NJ: Magazine Capacity Restriction Vetoed

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New Jersey: Magazine Capacity Restriction Vetoed

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"Governor Christie Nixes Gun and Magazine Ban Legislation

Today, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (R) vetoed A.2006/S.993, sponsored by Assembly Majority Leader Louis Greenwald (D-6) and Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg (D-37). This legislation sought to arbitrarily lower New Jersey’s magazine restriction from fifteen rounds to ten. New Jersey is one of only a handful of states that already has a restriction on the number of rounds permitted. Of course, criminals ignore the law, making such measures completely ineffective at addressing public safety and violent crime. Cities like Camden, Jersey City, Patterson, Newark and Trenton continue to experience high crime rates despite New Jersey having some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation. The state has had a fifteen-round magazine limit for about two decades and it has had zero impact on crime during that time. Yet, New Jersey’s anti-gun legislators were poised to enact more of the same failed policies and continue their attack on law-abiding gun owners in the Garden State.

The NRA actively worked against these bills during this legislative session and testified in opposition to these anti-gun bills in both Senate and Assembly committee hearings at the Statehouse. We thank the hundreds of New Jersey NRA members who also traveled to Trenton to testify against these bills. Also, thank you to those NRA members who were unable to attend committee hearings and instead made phone calls to legislators and the Governor. Our unified effort made the difference!

Using the contact information provided below, please call and e-mail Governor Chris Christie to thank him for vetoing this anti-gun legislation and defending the Second Amendment.



Governor Chris Christie:
(609) 292-6000
E-mail http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/

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[AlexanderA]

It's all about Christie positioning himself to run for president. It's in vain, though, because pro-gun people still won't vote for him (in the primaries at least).

 

[chris in va]

I don't know il that he's positioning. One of the first things he did in office was to commute Bill Aitkin's sentence.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth

 

[jakk280rem]

I could convince myself that this was a win if he had vetoed it due to conscientious reasons and not a purely political maneuver designed to appeal to his party's base electorate in order to make himself more appealing for an eventual national office run.

 

[Bob2222]

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...l_to_reduce_size_of_ammunition_magazines.html

Christie conditionally vetoed the legislation (A2006), but he did more than propose changes. He completely rewrote it, eliminating the ammunition capacity reduction and suggesting in its place several changes to the state’s mental health system that he first proposed more than a year ago.

I think he did this very well. The problem isn't guns -- the problem is crazy people and criminals.

Focusing on the guns allows politicians to pretend to their voters that they are doing something about problems that they are unable and unwilling to deal with.

I don't think Christie is a gun guy -- which is not unusual in New Jersey. If Christie is willing to listen and learn something, that puts him head-and-shoulders above any New Jersey governor elected in the last 70 years. So thumbs-up to the governor, I am grateful for any small victory.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Color me surprised. I agree. He is positioning himself for a presidential bid.

 

[glennv]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth

Correct. You could all be shopping for 10 round mags right now.

 

[HexHead]

I don't know il that he's positioning. One of the first things he did in office was to commute Bill Aitkin's sentence.

If Aitkins is the guy I'm thinking of, that was moving and had some guns in the trunk of his car, Christie didn't do nearly enough. While commuting his sentence was a good start as the guy didn't deserve to be in prison, Christie should have pardoned him. He's still considered a convicted felon and can never own a gun again.

Christie is a former prosecutor and as anti-gun as they come. Don't let this veto fool you, it was a calculated political decision, or he wouldn't have waited until the last minute to do so.
The one question that should be asked of anyone running for office is "Which existing gun control law do you intend to repeal first", to see where they stand.

 

[Tophernj]

I find it frustrating that the NRA is actually looking to take credit for this. The have done nothing for the state of NJ for quite a while.

And I agree... as someone that lives in NJ, I will take whatever "victories" come my way. Political strategy or conscientious philosophizing is of no matter to me. I don't have to worry about magazine bans for another year. That works.

C

 

[PonyKiller]

He said a while back when this suite of bills was starting that the states gun legislation was tough enough, good to see he remembers, with any luck the veto will hold, the dems Far outnumber the republicans in this state

 

[Joeyp]

Veto

I am originally from Oregon and now live in NJ. I agree with those who say don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Before I moved to NJ I found out about the magazine capacity limit and set forth on selling my 16 round magazines and replacing them with 10 or 15 round magazines. I own 2 CZ 75B's and I can tell you it was not easy or cheap to replace the 16 round magazines with 15 round magazines.

I am not in agreement with 100% of Gov. Christies agenda in the state and would like to see many of our gun laws repealed or relaxed. Living in this state you realize that is not a reality.

In this case Gov. Christie used common sense and vetoed legislation that would do nothing to protect the citizens of NJ. I contacted him online asking that he veto the legislation, and contacted him again this morning to thank him for vetoing the legislation.

 

[Tom488]

Christie is a former prosecutor and as anti-gun as they come.

Really? As anti as they come? As anti as, say, Gov. Cuomo? The guy who rammed the SAFE Act through his state in the middle of the night, with no discussion? As anti as Gov. Malloy, who spearheaded the state's tougher AWB and registration laws after Sandy Hook? As anti as Gov. Hickenlooper, who DID enact a magazine ban?

There's three examples of politicians who are more anti-gun than Christie. In fact, I'd challenge you to name ONE anti-gun maneuver he has done since becoming governor.

I'm not claiming the guy is a champion of freedom. No, I'm not delusional. However, in the face of an overwhelming desire by our legislature to strip NJ citizens of even the most basic forms of self-defense (remember the Assemblywoman, who wanted a gun bil that would "confiscate, confiscate, confiscate"?), he's held the line - twice now - by vetoing anti-gun legislation.

 

[Red Wind]

^ As usual, Tom488 is on the money. Excellent post.

 

[herrwalther]

A glimmer of hope in the pit that is New Jersey.

I think it is a Christie political move. On paper he is a Republican but has the most Democrat views of firearms I have ever seen. I know we try to avoid specific politics here on THR but it is hard to ignore how both parties generally feel about the 2A. It might be a move towards the White House at the most or at the very least it is a move to put him in good graces for Governor again.

 

[vamo]

I could convince myself that this was a win if he had vetoed it due to conscientious reasons and not a purely political maneuver designed to appeal to his party's base electorate in order to make himself more appealing for an eventual national office run.

If the requirement for a win be that a politician make a decision for conscientious reasons then I'm afraid that we will never truly win.

 

[Tom488]

or at the very least it is a move to put him in good graces for Governor again

He can't run for governor again. Any other theories? Why must there always be some ulterior motive, some deep-rooted conspiracy, some nefarious part of a diabolical plan for total world domination? Why can't he just have vetoed it, because it was knee-jerk, feel-good legislation that wouldn't have done a thing to address the REAL problem?

You know.... like he actually said?

 

[115grfmj]

Christie Vetoes 10rd mag limit Bill.

Chris Christie vetoes
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...l_to_reduce_size_of_ammunition_magazines.html

 

[Schwing]

I don't care for him but he just went up in my book.

 

[akarguy]

he must be considering a bid in 2016

He would have never survived a primary had he signed that garbage

 

[Midwest]

NJ: Magazine Capacity Restriction Vetoed

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=755939

 

[LeonCarr]

When is he going to start moving to repeal the non common sense gun laws on the books that contribute to, not solve, the crime problem in NJ?

If he starts doing that, then he might make a decent POTUS. Until that time, he is a RINO and will not get my vote. Period.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[Weevil]

Posturing, political maneuvering or whatever.....I like the guy a lot more for vetoing this nonsense than I would if he'd signed it into law.

 

[gunsandreligion]

Positioning for a presidential run, and I'm sure he will win primary's, as the last two elections have gone, the media says no wrong about the candidate who has the most with which they can later alienate the conservative base, the candidate is presented as a moderate republican who will attract many middle of the road candidates, when the primary's are won, suddenly all sorts of mud is dug out of the past to alienate conservative voters, with lack of enthusiasm by the strong base, the candidate falls flat, will pick a much more conservative VP as a last resort, who will then be used to alienate any chance of more liberal voters, and ultimately will lose. Christie never will pass the finals, but has great chances in primary's. Im not saying its anybody's plan or conspiracy, but lack of anything to get exited about has lost us the last two elections. We cannot elect somebody on the basis they will appeal to the moderate left, the moderate left has a candidate already, try attracting those who will vote third party or not vote at all.

 

[barnbwt]

Posturing, political maneuvering or whatever.....I like the guy a lot more for vetoing this nonsense than I would if he'd signed it into law.

I'd like him more if he hadn't A) waited so long, and B) justified it on the basis of civic utility instead of the rule of law, and C) parried his critics onto an issue potentially as threatening to gun rights as magazine restrictions. Yes, if he'd vetoed it based on it not going far enough, I'd be less happy than I am, but more happy than if he'd signed it because he was forced to.

However, unlike NJ, the majority of the nation's RKBA voters are not relegated to a "take it where we can get it" mentality and will take little solace in assurances he is actually supportive of gun rights based on what we've seen yesterday and before. He is at best wary of gun rights, and would rather not touch the issue. While therefore not an active threat like the one we have now, neither will he get us where we need to be, which is a major reason we vote for certain candidates over others in the first place; so the unelected won't have to do all the heavy lifting.

TCB