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A beginner should start with a single stage press until he fully understands the process. IMO.
 
I will also add IMO to start with one caliber and get that procedure down. Then move to your next desired caliber to reload. It's too much to try to learn the art/science of reloading on many calibers at once. Again IMO.
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Reloading is not a "learn once" and repeat. You will find that there will be issues for you to use your problem solving skills. I have been reloading for a few years and thought I had it down. Bought a new 9mm that has a "very tight" match barrel. Found that about 5% of my reloads (initially shot from Glocks) were not sized to the point of passing the "plunk test" and would jam in the new gun. I was already had the sizing die set to touch the base plate, so found a .001 inch undersized die that works great.
 
when I was in your shoes I wanted to load 9mm, 223, 44mag, 45-70, and 38spl. I've been at this a few years now with the great help from the guys on here and as said above start with one caliber for now and once your very comfortable with it then switch. I started with 223 and got bored with it so got all the stuff for 44mag then all the stuff for 9mm. it got very overwhelming trying to juggle all these at once. I'm glad I didn't buy 45-70 and 38 supplies yet cause I haven't loaded 9mm in about a year. 223 is what I shoot most so it gets done first, 44mag is my hunting stuff and it was pretty dumb to buy a bunch of stuff for it to shoot 10rds a year to sight in and deer hunt.

I started with a single stage press and junk equipment and hated it and wish I spent my money a little wiser starting out. being in your situation not too long ago this is what I would have done different.

1) Buy the dies your going to use more, brass, powder, primers and once you are confident in your reloading abilities and have mastered say 223 then purchase dies for the next caliber and all the components and focus primarily on them until comfortable and move onto the next. I tried doing them all at once and it was a little nerve racking.

2) Manuals-buy several of them and if your like me and use Hornady bullets exclusively buy their manual cause I got Lyman manuals and they are more geared to lead and other bullets. Read them about 5 times too. make sure your writing everything down also to keep track of what load works and what doesn't. this will help a lot in the long run.

3) Tools-Don't buy the cheapo Lee de-bur and chamfer stuff its junk and sucks to use. I use this and its cheap to start and works well. It comes with every case prep tool you will ever need and saves the hands from hurting. Also, buy a case checker for the caliber you choose to make sure your sizing them right and its also faster to see if they need trimmed then checking with caliper. buy a decent set of digital calipers too. You can also purchase a lee cutting tool for the case prep centers and thread it onto this tool I linked and it works very well to trim rifle cases. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Lyman-Case-Care-Kit/1317242.uts?searchPath=/browse.cmd?categoryId=734095080&CQ_search=lyman+case+prep.

4) Press/accessories/scale-I started with a hand me down lee single stage and I hated it so I saved up and got a classic turret, safety prime, lee perfect powder measure for rifle and buy a good scale right off the rip to save you headaches. I use a digital Lyman accu touch and its dead on with check weight every time I use it and its very simple to use and priced right. I like the safety prime because its one less hand held step and I can primer while sizing.

5) Dies-Buy what you can afford. I use rcbs for rifle and lee for everything else and have no issues at all with either companies.

6) Powder/primer/cases-Don't do what I did and want to try every powder available because now I have a couple pounds of powder my rifle doesn't like. If you find one I would run with it to save some sanity and $. In 223rem I prefer benchmark. Its a little expensive but I'm all about maximum accuracy so its worth it to me. If your running an AR, H335 is a good priced right powder. I like CCI primers for rifle and use Sellior and Bellot primers for pistol because they are cheap. Brassbombers.com has very good prices on fully processed 223.5.56 brass. Just size and trim and throw in a case checker and your good to go. if you have some you saved up your GTG just make sure the 5.56 cases don't have crimped primers as its a pain to deal with and you wont be able to prime unless swaging or cutting the crimp out. I like Brassbombers for this as its done for me. Pistol brass I pickup at ranges just make sure its not steel or aluminum or has a step inside them.

7) Pistol stuff-I use a lee auto drum powder measure on my classic turret and a lee factory crimp die and run the turret and crank out 9mm. For this I use hp-38, plated bullets and S&B primers. This is where the safety prime really shines to speed it up and one less step away from the press. Pickup old ammo boxes from the range to store rounds. you can use your barrel as a case gauge to save a little $.

8) Misc-I am OCD like no tomorrow when it comes to this stuff and cant stand the thought of running a dirty case into my dies, rifle, etc so a harbor freight tumbler would work but not needed. I use it more to get case lube off the cases. Oh and get some imperial sizing wax for the rifle rounds. and also some sort of bullet puller. I like the rcbs collet puller. If you ever have a second thought pull that bullet and start over! A loading block also helps a lot too.

If you ever have doubts stop and get on here and ask 1000 questions like I did before you go back at it. this hobby can get a little frustrating at times so keep with it. Also I know I recommended a lot of stuff above but that doesn't mean you should run out and buy that stuff. A single stage will work well, Lee and any other kits will work well. I feel the turret helps with not having to change dies and speeds up pistol when that time comes. I use it as a single stage more than anything and just turn the head by hand when ready. I was just stating what works for me and what was recommended to me. I purchased a lot of cheaper junk and hated it all so I started looking at better stuff to replace the junk.


Thanks for your advice and all the others, I will thank on a separate post. I work with a MSG in my unit and he reloads, mostly the odd calibers he shoots. His advise is along with most of the others, read read read read and read up some more. Start with one or two calibers first, 9mm is pretty cheap, I live in a state where you can have it shipped directly to the house; Ammo Seek has always been good to me for finding the best price, so leave that for last if at all. So gonna start with my 6.5x55 swed, I really like how it shoots, low recoil, accurate as anything for being 112 years old, but I dont shoot it that much, so it will always be low numbers.
 
I would like to thank everyone for providing me some good advice, I was surprised to see how many posts were on here after one day! I read everyone of them and the common thread is read, read, read first. As I replied to one person, going to start with only one or two calibers first. I have been doing alot of research, online, asking one person I work with and the guy that runs a local gun shop that I have made a good relationship with. As I have noticed, the price can really be a wash, not really saving, but not really spending more per round. Its a time thing, the initial cost is high for all that I would need, but later on it can pay for its self later on down the line.
As I replied to ohihunter2014, going to start with the low count rounds, mostly so I dont get or feel overwhelmed by a big pile of brass waiting for me. I have seen alot of IMO on brands of presses, same thing with on say youtube, so I am leaning more towards the in-between a single stage and progressive press. One big piece of advice is to take the advance rod out and just do one step at a time for the small batches, de-capp-size, prep, prime etc. Also so I can have dies preloaded on separate turrets, so as I get better, or more proficient, just switch out, make adjustments and go on. So with that said, please keep adding advise, it is appreciated and I will be asking questions as time goes on.
 
If you are looking for something in between a single stage and progressive press I highly recommend a Lee CLASSIC Turret press. (not the Deluxe) You can load both handgun and rifle ammo with it and remove the auto index rod to use it as a single stage press. I load 30-06 and 45-70 ammo on mine with ease. When you get comfortable with loading you will probably be able to safety load 180 to 200 handgun rounds an hour.

There are kits available that will save you money, here is one if them.
https://kempfgunshop.com/Kempf_Kit_w/_Lee_Classic_Turret_Press_-90064Kit-6575.html
You will do well to use the upgrade they offer for the powder measure.

The tumbler they offer is made by Berry's and is their 400 model. It's a very good tumbler for a fair price. It's the same as the one sold by Cabela's, Brownells, Sinclair and a few others. All are the Berry's 400 tumbler.
https://kempfgunshop.com/Brass_Cleaning_Polishing-1284/
 

It's great that you like it.
And I'm not saying someone shouldn't get a progressive. I'm saying that your advice was a bit biased and didn't give the OP a chance to look at options that may or may not be better.

As stated, I considered a progressive to begin and knowing myself it would have been an ok option. But I"m glad I went the way I did. At some point I'll probably add a progressive, and your post gives me an option besides the Dillions. That said, the only "NEED" for a new reloader is to be safe, to take their time and to learn what they're doing before they focus on speed. If it means doing it on a single stage, a turret, or a progressive it doesn't matter. What matters is they're safe. Anything after that is gravy.
 
I notice there are alot of people that say they switched from a single stage to the Lee turret, but never see anyone say the sold there turret to get a single stage. Seams to be a small cult following of the Lee Classic Turret on here. And to think I thought I stumbled on a little known hidden gem when I switched to one from a rock chucker.
 
One big piece of advice is to take the advance rod out and just do one step at a time for the small batches, de-capp-size, prep, prime etc. Also so I can have dies preloaded on separate turrets, so as I get better, or more proficient, just switch out, make adjustments and go on. So with that said, please keep adding advise, it is appreciated and I will be asking questions as time goes on.

It's nice to be able to do this. I load 9mm and 223 and it's exactly what I do. I'm going to add 45 soon so all I need are a set of dies, and another turret. I'm also going to get a powder dispenser for each turret setup so all I have to do is swap out the turret and away I go.

I notice there are alot of people that say they switched from a single stage to the Lee turret, but never see anyone say the sold there turret to get a single stage. Seams to be a small cult following of the Lee Classic Turret on here. And to think I thought I stumbled on a little known hidden gem when I switched to one from a rock chucker.

I've been actually thinking of ADDING a single stage press for odds and ends. I love the Lee Classic Turret and yea it's a "hidden gem". I actually got mine because of all of the raves, and it seems to be one of the best bangs for the buck.

I've been holding off on a single stage because I don't want to spend almost as much (or more) than I did for the Turret. So I've been watching for used ones to pop up. Unfortunately I haven't seen any lately.
 
midwayusa.com has a lot of lee stuff on sale right now as well as hornady stuff and a lot of bullet deals. 45-70 ad 38 dies here i come! :)

OP-sign up for a midway account and spend $100 and save $10 its linked at the top of their home page.
 
Taking the advance rod out and running a progressive manually can cause a double charge if you get distracted. An automatic index device may prevent this. A powder cop or Lock out die is highly recommended. Which is why a 5 station press is my preference.
 
I'm also going to get a powder dispenser for each turret setup so all I have to do is swap out the turret and away I go.

I did not even think of that. I am just about to get my second set of dies. Let's see how the powder dispensing swap goes. Should not be a big deal, but I don't think they are expensive and it would eliminate a set up step. Good thought Hokie_PhD.
 
I've been actually thinking of ADDING a single stage press for odds and ends. I love the Lee Classic Turret and yea it's a "hidden gem". I actually got mine because of all of the raves, and it seems to be one of the best bangs for the buck.

I've been holding off on a single stage because I don't want to spend almost as much (or more) than I did for the Turret. So I've been watching for used ones to pop up. Unfortunately I haven't seen any lately.

I do miss my rock chucker from time to time when I have to do something where I am only using one die at a time like seating bullets on presized brass. I don't have room on the bench for two though unfortunately
 
I did not even think of that. I am just about to get my second set of dies. Let's see how the powder dispensing swap goes. Should not be a big deal, but I don't think they are expensive and it would eliminate a set up step. Good thought Hokie_PhD.
They're not expensive. And having them setup and not have to adjust them seems like it's worth the expense. Just check them and all should be good.
 
I do miss my rock chucker from time to time when I have to do something where I am only using one die at a time like seating bullets on presized brass. I don't have room on the bench for two though unfortunately
I have my press bolted to a block of wood that I clamp down so I can use the bench for other things.
I can also clamp it to my workmates if need be.
I've also seen people use threaded inserts in the bench with screw knobs to switch presses
And I think it's Lee that makes a mount that allows you to switch presses. So it just depends on what you need and are willing to do
 
I did not even think of that. I am just about to get my second set of dies. Let's see how the powder dispensing swap goes. Should not be a big deal, but I don't think they are expensive and it would eliminate a set up step. Good thought Hokie_PhD.

You can also buy extra drums so you just swap the drums out to go from one load to the next. I just write on a piece of masking tape what powder and weight it is set for and stick it to the adjustment knob.

http://leeprecision.com/quick-change-drum-set.html

Those things are a bit fiddly to take on an off the dies so having one for each caliber is not a bad idea at all if you switch alot!
 
I did not even think of that. I am just about to get my second set of dies. Let's see how the powder dispensing swap goes. Should not be a big deal, but I don't think they are expensive and it would eliminate a set up step. Good thought Hokie_PhD.
Actually, I think I am going to a stand alone powder measure, that way I dont have to have it right there. As long as I use 2 trays and go right from loading the powder to seating no chance of double loading the shells, in theory.
 
That is a popular way, use a couple of load blocks, and throw powder in 50/100 at a time, then eyeball all of them real good. Then load them.
 
I know a lady who bought a Dillion 1050 as her first press. She is happy. For many its a buy once, cry once purchase.

As I was researching I read numerous posts on various forums to the effect of, "if I had it to do over again, I would have just started with a Dillon 650"

So that's what I did. No regrets
 
Just getting into reloading my own ammunition. Looking around there are so many choices, pertaining to products, single, turret, progressive etc. I planned on using my own brass, then it gets into tumblers, cleaning. Then theres powder, primers all gets very over whelming!
Right now I only plan to reload .223/5.56, 9mm,45ACP, maybe 300BLK, and 6.5x55swedish. Really depends on what I shoot the most and would be cost effective. Pertaining to my 1905 M38 Mauser, I really started looking into reloading for that one, and .223/5.56.

So just looking for guidance into getting started.
 
If saving any $$ is your reason for wanting to reload forget it. Not going to happen. Reloading is fun and in you will spend moreat the range shooting which translates into spending more total $$ than you would have if you were buying factory rounds.


1st thing is to decide what you want to do. It important to load 100 rounds in 15mn or to shoot a 10 round 1 inch raged whole at 200 yards.


Keep in mind most of the sales pinches are all about speed.


Example: if you are going for speed then load your powder by volume.


If one whole at 200 yards what you’re after then you will want to weight each load with a beam scale not an electronic scale.


Larry
Northern Minnesota
 
Actually, I think I am going to a stand alone powder measure, that way I dont have to have it right there. As long as I use 2 trays and go right from loading the powder to seating no chance of double loading the shells, in theory.
I use a Lee Pro Auto-Disk for loading handgun ammo and a stand alone Lyman #55 powder measure for loading rifle ammo.

Of course there is nothing wrong with using an off press powder measure for all your loading. In reality I could mount the Lyman #55 on my turret press too but I like the way I'm doing it now.
 
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