Next gun? Gimme some ideas...

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I currently have a new HK USP, SW99, Walther compact P99 A/S and a Glock 34.

I have money for 1 more handgun. I just am not sure what to get.

The SW99 is my fav, and I like the HK USP as my 2nd fav. I love the single action trigger on both guns. And, while the HK is a traditional DA/SA w/ an external hammer, it can be kept cocked and locked with the nice frame mounted safety. Plus, the SA pull breaks wonderfully on the USP I have.

I am looking for a handgun with a nice, light trigger. This would be a range gun, not a carry gun (I use my compact Walther as my carry gun).

I want something with a nice target trigger. If it is a DA/SA, I'd like a gun that could be cocked and locked like the USP. And, I want at least a 4" barrel.

I love my SW99 so much that I thought about trying to get a Walther P99 full size w/ A/S trigger. But, in all honesty, I would then have 2 guns that are exactly the same, except for the shape of the slide. The more I think about it, I want something different.

I want to stick w/ 9mm. I do not want a 1911 - my last few 1911s have been a headache. Also, I do not want another Glock.

At the next gunshow, I thought I might take a look at some CZs that have a frame mounted safety. Never held one before.

Any other ideas? Thought about trying a Sig (never held one before either), but I don't think they can do the cocked and locked routine...
 
I've thought about that - but I've read many posts over the years that stated the stock trigger isn't very good w/o some work,a nd also removing the mag safety. Any other ideas?
 
Dont worry about getting a Walther P99 AS anyway becuase they are no longer imported by SW and most people that bought them dont let them go. CZ makes a nice pistol but I would choose a Sig over a CZ anyday. The hi-power would be a good find as well but Id choose a Sig over that as well. As far as triggers being the way you want it stock. Good luck. Id choose the gun you like the best minus the trigger and then get some work done on it.
 
Something in the CZ75 family perhaps?

You could also get a 9mm Smith & Wesson revolver that uses moon clips. With the new polymer clips, rimming and de-rimming is very easy.

When cocked on single action, the SA trigger pull on a Smith & Wesson is darn near perfect.

It's not 9mm, but the SA pulls on my .357's, a 686, and 66, all break like the proverbial snapped "glass rod" with no takeup travel whatsoever. You can't blame any accuracy issues on the trigger pull with these.
 
Actually, with some digging, getting a Walther P99 A/S is still possible - NIB - they are still floating around. And, the Walther reps at the shot show claimed that they would be bringing them back afterall.

It's just that I prev had 2 of the same guns before - and there was always 1 I just never used as much...
 
I'm a big fan of Sig triggers personally, like shooting a stick of butter... if sticks of butter could shoot. I like Witness triggers too, although many may disagree with me on that one...

Then again, you could always round-out your semiauto collection with a wheel gun? I'm not a huge fan, but I needed one just to have one...

-Colin
 
I'd think about the wheel gun also. Look at your list. All autos. You're just getting more of what you've already got IMO

Might try a nice older S&W with the really nice trigger

Or a Ruger or Browning semi-auto 22
 
Shripwreck: Buy a Single Action! In fact, hunt down a Colt Single Action Army, 7.5bbl, 45LC, color-casehardened frame. It will rapidly become your favorite!
 
Change things up and try a revolver! Ruger GP-100 is a great basic revolver! (Yes, I am biased, I do own one!)
 
As for a rifle, me eyes aren't the greatest. I did rent a Storm carbine once and shot fairly decently with the stock sights at 45 feet (the farthest back the indoor range goes). But, I've never really been that interested in a rifle. I don't think I would use it much. I prev had a shotgun and never used it for years.

As for a wheel gun, I've never seen one that has a decent DA trigger - I've always had to cock the gun for every shot. There are no revolvers that cock themselves or have a 4-5lb DA trigger, is there?

The local shop has a sweet looking S&W 627 - a rather large performance center revolver for around $800. But, cocking the gun for every shot is a pain in the butt.
 
I think you should give careful consideration to a good revolver. The smoothest triggers I've ever fired have been on revolvers, such as the S&W 586, 66 or 29 . Of course, it would entail sending a stock gun to a competent action man for a little polishing, but well worth it. I believe every handgun enthusiast should have at least one slick wheelgun.
 
I think you need a small pistol that you can carry in your front pocket.
Perhaps a Kahr PM9, Keltec P3AT (oops not 9mm Para) or something like that.
 
>>>I think you need a small pistol that you can carry in your
>>> front pocket.Perhaps a Kahr PM9, Keltec P3AT (oops not
>>> 9mm Para) or something like that.


I thought about that - but my main carry gun is the compact Walther. I used to have a Taurus PT22, but I sold it to my mother a few months ago. I never really used it. At one time I wanted a Beretta Tomcat, but I doubt I'll bother.
 
A range gun ...

A soft trigger.
Comfortable to shoot... a lot of ammo.
High magazine capacity...

I'm thinking Beretta 92 family, or CZ75 family.

OR, take a chance on a far out thought...a Daewoo DP51. Built like a bank vault, and has that triple action trigger...cool!
 
I actually had a Beretta 92FS for about 8 years - I sold it about 3 weeks ago. I've rotated my entire gun collection last year to new stuff. I didn't really have anything before that just grabbed me. Now, though, while some people may not like it, the SW99 is my current fav.

I will probably end up going to the next large gunshow next month and will just try holding everything.

Not sure if I want an XD. The Sig 226 was rather fat for my hands. Maybe I'll try to hold a 229. It almost has a 4 inch barrel. The used 226 I handled today has a smooth trigger.
 
I'm going to throw in on the side of a good wheelgun. You're talking about a range gun and you said you want to stick with the 9mm... well, .38spl and .357magnum are more or less 9mm-size bullets, but you have more leeway as to which weights and shapes you can use as well as a wider range of velocity. Since you're talking about a range gun, an appetite for really hot loads isn't a prerequisite, unless that's your thing. I've read Sheriff Jim Wilson advising against using the hot loads for anything but hunting, law enforcement, and defensive work. S&W still makes the Model 10 .38spl with 4" bull barrel. I've always considered it a fine example of a sixgun. The Model 10 triggers I've experienced are great in that I can feel where the cylinder stops and locks up, then the last little bit of trigger squeeze before the shot breaks. According to my reading of Ed McGivern, this is good because it gives you the point to correct the sight alignment without having to repeat the entire length of trigger squeeze.

It is, in my opinion, also very nice to be able to shoot a .44magnum wheelgun, mid-sized or larger with .44special target loads. In fact, I have a pet load for this that hardly kicks, plus another load I like with a bit more punch if it's needed. Both loads are 200gr and 240gr cast lead. If you can find a Virginia Dragoon (Interarms) .44magnum, I recommend one as I've had a real nice experience with one... for me and what I do with a gun, the sights are good and it has a really nice (single-action only) trigger. I've experienced fine accuracy at 50yds on a good day with this gun and those loads. But you won't find this gun every day, so that makes having one somewhat unique. Or, there's Ruger's Blackhawk and SuperBlackhawk. I've also looked at a Redhawk and thought they were nice as a working gun... the trigger reminded me a whole lot of what I described above about the S&W Model 10.

Bart Skelton:
I think you should give careful consideration to a good revolver. The smoothest triggers I've ever fired have been on revolvers, such as the S&W 586, 66 or 29 . Of course, it would entail sending a stock gun to a competent action man for a little polishing, but well worth it. I believe every handgun enthusiast should have at least one slick wheelgun.

While I've never fired those models, I've looked at a few Model 29's in a store local to me and I always thought those triggers were really nice. It's been a few years, but as I recall, some of those were S&W Performance Center 629's although a couple were used 29's and may have had trigger jobs. I'm still keeping my eyes open for one though.

OSS:
Change things up and try a revolver! Ruger GP-100 is a great basic revolver! (Yes, I am biased, I do own one!)

I've had a good time with some Rugers too, but when I looked at GP-100 and SP-101, the triggers turned me off. Of course, that was before I heard much about installing Wolff spring kits. From what I hear, shoot a stock DA Ruger, then change out the springs, and it'll feel like a whole different gun.
 
I'd like to suggest that instead of spending that money on a new handgun, you consider spending it on a training course. A weekend course typically costs in the $300-$500 range, and I'm sure there are several schools and/or instructors in Texas who offer this training. Putting several hundred rounds downrange under the guidance of an experienced instructor will do far, far more for your shooting than will buying another gun - and it's training that may save your life one day.
 
I'd say get a rifle, but since you don't seem to be interested in long guns, maybe consider something for one of your handguns...like a suppressor.

Gem-tech's Trinity would probably be an excellent choice.
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I think you have enough handguns

You sir, speak the words of SATAN! :p

Since you have the polymer theme covered pretty well, I'm going to suggest some heavy metal. :uhoh: - not music ... I also echo the sentiments well articulated previously about getting a revolver or 3.

If you want a good revolver trigger, check out any S&W Performance Center offering. The trigger should be around 9 pounds DA, and nothing beats the precision of their single action triggers. No, you won't find a reliable 4-5 pound revolver trigger in double action, but the good revolvers out there are very shootable. I'd say a .357 magnum would be a good choice, giving you the flexibility of being able to run .38 spl through it for economy and magnums for fun :evil: Another option is to get an inexpensive used S&W and send it to the PC for an action job. I did this to my 625JM, and without question it has the best trigger of any gun I have, including my factory PC models ...

I say go for the big, heavy magnum revolver.
My few pieces of eight.
 
nope , not going to suggest anything.
If you get it and don't like it, it's gonna be all my fault.
then we won't talk anymore.
then your wife won't send me cookies.
then your kids will throw rocks at me.
then I'm going to get fired cause I'm grouchy all the time.
then you're going to make me buy the gun from you and I don't want it.

Nope:

Figure it out all by yourself just like the rest of us.

AFS
 
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