New York law enforcement should have same restrictions on magazine capacity

[Evergreen]

Did the handgun ban in New York City help prevent the wounding of all the innocent bystanders who were shot by the two NYPD officers? Basically, as with every other draconian country/state/city who has its own autonomous government and laws, they will always have the "Exception" clause. Just like in Nazi Germany, approved members of the Nazi party were allowed to own guns that German citizens were prohibited to own. Basically, Cuomo and his family are going to be protected by men armed with all types of guns you and your family will never have the luxury to be protected with.


BTW.. I am hoping gun and ammo companies will plan a boycott on selling firearms/ammo to New York state government and law enforcement as retribution for their unconstitutional gun laws. There are several threads on this subject on other forums.

 

[DammitBoy]

evidently, some pigs are more equal...

 

[nitesite]

Well, I for one feel duty bound to run toward the sound of gunfire and into the unknown. Most of those who have commented here have neither the obligation, the willingness or the mental preparedness to do what I and other brothers and sisters do.

So go ahead and smirk and say that cops shouldn't be differently armed than the general populace. I do agree that they are no better than any other citizen, of that you are correct.

But most of you would not enter a high risk environment that you didn't have to. That is not what makes cops better, but it's what makes them different.

 

[Evergreen]

Well, I for one feel duty bound to run toward the sound of gunfire and into the unknown. Most of those who have commented here have neither the obligation, the willingness or the mental preparedness to do what I and other brothers and sisters do.

So go ahead and smirk and say that cops shouldn't be differently armed than the general populace. I do agree that they are no better than any other citizen, of that you are correct.

But most of you would not enter a high risk environment that you didn't have to. That is not what makes cops better, but it's what makes them different.

Strange, many law-abiding and armed citizens have put their lives on the line to protect the lives of innocent people. Where were the police in the Clackamas Town Center in Oregon when a man with CHL pulled his weapon and helped stop the additional lives of innocent civilians from being murdered? Remember the average citizen has much more liability and doesn't have government paid attorneys and police unions to protect him. Our legal system also makes it much more challenging for a law abiding citizen to defend himself and others as well.

Your logic is more or less coinciding with Cuomo's that citizens with guns are not as worthy as law enforcement, for one reason or another.

How do you know many of us here wouldn't put our lives on the line to protect other people if we were forced into that situation? The average civilian doesn't put themselves in dangerous situations usually. However, there are places in New York City that probably put the average civilian in more danger on a day to day basis then a police officer who patrols a safe and rural county in New York state. Yet, the police officer is allowed a hi-cap magazine, but not the civilian who lives in danger every day in Harlem, Queens or Bronx. Does this make sense?

I respect the police and the dangers they go through, but I also respect the law abiding citizens who are well trained and also have put their lives on the line to protect other people.

Those unarmed teachers who ran into the gunfire to try to save their students were quite brave. As brave as many police officers and they weren't allowed to have a gun in the school (even if they wanted one), like a police officer.

 

[Inebriated]

Your wish is Cuomo's command.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ork&id=8958116

That. Is. Gold.
I mean that just makes my day.

BTW.. I am hoping gun and ammo companies will plan a boycott on selling firearms/ammo to New York state government and law enforcement as retribution for their unconstitutional gun laws. There are several threads on this subject on other forums.

Barrett did it to California, and I was surprised that no one else followed suit. Hoping they do now, though.

 

[radiotom]

Well, I for one feel duty bound to run toward the sound of gunfire and into the unknown. Most of those who have commented here have neither the obligation, the willingness or the mental preparedness to do what I and other brothers and sisters do.

So go ahead and smirk and say that cops shouldn't be differently armed than the general populace. I do agree that they are no better than any other citizen, of that you are correct.

But most of you would not enter a high risk environment that you didn't have to. That is not what makes cops better, but it's what makes them different.

That second sentence is disgusting. Get off your high horse you snobby elitist. There is nothing that separates you from anybody else on this board except your bad attitude.

 

[nitesite]

I will add to my earlier comments because I don't want to change the intent of this thread.

I in no way feel that police are entitled to more than does lawful citizens, because police are just lawful citizens themselves.

The horrible treatment recently of New York gun owners outrages me to the core. I feel empathy for the citizens who are so adversely affected and pray that the recent law will be defeated in the courts.

Some of the comments were giving me the impression that their authors think that police face no more danger or criminal elements than other law abiding citizens. I didn't really take offense to those statements but I (perhaps mistakenly) pointed out, albeit unconvincingly, that many times many (yet not all) in fact do.

It would make me immensely happy to see gun owners fight like hell and win back the rights that they have had stripped away in violation of the Constitution. I don't care if somebody has a basement full of guns and ammo and full capacity magazines. We are all on the same side, and I believe in that with all my heart.

I carry a sidearm that has seven-round magazines, and a pump shotgun that holds five in the tube. Now thats not what I want to be limited to if one day I change my mind. And I NEVER want to see another law abiding gun-owner not have a choice in what they own or carry. HELL if somebody feels a desire, or just on a whim wants to not only own but carry in public a 33-rd GLOCK mag in a G17 I say go for it.

My comments, I pray, will be taken in the context I intended and I hope this thread can get back to the topic and not about me.

Thread drift was never intended, nor was my wish to make a statement that might distract. I wake up and go to sleep thinking about the 2nd Amendment and how precious it is to me in my every day life. I hope New Yorkers and all Americans never feel the threat again that we feel in these past four weeks.

 

[Inebriated]

Some of the comments were giving me the impression that their authors think that police face no more danger or criminal elements than other law abiding citizens. I didn't really take offense to those statements but I (perhaps mistakenly) pointed out, albeit unconvincingly, that many times many (yet not all) in fact do.

It isn't that they face more or less danger, it's that they're citizens as well. Police having weapons exclusive from the rest of the citizens goes against every fiber of the 2nd Amendment. Of course police have a higher propensity for having to use a firearm, so when laws like this go through, and people see that police will be stuck with 7 rounds, while criminals still have more... Well, maybe some folks will open their eyes and realize that BS like this doesn't do anything but negatively affect the law-abiding person. Whether they're police, security, or just a citizen, it really makes no difference.