News: High court to look at ban on handguns

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Not sure where a post like this belongs anymore so move it where it needs to be.

Time to get Writing & Calling Our Reps Again.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5287469.html

Nov. 9, 2007, 12:18AM
High court to look at ban on handguns

Justices to decide whether to take up case on strict limits approved in D.C.

By MICHAEL DOYLE
McClatchy-Tribune

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court will discuss gun control today in a private conference that soon could explode publicly.

Behind closed doors, the nine justices will consider taking a case that challenges the District of Columbia's stringent handgun ban. Their ultimate decision will shape how far other cities and states can go with their own gun restrictions.

"If the court decides to take this up, it's very likely it will end up being the most important Second Amendment case in history," said Dennis Henigan, the legal director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

Henigan predicted "it's more likely than not" that the necessary four justices will vote to consider the case. The court will announce its decision Tuesday, and oral arguments could be heard next year.

Lawyers are swarming.

Texas, Florida and 11 other states weighed in on behalf of gun owners who are challenging D.C.'s strict gun laws. New York and three other states want the gun restrictions upheld. Pediatricians filed a brief supporting the ban. A Northern California gun dealer, Russell Nordyke, filed a brief opposing it.

From a victim's view
Tom Palmer considers the case a matter of life and death.

Palmer turns 51 this month. He's an openly gay scholar in international relations at the Cato Institute, a libertarian research center, and holds a Ph.D. from Oxford University. He thinks that a handgun saved him years ago in San Jose, Calif., when a gang threatened him.

"A group of young men started yelling at us, 'we're going to kill you' (and) 'they'll never find your bodies,' " Palmer said in a March 2003 declaration. "Fortunately, I was able to pull my handgun out of my backpack, and our assailants backed off."

He and five other plaintiffs named in the original lawsuit challenged Washington's ban on possessing handguns. The District of Columbia permits possession of other firearms, if they're disassembled or stored with trigger locks.

Their broader challenge is to the fundamental meaning of the Second Amendment. Here, commas, clauses and history all matter.

The Second Amendment says, "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Gun-control advocates say this means that the government can limit firearms ownership as part of its power to regulate the militia. Gun ownership is cast as a collective right, with the government organizing armed citizens to protect homeland security.

"The Second Amendment permits reasonable regulation of firearms to protect public safety and does not guarantee individuals the absolute right to own the weapons of their choice," New York and the three other states declared in an amicus brief.

Gun-control critics contend that the well-regulated militia is beside the point, and say the Constitution protects an individual's right to possess guns.

Clashing decisions
Last March, a divided appellate court panel sided with the individual-rights interpretation and threw out the D.C. ban.

The ruling clashed with other appellate courts, creating the kind of appellate-circuit split that the Supreme Court likes to resolve. The ruling obviously stung D.C. officials, but it perplexed gun-control advocates.

If D.C. officials tried to salvage their gun-control law by appealing to the Supreme Court — as they then did — they could give the court's conservative majority a chance to undermine gun-control laws nationwide.
 
lol... youv got to be kidding me

I'm not sure what you mean, this has the potential to a big huge case if heard by the SCOTUS.

I don't know what calling our reps will do at this point, but this case isn't exactly something I'd be laughing out loud about.
 
At any rate, think 5 of the 9 realize that the militia are the every day citizens?
 
I predict a narrow ruling. IANAL. I also predict that this ruling, however narrow, will be in our favour. IANA pessimist.

In my dream world, the Supreme Court would strike down federal controls on arms as beyond their Constitutional authority and make it a State's right issue, and then limit the States from prohibiting open carry and 'arms of a militia purpose'.

Edit: P.S., this thread is preaching to the choir.
 
If they do decide to hear it, I hope it comes down to the fact that every other amendment in the BOR guarantees individual rights. No matter how many libs there are in teh SCOTUS, they can't ignore that huge fact. I've always believed that if the SCOTUS had to rule on RKBA that we'd win.
 
Why are we calling our reps?

If anything, an amicus curiae brief would be appropriate. But I don't think the Supreme Court would give any weight, nor would the justices actually see, any brief from a regular Joe. So we wait. If the case goes against us, we continue to fight at the legislature. Then you can call your reps!
 
A better question, is which organization would do we need to donate to in order to finance the best lawyers money can buy?
 
I'm sure any number of organizations will take your money, but I am certain that if this case is accepted by the Supreme Court, all the research is already done and the lawyers that brought it this far are going to argue before the Supreme Court themselves. This is on autopilot through the end of this particular case, only the decision is unknown.

If we prevail, I suppose more money will be needed in attacking unconstitutional laws. If we do not prevail, then we continue working our cause in the Congress and the state legislatures as usual.
 
weird. For some reason I was under the impression they had already been examining the issue and were going to announce their decision on the 9th.... not start looking at it on the 9th.
 
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