New toy, no idea what it is

[DeepSouth]

So my brother got a new toy, well kind of. It functions, as in the hammer will cock and when the trigger is pulled , the hammer will fall. The back plate is missing, and the overall condition is very poor. It’ll never be a shooter just something he wants to display and have a conversation piece.

However he nor I know anything about it. It’s not really in my wheelhouse. If anyone can make out anything form the pictures I’d be interested to know a potential model, age range, value (in current condition it can’t be much).

Anyway thanks in advance for any input.

ETA:
It doesn’t apear to have a place for a ramrod, which I find odd, but again, this isn’t really my area.
Also it looks like the front half of the stock has been, replaced or something. You can kind of see it in the pictures.
And there are no numbers or letters on it anywhere.

 

[goon]

Looks like it could be Ottoman / Turkish. They usually carried the ramrod on a lanyard around their necks, which is why there are no thimbles or slot for one on the gun.

 

[AlexanderA]

Looks like it could be Ottoman / Turkish. They usually carried the ramrod on a lanyard around their necks, which is why there are no thimbles or slot for one on the gun.

Exactly. (I have one very much like it.) These would date from the late 18th century up until, say, the 1830's. Maybe even later. Typically, the locks were imported from Western Europe and assembled into guns locally.

The ramrod question is interesting. It's true that the ramrods were carried separately. The reason is that the pistols, often in multiples, were carried thrust through a belt sash. Ramrods would have been caught in the sash. I have seen scabbards for yataghan-style short swords (which also would have been carried in the sash) that had a place for a pistol ramrod. As for the pistols themselves, many of them made an attempt at a dummy ramrod, carved out of the stock wood itself. Others had the front of the pistol covered by an elaborate silver sleeve. This seems to be the case regarding the OP's gun. (Mine is also missing its silver sleeve. The owner probably hocked it when he needed money.) Even if the gun has ramrod thimble(s), it won't have a ramrod channel behind them. The typical caliber was .62. Smoothbore, of course.

If you check Gun Broker, you'll see that these are getting pricey. (A few years ago, these were being overlooked by American collectors. That's apparently no longer true.) The value largely depends on the degree of ornamentation. I would say that the OP's gun is in the low to middle range regarding ornamentation. It could use a good cleaning / restoration.

 

[DeepSouth]

Ram rod around the neck, that’s different but I can see how it’d be faster. Thanks for the identification, I do wish I knew the history of this particular gun.

 

[AlexanderA]

This historical painting shows how these pistols were carried:



ETA: Here's a reenactor posing in a similar costume. This shows the details of the belt / sash better. You can see why a ramrod on the pistol would be a hindrance.

(It looks like that's a pistol ramrod hanging by a thong from the belt, on the user's right side. Hard to tell because it's hidden in the folds of the fustanella (kilt).)