commygun
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If it passes with the beta testers I'll be getting one of those!
New Ruger LC9... anyone compare the specs with the Kahr PM9 yet?
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tomwalshco
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on the money, harmon.That's what I was getting at$50 says that, internally, it's a PF-9 ripoff just like the LCP is a P3AT ripoff.
Triggers are pretty darn important to me. I just can't imagine the Ruger's trigger is as smooth as any Kahr.
Hanzo581
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Hey can you guys point me to when I can get any Kahr at Kel-tec prices?
tomwalshco
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Buds - http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21
Sorry, misread your post. Not happening, brother...
Sorry, misread your post. Not happening, brother...
Hanzo581
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Ok, I'd like to buy one, where did you get it?
I'l continue to stick with my Kahr CW-9. 100% reliability in both of mine since day one.
Those looking to acquire one should be able to get it for between 400-450. Check Budsgunshop and Cabelas (believe it or not, they often have had the CW-9 on 50 dollars off at two cabelas I have been to in the last few months, so about 400 bucks.)
I tried the PM9 and decided I liked the balance and feel of the CW-9. Both come back on to target quickly for good shot succession. Mind the break in period, I didn't have any problems with my two since round one, but I know some people have, during the break in period.)
I have had Sigs, Berettas, Glocks, Rugers, I compete in IDPA with a Springfield XD9 and TRP 45(favorite gun of all, but too big to cc for me), and in the end, I have come to have a GREAT respect for my Kahrs.
Surprisingly accurate for small guns.
I'm wary to try a new ruger right at launch.
(ESPECIALLY the way the last few ruger launches have gone)
Those looking to acquire one should be able to get it for between 400-450. Check Budsgunshop and Cabelas (believe it or not, they often have had the CW-9 on 50 dollars off at two cabelas I have been to in the last few months, so about 400 bucks.)
I tried the PM9 and decided I liked the balance and feel of the CW-9. Both come back on to target quickly for good shot succession. Mind the break in period, I didn't have any problems with my two since round one, but I know some people have, during the break in period.)
I have had Sigs, Berettas, Glocks, Rugers, I compete in IDPA with a Springfield XD9 and TRP 45(favorite gun of all, but too big to cc for me), and in the end, I have come to have a GREAT respect for my Kahrs.
Surprisingly accurate for small guns.
I'm wary to try a new ruger right at launch.
(ESPECIALLY the way the last few ruger launches have gone)
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Katana8869
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They lost me when they added that stupid loaded chamber indicator on the top. If it is anything like the one that is on the SR9C, obnoxious just barely describes it and anything that sticks out is a big no-no on a pocket gun.
JohnGalt88
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Ruger is a little late to the party but it will probably sell like crazy, don't really think these are pocket guns, The LC9/pf9/cw9 is just slightly to big to pocket carry however in a good holster you will forget they are there.
With Ruger's name on the gun it will sell better than the pf9 because kel tec's have a "cheapish" image (not hating on kel tec) and nobody knows what a Kahr is.
IMO i doubt it will be the gun that the Kahr CW9 is though as mine has been perfect since day one and is enjoyable to shoot.
With Ruger's name on the gun it will sell better than the pf9 because kel tec's have a "cheapish" image (not hating on kel tec) and nobody knows what a Kahr is.
IMO i doubt it will be the gun that the Kahr CW9 is though as mine has been perfect since day one and is enjoyable to shoot.
anyone looked at the safety features on the ruger websight?
"SAFETY FEATURES include internal lock, manual safety and patented loaded chamber indicator which provides visual and tactile indication that chamber is loaded."
i see no purpose for an internal lock and actualy hate the idea that their is something inside my firearm which has no other purpous but to make my weapon cease functioning. likewise i fail to see the reasoning for a manual safety on a DAO pistol.
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just finished doing some looking around and came to a realization. a lot of folks are bashing the lc9 because it is a copy of several other manufacture's designes (mostly the pf9). we have the pf-9, the pps, the pm9, the cw9, etc... but in the end that is what is popular at the time; a light, concealable, single stack 9mm. add in a low price and a reputable manufacturer and i see good sales on the horizon for the folks at ruger.
i personally dont like the addition of a manual safety to the design, but that is just me. i know that their are several others that prefer to have the safety as well as several new shooters just getting into CCW who will just feel better knowing they can flip the safety on as needed. yes, "finger off the trigger" is still the best practice and should always be remembered as well as practiced, but i have seen more than a few people new to guns who prefered the option of a safety. this may or may not turn out to be counter-productive in the end but it opened the door for that person to the shooting community and that is a very good thing.
a lot of ccw instructors will tend to suggest smaller guns for concealability as well as the 9mm for ammo cost and reasonable affectivness. the lc9 offers both of those qualities, just like many other manufacturers. but unlike the other comparable 9mms, the ruger is the only one ive seen that has the external safety. i am sure that this will be a huge factor in attracting people new to CCW to ruger as apposed to ruger's competition.
as for me? undecided. personaly not a fan of the safety, but i have been wanting a single-stack 9mm for a while. once i see one i will have to hold it to know. (who knows, maybe my fiance will shoot it and love it? win-win right there. she gets a gun she likes and i get to go get a new one!)
"SAFETY FEATURES include internal lock, manual safety and patented loaded chamber indicator which provides visual and tactile indication that chamber is loaded."
i see no purpose for an internal lock and actualy hate the idea that their is something inside my firearm which has no other purpous but to make my weapon cease functioning. likewise i fail to see the reasoning for a manual safety on a DAO pistol.
***edit***
just finished doing some looking around and came to a realization. a lot of folks are bashing the lc9 because it is a copy of several other manufacture's designes (mostly the pf9). we have the pf-9, the pps, the pm9, the cw9, etc... but in the end that is what is popular at the time; a light, concealable, single stack 9mm. add in a low price and a reputable manufacturer and i see good sales on the horizon for the folks at ruger.
i personally dont like the addition of a manual safety to the design, but that is just me. i know that their are several others that prefer to have the safety as well as several new shooters just getting into CCW who will just feel better knowing they can flip the safety on as needed. yes, "finger off the trigger" is still the best practice and should always be remembered as well as practiced, but i have seen more than a few people new to guns who prefered the option of a safety. this may or may not turn out to be counter-productive in the end but it opened the door for that person to the shooting community and that is a very good thing.
a lot of ccw instructors will tend to suggest smaller guns for concealability as well as the 9mm for ammo cost and reasonable affectivness. the lc9 offers both of those qualities, just like many other manufacturers. but unlike the other comparable 9mms, the ruger is the only one ive seen that has the external safety. i am sure that this will be a huge factor in attracting people new to CCW to ruger as apposed to ruger's competition.
as for me? undecided. personaly not a fan of the safety, but i have been wanting a single-stack 9mm for a while. once i see one i will have to hold it to know. (who knows, maybe my fiance will shoot it and love it? win-win right there. she gets a gun she likes and i get to go get a new one!)
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Gym, good info, and thanks for the pics also.
Suggested retail on the CW9 is $549.00. On the LC9 it's $443.00. Street price on the LC9 will probably end up around $330-350
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Smallest guns in their class, very smooth (if long) trigger pull. I think they're overpriced -- but I think that at $400 for a PM9, all the other slim 9mm's would have to be very worried.
gb6491
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Here's a video of the LC9 in action:
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/first-look-at-the-ruger-lc9-video/7990/
Kudos to PaiN for posting the link on another forum.
Regards,
Greg
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/first-look-at-the-ruger-lc9-video/7990/
Kudos to PaiN for posting the link on another forum.
Regards,
Greg
i actually got a little excited about this -- and then i noticed they added a manual safety. bummer... i'm a fan of the little LCP, and if the LC9 was basically an upsized LCP with same controls, i'd get one. but with the addition of a manual safety i'm afraid i'm out.
You don't have to use the safety!
Jamie B
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Sadly, my PM45 weighs the same as the LC9.
No point in sacrificing firepower for this new gun.
Shame that Ruger, with all of their resources, continues to copy Kel-Tec.
Jamie
No point in sacrificing firepower for this new gun.
Shame that Ruger, with all of their resources, continues to copy Kel-Tec.
Jamie
sidheshooter
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Taking gb6491 one further:
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
"Just getting back from the range with the brand spanking new Ruger LC9, 17.1 ounce 7+1 9mm...initial impressions are that it recoils less than my LCP with Corbin DPX..."
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2011/01/ruger-lc9.html
"Just getting back from the range with the brand spanking new Ruger LC9, 17.1 ounce 7+1 9mm...initial impressions are that it recoils less than my LCP with Corbin DPX..."
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n240sxfnatic
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EXACTLY! People can complain about a manual safety all they want, if you dont like it dont use it. It seems that apparently a safety is a "deal breaker"... makes no sense.
sansone
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me too, I don't care if it's a clone or not
DAdams
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small 9s
Look at all the compact and standard sized nines and it stands to reason there is plenty of room in this size niche. There aren't that many.
Arranged by price.
Rohrbaugh R9
Vaporware9 Boberg.
Kahr PM9
Walther PPS
Ruger LC9
KelTec PF
Sccy 9
Here is a Walther, Kahr and KelTec
MK9 and Rohrbaugh
If I were just starting out looking for a pocket pistol the LC9 would be at the top of the list if I just simply couldn't afford a Kahr or Rohrbaugh.
The thing I have learned over time though is to take my time and save a few extra dollars and get what I really wanted as opposed to something I could "afford" at the time.
Make mine a PM9
Look at all the compact and standard sized nines and it stands to reason there is plenty of room in this size niche. There aren't that many.
Arranged by price.
Rohrbaugh R9
Vaporware9 Boberg.
Kahr PM9
Walther PPS
Ruger LC9
KelTec PF
Sccy 9
Here is a Walther, Kahr and KelTec
MK9 and Rohrbaugh
If I were just starting out looking for a pocket pistol the LC9 would be at the top of the list if I just simply couldn't afford a Kahr or Rohrbaugh.
The thing I have learned over time though is to take my time and save a few extra dollars and get what I really wanted as opposed to something I could "afford" at the time.
Make mine a PM9
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