New Ruger LC9... anyone compare the specs with the Kahr PM9 yet?

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JEB said:
as well as several new shooters just getting into CCW who will just feel better knowing they can flip the safety on as needed. yes, "finger off the trigger" is still the best practice and should always be remembered as well as practiced, but i have seen more than a few people new to guns who prefered the option of a safety.
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This is the reason Ruger has that manual safety. The new to CCW or new to pistols crowd. IMO, just MO. :)
 
If I am going 14+ 0zs, I would prefer the Glock, track record, and more rounds.Plus the ability to use the full spectrum of Glock mags. And the retail is not that big a difference.i don't see it as a great move on Rugers part.
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I pretty much agree with the addition of a few other options than the Glock, as well. If I want a small 9 mm, I'd get a Kahr PM9 (significantly smaller & lighter than this new Ruger). Once you go larger than that, you can pretty much get a nice double stack 9 mm and open up your options significantly. I don't find it that hard to conceal a full-sized firearm, so I would be buying this purely as a pocket BUG, for which this Ruger is too big, IMO.
 
As far as people that say you don't have to use the safety, that isn't good enough for me. As a person that trains myself with no safety to sweep off, what happens if (for whatever reason) the safety is on in a stressful situation? The pistol doesn't fire. I'm delayed in figuring it out if I'm still alive to figure it out.

For people that train with manual safeties obviously you'll have a better chance than me with guns like the LC9. However, I grew up a revolver guy and I like my auto-pistols to work similar to revolvers.

I was just really hoping the LC9 would be more like the LCP or the PF9, than like the Taurus 709. Otherwise, I think it is probably going to be a fine pistol.
 
Safety

Training with a safety is no big deal, I'm sure you will get used to it. ALL 1911 users do.
 
Boberg

Thanks for refreshing my memory. There is that vaporous 9 I was trying to come up with. Shot show is coming up. Do you suppose you can place an order?
 
Where were you complainers when Taurus copied so many of Keltecs design ideas? Or when every body and their brother copied the 1911? Or Taurus copied the Beretta? or when Bersa "borrowed" from Walther? or GLOCK stole the polygonal rifling, polymer frame, and trigger safety from other manufacturers????? Copying is the name of the game in the firearms business and it has been for many, many years. The Springfield 1903 and even the AK47 are adaptations from other designs. But NOW, all the sudden everyone has an issue with it. Give me a break. You guys probably bash Keltec every chance you get gut suddenly you are the champion for them every time Ruger comes out with something new.
 
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As far as people that say you don't have to use the safety, that isn't good enough for me. As a person that trains myself with no safety to sweep off, what happens if (for whatever reason) the safety is on in a stressful situation? The pistol doesn't fire. I'm delayed in figuring it out if I'm still alive to figure it out.

For people that train with manual safeties obviously you'll have a better chance than me with guns like the LC9. However, I grew up a revolver guy and I like my auto-pistols to work similar to revolvers.
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that's correct... saying "if you don't like the safety, don't use it" is really pretty silly for obvious reasons.
 
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LCPor9mm said:
Training with a safety is no big deal, I'm sure you will get used to it. ALL 1911 users do.
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I have guns with manual safeties, but they are not my carry guns. I do not carry 1911 pistols. Not that there is anything wrong with carrying a 1911 pistol. I prefer some version of a DAO carry gun with no manual safety. People choose what works for themselves. :scrutiny:
 
atblis said:
Yeah, that's the only similarity. :rolleyes:
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Post them up. From where I'm sitting the LC9 doesn't look as similar to the PF9 as the LCP does to the 3AT. The LC9 looks to me like a fresh look at the concept. And it's quite a bit heavier than the PF9 and has more features... Do you still consider the S&W M&P pistols to be ripoffs of Glocks?
 
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The PM9 is simply a masterpiece pistol. I'll never forget how
slack jawed impressed I was the first time I shot one. Everything
about it was perfect. The stroke and release of the trigger, perfect.
The felt recoil so light. Great sights. The accuracy amazing. All in
a very pocketable pistol that will handle 9mm +P. I've shot a
number of Kahr pistols and the PM9 is the sweet spot in my humble
opinion, although all Kahr's are excellent guns.

If Ruger gets 80% of the refinement of the PM9 in their LC9, they
will have a winner. It's not quite as compact as the PM9, but it
looks good for it's price point. I would love to shoot one. It's got
righteous sights and I hear the trigger is good.

good shooting, dxr


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As far as people that say you don't have to use the safety, that isn't good enough for me. As a person that trains myself with no safety to sweep off, what happens if (for whatever reason) the safety is on in a stressful situation?
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This is a simple one.... even I can answer it.

Train for/with the equipment you use.
 
Boberg

Boberg

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Thanks for refreshing my memory. There is that vaporous 9 I was trying to come up with. Shot show is coming up. Do you suppose you can place an order?
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It's anybodies guess. Last I read production was delayed due to the grips. This gun is an inch smaller, with a larger barrel length than the LC9. It's also quite a bit more money, of course what is your life worth? Time will tell if they are worth the extra $$$.
 
Local dealer has the LC9 listed for $334.99.
By the way the lifetime warranty is from the dealer, not Ruger.
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LCPor9mm said:
Kokapelli: Who makes the top gun in your post? Looks like a P238.

I have an LCP and am interested in several compact 9's; the LC9 being one of them, the KT PF9, the Kahrs, and this Boberg

http://www.bobergarms.com/notes/XR9_Shorty
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The top gun is a Para Hawg 9. I have a P238 but it's not in the picture. Here is my P238 alongside my PM9 and as you can see the size difference is significant.
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Safety

I have guns with manual safeties, but they are not my carry guns. I do not carry 1911 pistols. Not that there is anything wrong with carrying a 1911 pistol. I prefer some version of a DAO carry gun with no manual safety. People choose what works for themselves.
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I would not presume to tell anyone how to train or what to carry. I am merely pointing out that if the safety is your only objection, you will get over it. If you feel you are incapable of adapting to a sweep of the thumb in a life or death situation, then don't consider the weapon.
 
Para Hawg 9

The top gun is a Para Hawg 9. I have a P238 but it's not in the picture. Here is my P238 alongside my PM9 and as you can see the size difference is significant
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Thanks. Great looking piece.
 
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