New Sigma

[politicalgeek]

Had a gun on layaway at a local gun store, made a few payments but didn't make it back in time to get it off layaway. I went back Friday to see if by chance it might still be in the back or if I could get a credit on what I had already paid off. They didn't have it, but offered credit on the $200 I had already paid off.

Long story short, I ended up with a NIB Sigma 9mm with 5 Hi Cap mags for $250. The store had it marked down to $300 with a $50 rebate from S&W as well as 2 mags from S&W, the store threw in an extra mag as part of their sale.

I've heard mixed reviews, but I am happy with it for what it is: an inexpensive, decent carry/duty gun that tucks away nicely and can put lead on target. Had a chance to go the range and it did OK. Not the tightest groups, but a lot of that is me. Pretty consistent with were the groups hit at 7-15 feet, fairly enjoyable tho shoot and reliable. It fed a box and a half of American Eagle, 100 WWB and some Remington 147grain Golden Sabers.

The trigger will probably be the biggest complaint for this gun. It's not too bad, but I am defiantly not a fan of the striker fired pistols. Or the Polymer/Pseudo-Polymer. I like steel and I like old school. So I'll hang onto this for now, use it for CCW and another house gun, save my money and trade/sell it to help with the purchase of something else. I'm thinking a Browning Hi-Power. I should be able to get something back from this for the deal I got. I would still recommend it for anyone on a budget looking for a decent entry level defensive gun, especially if the price is right.




I'm a little rusty, haven't had a chance to get to the range in the last few months.

 

[varoadking]

7-15 feet,

I admire your honesty and humility, but I must tell you that any piece that will not group better than that, for anyone of any skill level, at that range - has something wrong with it.

Garunteed...

Let someone else shoot it and tell us if that seems to be the case. I'd say it needs to go back to Smith - perhaps a damaged barrel crown...

Get it shooting well so you can enjoy it - it was one helluva bargain...

 

[politicalgeek]

it's NIB...and as I said I'm pretty rusty not being out for a while. When I calm down and actually think about the basics, I shoot well....when I get caught up in the excitement, my groups to h*** in a hand basket. I only run my target out 7-15 feet to set up defensive distance. A lot of it with this one is just learning the trigger pull, getting to the range more and finding the load it likes.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

There's nothing wrong with that gun. If you look, there are a number "groups" where several rounds are touching. The scattergun effect you're seeing is likely a result of the somewhat stiff trigger (it can make you start "pulling" your shots). Once you get used to it and back in form, you'll be surprised how accurate these are.

Work with it. It gets better.

I know. I have 2 of them myself. One does nightstand duty.

 

[dralarms]

Take that gun out to the range and put about 300 to 400 rounds through it. Then the trigger will smooth out and loosen up a little and your groups will get better.

 

[1911user]

Dry fire often. It'll help train you to pull that trigger. I had one, dry fired it several thousand times, sold it, don't miss it all. I'm concerned with rapid fire at 25 yards, not 10 feet, so your needs may be met, mine weren't. If you want to drop some more cash, the M&P is a much nicer solution in my experience.

 

[TimboKhan]

I admire your honesty and humility, but I must tell you that any piece that will not group better than that, for anyone of any skill level, at that range - has something wrong with it.

From a marksmanship perspective, I disagree entirely with this assumption. If your rusty, in a hurry and aren't paying attention to the basics, particularly with a trigger your not used too, you sure enough will shoot this bad with any gun. I have seen people shoot a whole lot worse at similar range.

I would also point out that those 10 meter air rifle targets aren't the biggest targets in the world, so most of those would be center-mass hits. A pistol doesn't have to shoot into a 1/2 inch to be an effective defensive weapon.

 

[nwilliams]

Sounds like you got a good deal on that gun, $250 isn't bad at all.

The triggers are pretty bad on those, I had one years ago, actually it was my first poly gun.

You really need to go easy on that trigger, it may feel like you need to pull it hard which will send your shots consistently low, so just pull it smoothly and keep your eye on the front sight. They are reasonably accurate guns despite their mixed reputation I've seen people shoot them extremely well.

Again my suggestion, watch your trigger control and your front sight

Good luck with your new gun don't give up!

 

[politicalgeek]

It will serve me well. The air pistol targets were the only bulk targets at the range, I forgot to grab some on my walmart run. I will switch for a DA/SA or SA handgun at some point, but as many of you pointed out, it is a pretty decent gun and just needs some trigger time.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[massglockman]

i would say with practice ull tighten them groups right up i dont care for the sigma series pistols but for the price what the heck might as well

 

[romma]

It beats throwing insults at a BG if you need it.

 

[geophysicishooter]

I have a sigma in .40. I like it. It's not the end-all, be-all but its a good piece and enjoy carrying it. In fact, I'm more comfortable caryying it than my STI right now, but that's mostly due to holster issues. The thing I like about it is that when I carrry it, along with it comes a whole box of golden sabers. where it would take four clips to hold that much ammo in the 1911. If I can't make my case with 25 rounds, heaven help me, I'm in the wrong argument.

The trigger does stink though but I don't think that there's much to be done about that. I ike the fact that it's so simple to take apart and put back together. It's been a good gun to learn on.

Oh, I forgot to mention. When you're on the range and putting alot of ammo through it, watch the pin in the trigger-safety. It has a way of working itself loose if you're not carefull. I was on the line and shooting one day when a clip or so through my second bos, I noticed the pin was maybe a 1/4 of the way out. I used the end of a bullet to put it back in place and ever since then, I've made sure that I check that everytime I interact with that gun.

 

[bhp9mm]

good price with all the mags i have the 40ve its a ok gun for what u pay for it and mine has not jammed.

 

[hcb42]

Sigma

I have the 9ve model Sigma. The trigger is solid but does get better the more you shoot it. Yes, it does take a bit to get used to it. Yes, your groupings will improve once you get used to the longer pull and break of the DAO design. The internals aren't bad. Had mine for a year now, and it's been totally dependable. It's one of those you can't accidentally shoot designs. You need to commit to pulling the trigger all the way. For me it was a keeper. And for the price you can't go wrong. One of the hidden buys in the gun world. Just my view.