New winter Rimfire project what do you guys think?

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So, its winter time. And I need a project to work on...I'm wanting to shoot a rimfire rifle at 200+ yards. I decided that I want to get a Bolt action rifle, I'm thinking a marlin XT-22 with a 22'' 1:16 twist barrel. Shooting the .22 LR. I'm thinking that I want to buy a good scope, as I could use it with other rifles down the road. But something with consistent turret clicks. I was looking at SWFA SS 10x scope for $299, but maybe I should just go with a leupold. I was also thinking I might have to get a 20moa scope base to be able to shoot out to 200+ yards.

If anyone has any experience shooting at this range with .22 rimfire I would appreciate any comments or suggestions.
 
I have limited experience with .22lr @ 200 yds.

Rifle was a Kimber 82g I threw a Bushnell on. No MOA added to base. Ton of fun for sure. No reason not to add some MOA if buying a base. Wind was being nice to us so windage was not needed.
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For a scope I would look at the Mueller line. I have Super Sniper 10X. I just would rather a variable, but @ 200 a 10X would be fine.

We shot at recovered skeet pieces we moved to the backstop, so range was 215ish This weekend we might get to go again & shoot paper. Probably shoot with irons also.
 
Thanks for the reply, and yes I am thinking this will be a TON of fun! Even if you buy the CCI brand of ammo it is still considerable cheaper then shooting centerfire...

The reason I'm thinking of just getting a nice scope is in case I ever do want to shoot centerfire at longer ranges, I will already have a nice scope
 
For what it's worth, I've got a few more brand new Swift Premier scopes for sale somewhat cheap. And maybe for your project a 3-9x40 just might work well for you....:D
 
I know your saying you might want to use the scope down the road but why not look at the Wally world specials? Check out the Centerline 4-16x40. Its got adjustable click turrents, green & red retical & its mil-dot. Glass OK. Yes, made in China but the recoil from a 22lr isn't going to affect it. I have one on my Savage 17hmr bolt & Savage 22 bolt. Consistent 200yrd shots. $70.
 
I've never sighted in a .22LR for 200 yards, but holdover from 50 yards seems about 3 feet or so.

Our range is so windy most of the time, it seems a waste to try any accurate .22 LR shooting at 200 yards. I haven't been able to group any .22LR sporters better than about 1 1/2" at 100 yards there, but admit I've never shot my benchrest rifles with match ammo at that distance or beyond. It might require a special scope base to allow some scopes to zero at 200.
 
I know it might not present the difficulty factor at long range you may be looking for, and it's caliber specific, but the BSA sweet .22 series is available in 2-7x, 3-9x or 6-18x with simple elevation graduated turrets for standard hi-velocity 32, 36 and 40 grain bullets to 175 yards. You'd have to do-it-yourself by click beyond that, but they're inexpensive and the 2-7 on my wife's Mossberg works as advertised.
 
THRD;
Many smallbore and smallbore bench rest competitors use the Weaver T series 24 x or 36 x AO scopes on their target rifles.
They are clear, very repeatable, have small increments of adjustment.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/11...djustable-objective-1-8-moa-dot-reticle-matte
and
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/12...djustable-objective-1-8-moa-dot-reticle-matte

They also come with fine wire crosshairs as well as the 1/8 moa dot.
You can shop around and find them on sale occasionally.
For the price, they are an outstanding target scope.
Next, be sure that you use standard velocity ammunition for your 200 yd shooting. The high velocity stuff goes trans-sonic at about 90 yds (+/-)
and becomes unstable.
Finally, you will learn to read the wind when you shoot a .22 rf at 200 yds

Roger
 
I plink at 230ish with my 10" barreled buckmark toped with a red dot. Making consistent hits on a bowling pin isnt all that hard. I think youd be ok with a lower power 3-9 or 4-12, I have a 3-9 simmons that i use on my 17hmr. I dont usually shot that at 200, there isnt much challenge there.
 
At our range there always is a supply of clay targets on the 200 meter backstop. I've never actually sighted in for it but once the elevation is found it's not too difficult to break them with a 22lr from a rest on a calm day. More misses then hits but that might change with a higher magnification scope and actually sighting the crosswire in for the range instead of just holding over. I might try using a scope with a mildot recticle, if the dots aren't too big, if the elevation adjustment runs out. I might have to give it try.
 
Might want to consider the 17HMR if your not completely stuck on 22lr. You'll get flatter shooting with this and, for me, most of the bolt action 17HMR i've shot will usually out shoot thier 22lr counterparts.

Still cheap to shoot (compared to centerfire) and my cheap Savage is like a laser beam. I love to shoot nilla wafers with it.
 
TheHighRoadDude;

Depends on how accurate you want to be at 200 yards. Any .22 will get the bullet out there, just how small do you want the impact footprint to be?

Just my opinion, but it's an experienced opinion. Rifles: CZ, Anschutz, Cooper. Listed in ascending order of price. Scopes: Weaver V16, Nikon, Leupold. I prefer mil-dots for the long range stuff, particularly varmint shooting where there's no time to adjust turrets.

I'd suggest going over to rimfire central & checking out the CZ forum. Lot's of good info to be gained there from very friendly people.

900F
 
I have done more shooting past 100 yards than I have under 100.

My setup:

Rifle- CZ 455 American.... I made and installed pillars and lightened the trigger to 8 oz.

Scope- Hawke Tactical 8.5-25x42 Half Mildot higher magnification really helps

Rings- Hawke fully adjustable I set the rings to 26 MOA so I could dial to 300 yards

Ammo- CCI Standard Velocity

I have gone through 3 scopes on this rifle. I had a CenterPoint and a tasco and a beeman. All 3 lasted a little while and then went bad. Get a good scope the first time and you will save yourself some money. If you are serious about long range shooting, get the good stuff. Bad equipment will only make you upset later. The wind is not as much of a problem as people say. The only way you will learn about long range shooting is if you do it yourself.

The trigger can make or break your groups. When the trigger breaks, your hand jerks because the weight of the trigger was just released. The heavier the trigger, the more your hand moves.....not good for accuracy. To see what I mean, hang a 2-3 lb weight from a finger tip. Now have someone cut the string and watch your finger/hand move.

From a 50 yard zero, the drop for me is as follows.

100 yards- about 7 inches...not a whole lot of drop yet
200 yards- about 5 feet...getting there, just hold on
300 yards- about 15 feet...you heard me correctly, 15 FEET

I am not going to give exact numbers because people ALWAYS call BS. I will, however tell you what I like to do.... I like to shoot small pebbles, pine cones, dirt clods and even uproot weeds at 200-300 yards. Surprised? Don't be. The 22lr is capable of MUCH more than it is given credit for. Find a place to shoot where you will not be under pressure and HAVE FUN! Just be safe.
Don't let anyone tell you it is impossible.

The most dangerous person in the world is a 10 year old kid with a 22, because he doesn't know what it can't do.

Ike
 
I’ve shot quite a bit at 100, 200, and 300 with a .22, but I use this:

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It’s a Ballard made Low-Wall in .22LR with MVA sights, and a 30” Douglass “air-gauged” barrel. I had it built to mimic my silhouette rifle in .40-70W. With Eley standard the come-up for my rifle from 100 to 200Y is about 17 points (MOA)= 34” and at 300 it’s about 23 Pts or MOA = 69” from my 200 yard setting.

A 9 or 3 O'Clock 10MPH crosswind at 300 is about 10-11 MOA.

Chuck
 
It is important to use subsonic or hyper velocity ammo for best results. High velocity drops through the sound barrier around 75 yards and can veer off course. I prefer subsonic as it is MUCH quieter, but Hyper has a much flatter trajectory....and costs more.
 
Chuck, that is a fine rifle! Very cool that you set up a trainer for its big brother.

Do you have a picture of the whole length, or the stock? What I can see looks like nice wood.
 
Chuck, that is a fine rifle! Very cool that you set up a trainer for its big brother.
Do you have a picture of the whole length, or the stock? What I can see looks like nice wood.
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Sorry for the delay, I had to take some new pics, luckily my wife just got a new camera for X-Mass. I’m still not the best photographer though:

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The wood is “Exhibition Grade” black walnut with hand checkering and hand rubbed finished, its big brother has the same in English Walnut, and I have a .45-90 with the Black Walnut.

Please excuse the messy reloading bench, I’m in the middle of a batch of 9mm.

Chuck
 
Originally posted by CB900F

TheHighRoadDude;

Depends on how accurate you want to be at 200 yards. Any .22 will get the bullet out there, just how small do you want the impact footprint to be?

Just my opinion, but it's an experienced opinion. Rifles: CZ, Anschutz, Cooper. Listed in ascending order of price. Scopes: Weaver V16, Nikon, Leupold. I prefer mil-dots for the long range stuff, particularly varmint shooting where there's no time to adjust turrets.

I'd suggest going over to rimfire central & checking out the CZ forum. Lot's of good info to be gained there from very friendly people.
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You beat me to it. I use my CZ 452 Lux that I added a Lyman receiver sight to. It is amazing how well an iron sighted .22LR will shoot out to 200 yards.

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