alsaqr
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Yep, Christie is on his way to becoming a "lesser of two anti-gun evils" presidential candidate.
NJ: Magazine Capacity Restriction Vetoed
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My guess is that he kind of knows he doesn't have a chance to win it, although he will run. I do see Christie getting some mid to high up cabinet post if a Republican President gets in. And he would be happy with it. Probably an ambassador to the country of Socialist Republic of New Jermany (since NJ isn't really a part of the U.S.).
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zxcvbob
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He wants to be Obama's VP pick in 2016 
CoalTrain49
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I don't live in NJ so I don't keep up with the politics there as some on here do.
What I have noticed is Christie is very good at making the right calls when he needs to. That's how politicians survive once in office. He is able to read the situation and do what's best for him, but again that's what all successful politicians do. He had a lot to lose and very little to gain by not vetoing that legislation. A good chess player is always thinking two moves ahead and that is exactly what he's doing and judging from some polls he's doing it pretty well.
What I have noticed is Christie is very good at making the right calls when he needs to. That's how politicians survive once in office. He is able to read the situation and do what's best for him, but again that's what all successful politicians do. He had a lot to lose and very little to gain by not vetoing that legislation. A good chess player is always thinking two moves ahead and that is exactly what he's doing and judging from some polls he's doing it pretty well.
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Red Wind
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^ I agree. Although Christie leaves much to be desired , think Hillary, Cuomo or Biden.
Suddenly, he looks very good!
Suddenly, he looks very good!
22-rimfire
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I think if politicians would simply apply some common sense when writing legislation or voting on it, things would be a lot better. If gun control/crime control has not worked with the 15 round magazine limit, why on earth would making it 10 rounds make any appreciable difference? Christie is not Como. Christie seems to favor gun control, but he also applies common sense when applying his veto. Yes, it could be to help further his national interests, but what he did was good for NJ.
tuna
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Grudgingly, I'll admit he went up a notch in my book.
He's now at negative 19.
Hope he falls in a well and the crane gets a flat tire before it gets to him.
He's now at negative 19.
Hope he falls in a well and the crane gets a flat tire before it gets to him.
Tommygunn
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~~I sure hope he doesn't plug up the well ... ... ...
au_prospector
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"Hey Woody, someone's poisoned the waterhole!"
Deltaboy1984
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Even a blind squirrel finds an ancorn now and then.
Gottahaveone
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Agreed...although in this particular case, it's the other end of the horse that we're talking about.....
P5 Guy
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I'm shocked and amazed. Still won't vote for you though Chris Christie.
zxcvbob
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All the more reason not to overanalyze it.
larryh1108
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Look at it this way, 2016 elections, Christie or Hillary?
Think it's not possible?
Think it's not possible?
jerkface11
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And if it happens people will stay home in droves again.
If it were Christie or Hillary, I'm voting Hillary.
Time to teach the RINOs a lesson.
Besides, with Christie, all 2A freedoms will be lost...with the Hildebeeste, the Repubs will unite and at least pretend to be pro 2A.
AKElroy
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This is one of many quotes ascribing a "political" motivation to this, as if that is evil on some level. I am not a Christie fan, but isn't a politician doing the will of the people part of what our representative republic is all about? He just supported what he believes to be the will of his electorate. That's evil how, exactly? Will not that same pressure be there when he seeks re-election?
I call it a proper response to an informed, active electorate. He did his job, he listened. Good for him. He is still last on my primary list, but miles ahead of any (D) emerging from the other side of the isle.
Post CO Recalls, RKBA is the new "third rail" for politicians to avoid screwing with at all costs. Our activism is working, my friends. We should be emboldened.
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AKElroy
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Our next POTUS likely gets 3 nominations to the high court, with Ginsburg the only liberal of the three. This is a good time to remind ourselves that Heller, McDonald were both 5/4. Scalia is 78, Kennedy 77, Ginsburg 81.
This one matters. Between these two, just who do you believe will be more likely to support constructionists appointments?
When you add the abuse of the executive that this current POTUS has now set as precedent, "lesser of two evils" matters more than ever.
I will vigorously support candidates that share my views on the constitution, and those candidates are not Christ Christie. In the event, however, that I must make the choice you describe in the general? Then you bet your backside I will vote to defeat the continuation of the madness we now have, however tepid that opposition may prove to be.
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SC Shooter
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If Gov. Christy did vetoes this for political reasons, it does tell you he can read the tea leaves and is more of a pragmatist than ideolog. I can live with that.
22-rimfire
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Christie has always been a pragmatist. That's how he gets things done in NJ.
geekWithA.45
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OK, fine. Christie vetoed another round of mag restrictions.
Don't forget the bills he DID sign off on.
It frankly matters little: NJ is so broken that making the rubble bounce doesn't change the picture much. The 10% of NJ residents that happen to also own guns are abusable-at-will by the 90% who think they're justified in doing so.
Don't forget the bills he DID sign off on.
It frankly matters little: NJ is so broken that making the rubble bounce doesn't change the picture much. The 10% of NJ residents that happen to also own guns are abusable-at-will by the 90% who think they're justified in doing so.
Like I tell my 5 year old:
When someone gives you something (valuable to you), you take it graciously and do not complain. With her, I often say it in the context of dessert... she's complaining about not getting the dessert she wanted instead of graciously accepting the perfectly fine and delicious dessert she has in front of her. The same general principle could apply to many in this thread. Accept your victories graciously. Send a thank you to the governor.
When someone gives you something (valuable to you), you take it graciously and do not complain. With her, I often say it in the context of dessert... she's complaining about not getting the dessert she wanted instead of graciously accepting the perfectly fine and delicious dessert she has in front of her. The same general principle could apply to many in this thread. Accept your victories graciously. Send a thank you to the governor.
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I really have no problem if the reasoning behind his veto was political positioning and not necessarily his own desire. He's an elected official, that's his JOB. He represents the public. That means he does what the public wants.
I don't care if it's not what he personally wanted. If he felt that the public wanted a veto and that would get him more votes then that is what he must do. That's how "elected" works.
I don't want a politician who serves his interests and principles. I want one who serves the public, regardless of how he feels on the matter.
In short. Good work Christie.
I don't care if it's not what he personally wanted. If he felt that the public wanted a veto and that would get him more votes then that is what he must do. That's how "elected" works.
I don't want a politician who serves his interests and principles. I want one who serves the public, regardless of how he feels on the matter.
In short. Good work Christie.
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