AUTIGER04
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I have a buddy that wants a S&W 9mm Sigma. Are they any good and what should he expect to pay for a new one? Do they accept Hi Cap Mags?
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Nope its not me Im getting a GLOCK.
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Nope its not me Im getting a GLOCK.
S&W Sigma.
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George Hill
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Avoid the Sigma.
Avoid the Sigma at all costs.
If the Sigma is the last automatic in the gun case... then buy a revolver.
Avoid the Sigma at all costs.
If the Sigma is the last automatic in the gun case... then buy a revolver.
10-Ring
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Even S&W makes a better poly gun than the Sigma! GEt the SW99 instead
Flashpoint
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Why the Sigma?
Ala Dan
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Can you say "Funky" ?
They tried to copy the Glock, but failed miserably! 
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
They tried to copy the Glock, but failed miserably!
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
Gordon
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Well guys , thru a trade I wound up with 10 Sigmas; 9mm & 5 .40's. I sold them off at $300 each with 2 high caps each. I kept 1 each 9mm and 40. It makes the perfect truck(or console) gun. Damned if the 40 isnt VERY accurate (3" at 15 yards ALLTHETIME) and has NEVER jammed or choked or malfed in 1000+ rds of HP! Have had a few malfs in 9mm in a couple thousand rounds and sights are too low (hits way high) . See my for sale add for high caps for $50 each(plug). Hard trigger but useable . Best $300 buy around IMHO!
BlackJack
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I would buy and use a Sigma without any reservations if I needed an inexpensive pistol. I have owned four different Sigmas at one time or another so I have a lot of experience with them. Also both of my kids have Sigmas and rely on them.
The grip is ergonomically designed and is a better fit for me than the Glock or almost any other pistol. The gun is safe and easy to use and is easily as reliable and accurate as any competitors, especially given the price.
That having been said, I have encountered at one time or another all the problems you hear people whining about. I have had light primer strikes in my first Sigma (a pre-VE) and had S&W fix the problem. I have had occassional failures to feed or eject (jams) which were corrected by the use the newer 10rd magazines or hi-caps. But all of these problems and more I've had in Glocks, SIGs, and a host of other pistol brands. And all of these problems can be addressed and corrected.
It never fails to amaze me that people will badmouth the Sigma but praise to the heavens their $700 SIG, Glock or 1911 which can have the same problems the Sigma can have, not to mention how readily they reject the testimony of Sigma shooters who like their pistols and have never had problems with them.
Bottom line is, if you've got $300, you can get a reliable accurate pistol that will meet basic needs. It is called the Sigma.
The grip is ergonomically designed and is a better fit for me than the Glock or almost any other pistol. The gun is safe and easy to use and is easily as reliable and accurate as any competitors, especially given the price.
That having been said, I have encountered at one time or another all the problems you hear people whining about. I have had light primer strikes in my first Sigma (a pre-VE) and had S&W fix the problem. I have had occassional failures to feed or eject (jams) which were corrected by the use the newer 10rd magazines or hi-caps. But all of these problems and more I've had in Glocks, SIGs, and a host of other pistol brands. And all of these problems can be addressed and corrected.
It never fails to amaze me that people will badmouth the Sigma but praise to the heavens their $700 SIG, Glock or 1911 which can have the same problems the Sigma can have, not to mention how readily they reject the testimony of Sigma shooters who like their pistols and have never had problems with them.
Bottom line is, if you've got $300, you can get a reliable accurate pistol that will meet basic needs. It is called the Sigma.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I had a Sigma that jammed more then Shmuckers.
If the Sigma is the cure, its better to die of the disease.
If Sigmas were falling from the sky like rain drops, the safest place to be would be outside since they would never hit anything they should.
If Santa Clause came down the chimney with a sack full of Sigmas for me, I'd take the coal and tell him to never come back.
Given the choice between a Sigma and Twinkie for self-defense, I will take the Twinkie. Perhaps the bad guy will be distracted by the golden sponge cake and creamy filling.
I would have used the Sigma as a paper weight, but I value the paper too much.
Anyone that tells you they have a functioning Sigma either works for S&W or has mistaken their Glock for a Sigma.
If the Sigma is the cure, its better to die of the disease.
If Sigmas were falling from the sky like rain drops, the safest place to be would be outside since they would never hit anything they should.
If Santa Clause came down the chimney with a sack full of Sigmas for me, I'd take the coal and tell him to never come back.
Given the choice between a Sigma and Twinkie for self-defense, I will take the Twinkie. Perhaps the bad guy will be distracted by the golden sponge cake and creamy filling.
I would have used the Sigma as a paper weight, but I value the paper too much.
Anyone that tells you they have a functioning Sigma either works for S&W or has mistaken their Glock for a Sigma.
ront
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I owned a Sigma in 40S&W for a while. I never had a bit of trouble with it at all. I have heard a lot of talk about them though. I would look for a Steyr if you can. It will probably cost a bit less. I like the way it fits my hand just as well as the Sigma and it seems to be a great gun. I like mine. I have the S40.
Ron
Ron
Flashpoint
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If he is looking at it for the ergomomics then he might want to look at the Steyr. I can say they do have a better trigger then the Sigma. I have a friend who has a Sigma in .40. When he first go it he had a lot of FTE, but it was fixed with a new spring. They are not the best guns in the world, but there is nothing really wrong with them as far as I can tell.
Black Snowman
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But MJRW how do you REALLY feel? Let it out man. It's not safe to bottle up like that
Personally no experiance with Sigmas so I can't say one way or the other.
Personally no experiance with Sigmas so I can't say one way or the other.
rblack
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I have had 3 Sigmas, and still have one. They have worked just as well as my Glocks, and have been just as accurate when you get used to the trigger as with any gun. For the price I think they are a deal.........
dsgrntldPW
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I had an early Sigma and let it get away, to my regret. Great ergonomics (much better than my Glocks), reliable, handled well and good accuracy out to about 15 yards. Good price. But I succumbed to all the trash talk and just knew that any day my Sigma would turn into a pile of goo before my very eyes. Sold it and put the money towards another Glock, which I was never happy with. I may yet get another one in 9mm, as at the last show I saw new factory 17 rd. mags going for around $60. As stated earlier it would be a fine car or house gun. And shops around here seem to still have Sigmas reasonably priced.
I had a Sigma .40. It had the stainless slide and the black lower, I loved the look of the pistol, but couldn't shoot it worth a hoot due to the trigger.
I bought the Sigma really cheap, but eventually traded it off to buy a Springfield XD. I like the XD a lot more than the Sigma, and the XD is easier to shoot. Scott
I bought the Sigma really cheap, but eventually traded it off to buy a Springfield XD. I like the XD a lot more than the Sigma, and the XD is easier to shoot. Scott
SouthpawShootr
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I have a Sigma in .357 Sig. As I understand it, not many of these were made. I've fired it, but it's pretty much a safe queen for the timebeing. No reflection on the gun, I'm just not that much in love with the cartridge. I did have some problem with the magazine release early on. I sent it back to S&W and never had a problem after that. They fixed the mag catch and sent the gun back within 10 days. So yes, I would buy one (if I needed one) and, after extensive firing without any problem, I would trust my life with it. I won't buy anymore Sigmas because I have an abundance of Glocks in just about every caliber offered and I'm not in polymer mode anymore.
BowStreetRunner
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ive shot two and they are ok
if it was my money i would try out a steyr...they look so cool and are in the same price range
thats my .02
BSR
if it was my money i would try out a steyr...they look so cool and are in the same price range
thats my .02
BSR
railroader
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Look for an XD9. Good ergnomics, good trigger and cheap 15 round mags(XD40 mags). I have only shot one sigma for comparison and the XD trigger is way better. Mark
denfoote
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From what I've been able to read, Sigmas are hit and miss. If you get a good one, great. If you get a bad one, then you are screwed!! Ofttimes the bad ones cannot be fixed!! I, for one, am not willing to plop down my hard earned money on a bet with those odds!! I don't go to Vegas either!!!
I, for one, am not willing to plop down my hard earned money on a bet with those odds!! I don't go to Vegas either!!! ALL guns are hit and miss. Some miss more and some hit more. There isn't one model out there that has never had some defective ones. The good news is that the company usually rectifies the situation. In the case of Smith and Wesson they will rectify it VERY quickly. I had a problem with my Sigma .40 when I initially bought it several years back. I sent it in and had it back all within a week and it has functioned flawlessly since. It could use a good trigger job though!
brad cook
Okiecruffler
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The only Sigma I've ever owned was the little .380. Possibly the mushiest trigger I've ever had the displeasure of pulling. Wouldn't feed anything but hardball, and sometimes not even that. Was so bad I decided to carry a Grendel instead.
Those of you who have had a good experience with them, more power to you, but I wouldn't take one on a bet.
Those of you who have had a good experience with them, more power to you, but I wouldn't take one on a bet.CZ52GUY
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...at a similar price point in 9x19
Ruger P95 or P89
CZ-75B or 85B
Springfield XD
or
2 Makarovs in 9x18
CZ52'
Ruger P95 or P89
CZ-75B or 85B
Springfield XD
or
2 Makarovs in 9x18
CZ52'
I shot a .40 Sigma that some guy at the range let me use after I let him shoot my Kahr MK40. It wasn't bad at all. I have heard nothing but bad things about them on this board but my limited experience with one was surprising. I don't really like Tupperware guns so I won't get one but I'm not sure they are all as rotten as most say.
denfoote
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Brad,
Never had a Glock fail right out of the box like I have heard Sigmas do!!!!!
Never had a Ruger screw up either.
Funny, my new Springfield 1911-A1 sent rounds down range right out of the box!!
Point is. I have never read the kind of horror stories about any other gun, things like jamming with a live round in the chamber!!!! You know, every day gun problems!!
There are also the cases I have read where the problem could not be fixed by S&W!! Not me!! I'll pass!!
ront
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Isin't Brad saying that there are lemons from time to time with all guns. I would also bet if S&W can't fix it, they would replace it. Again, I had a Sigma and it worked perfectly.
Ron
Ron
fmjcafe
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I`ve got a little SW380 and am happy with it. Mushy trigger? Ok, I`ll give you that but it ate everything I ever put in it and for what it is, accuracy is acceptable. Pocket pistol, tackle box gun, works for me.
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