on the face of the bolt.
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Then, Corrosive ammo without cleaning afterwards.

The bore is ruined.

Try to Get your money back!!

Rc
 
I bet the guy bought it new, fired it with Chinese or some other corrosive ammo, found out what it did to the barrel, and unloaded it. New in the box? Sure.

Jim
 
RC,
What types of .308 are corrosive?
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From the web?
Some of the corrosive 7.62 Nato ball ammo for sale in the U.S. in the past 20 years.
*Bulgarian steel case head stamp 10 and the date at 6 o'clock.
*Czech brass case marked 308W
*Chicom steel case with fake British head stamps, head stamp RG 60 L2A2
*Syrian brass case with Arabic markings.
*Taiwan brass case headstamp 7.62 and at 6 o'clock 82
*Indian brass case head stamp KF 74 7,62A
*Yugo brass case 7.62mm orange primer sealer
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rc
 
Jim k I just picked this up yesterday and I have receipts to prove it. I've never shot it.
 
online vendor, shipped to my ffl transferred to me yesterday.
Purchased NIB and the rest of the rifle looks that way. Dripping with packing oil, clean inside receiver rails (pretty clean) No scratches or dings. Removed the flash hider getting ready to install factory new PWS brake and this little surprise.
They are supposed to contact me today.
 
If the grease is stuck on like glue it might.

Still no excuse for sending a rifle in such condition to a customer.

Maybe the vendor can ask gun shop can run a series of solvent soaked brushes/patches in the bore and report the findings for resolution?
 
oh brother
I just read about this happening to at least two other guys with the same rifle on HK pro forum. Not good news. They must know about it. Hope they treat me right.
 
Ok so the inspection certificate says may 2014 test fire. How bad can a bore rust in nine months. Can it be ruined in nine months?
 
Severe problem. Made me clench. Shorts are stuck. Why did you take possession?
 
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I have seen corrosive primers ruin a bore in a few hours in a humid Northern VA summer. Potassium chloride is nasty stuff!

Jim
 
"Why did you take possession?"

The old problem of buying "on the net". By law, the gun has to be shipped to the buyer's local dealer. But the dealer has no responsibility for its condition and can't "take it back" since he never sold it. The dealer will not (and should not) get involved in dealing with the seller; it is not his business, any more than it is the business of FedEx, the USPS, or whoever the carrier was.

The buyer can simply walk away, but he has already paid for the gun, and he might not want to alienate the dealer, with whom he may want to continue to do business.

If the seller refuses to acknowledge responsibility or to accept return of the item and refund the payment, the only recourse the buyer has is to sue in the seller's home state. That would almost certainly cost more than any ordinary firearm is likely to be worth, something the crooks count on.

FWIW, several years ago, the buyer of a fake sword took the seller to court and won. But he admitted that it cost him almost $100k to get a settlement for $25k, something that was possible only because he was a wealthy man fighting for a matter of principal. Not many of us can do that.

Jim
 
I usually do not bore scope a brand new gun. Might have to start. That would require me to get a bore scope or light. And you can't really see in the bore without taking the flash hider off. I needed a tool to do that.
 
Rifle is going back issue is being resolved. I want to thank members here for the advice and input. I just was needing info on the significance of this, next steps and you guys helped.
 
[Rifle is going back issue is being resolved. I want to thank members here for the advice and input. I just was needing info on the significance of this, next steps and you guys helped/QUOTE]
Just curious but did they offer an explanation as to why this happened?
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