NH: Activist open carries into cop-shop

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My understanding with my local Police Chief is that he denys permits to those under 21 and I'm only 18. I haven't heard this directly from him, just a dispatcher, but I do have a friend that recently became a Police Officer in that department that I was going to have him ask for me and possibly provide a reference.

That is against the law.

There is no age requirement for the NH Pistol/Revolver license.

I haven't met anyone under 18 with a permit, but I'm told that a local 14 year old was granted one, but can only carry when with a parent/guardian, as it is against federal law for a minor to possess a pistol without an adult present. (Source not verified, so take it with a grain of salt)

If the Sheriff denies you, please contact your district court, they will force the issue and get you your permit.

On a side note, there's also no age limit for open carry. Technically, a 6 year old could open carry a loaded pistol as long as they were with a parent/guardian, for the same reason listed above.
 
For FIVETWOSEVEN:

These statutes can be found at RSA 159:6 et seq. and may be accessed at any legal library or at http://www.nh.gov
Salient points are provided below:
• License to carry is required to carry a loaded pistol or revolver in a motor vehicle or to carry a concealed, loaded pistol or revolver.
• NH residents obtain their license from the Selectmen of their town or the Mayor or Chief of Police of a city or some full-time police officer designated by them respectively, upon application.
• Non-residents must apply to the Director of State Police for their license.
• It must appear that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to their person or property or has any proper purpose and that the applicant is a suitable person to be licensed. Hunting, target shooting or self-defense shall be considered a proper purpose. The license is allowable for all proper purposes regardless of the one for which it was issued.
Applicants not prohibited under federal or NH law from possession of a firearm shall be deemed suitable persons and the license shall be issued unless the applicant is so prohibited from possessing a firearm. The burden is on the licensing entity to prove by clear and convincing proof that the applicant is so prohibited from possessing a firearm.
• The license is in duplicate, with one copy retained by the issuing entity, and bears the name, address, description and signature of the licensee. No photograph or fingerprint shall be required or used as a basis to grant, deny or renew a license unless requested by the applicant.
• Licenses expire at midnight on the anniversary of the holder’s date or birth no less than 4 years from the date of issue, with March 2 the expiration for persons born on February 29. Licenses may be suspended or revoked if the person is no longer deemed a suitable person or is prohibited from possessing a firearm by federal or NH law. The licensee may appeal a suspension or revocation within 7 days to the issuing authority.
Licenses must be issued or denied within 14 days of application, and if denied, the reason shall be stated in writing and delivered to the applicant within 14 days, with a copy kept by the denying authority. The applicant may appeal a denial within 30 days to the District Court in the jurisdiction in which the person resides, and the court shall hold a hearing within 14 days.
• License fees are $10 for residents, for the use of the local law enforcement department, and $100 for nonresidents, for the use of the State.
No forms other than the one prescribed and issued by the Director of State Police may be used for the application and issuance of licenses.
• If a resident license holder moves to another community, he or she shall notify in writing the licensing authority in his or her new place of residence that he or she has a current license, and the license shall remain in effect until it would otherwise expire.
Licensing entities who withhold a license in violation of the law are liable for reasonable attorney’s fees and costs incurred in any lawsuit to enforce the provisions of this chapter if the court finds the suit was necessary in order to force compliance and the law was knowingly violated.
• Full faith and credit is given to nonresidents with licenses from their home states only in cases where New Hampshire and that state have provided reciprocal privileges.
• Federal law allows current peace officers from any of the 50 states and peace officers who retired in good standing and are not otherwise barred by state or federal law to carry concealed handguns in New Hampshire provided they carry suitable credentials to prove their status with them whenever carrying concealed, and further provided that they have passed periodic firearms qualification courses acceptable by their states. Current or retired peace officers should carry their official identification at such times.
• No license is required for New Hampshire peace officers to carry a concealed and loaded weapon on or offduty. Officers should carry their official identification at such times.

So, if you are denied after application, you can take the department to court, and they will have to pay all fees incurred.

Link to official application:
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/documents/dssp85.pdf

Print it out, fill it out, bring it with $10 to your local station, and hand it in. If you don't have your license in 14 days or less, you can go to the station and politely demand it. If they refuse, then you have a case.

Under "For what reason(s) do you make application to carry a pistol in New Hampshire?" Write "All Lawful Purposes" Nothing else is required.
 
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I just got told by my friend today that he said no one under 21 gets a permit, no exceptions. Didn't realize that they would have to pay for the fees. Maybe I could print that out with those parts highlighten and let him know that if I don't my permit, I'm making a case. Can you provide direct links to what you posted, prefferably if it was from the NH.gov website.
 
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Definitely go for it, if he is turning down people under 21 he's absolutely in violation. The permit law has a built in appeal, he has 14 days to deny or issue and if he denies you can get a hearing in no more than 14 days. Won't cost much and you don't have much to lose.
 
Either its legal or isn't.
Well, there's always politeness to consider.

I have family in VT. When I started carrying there, I went to the PD and asked about carry (which I had already researched). The officer I talked to politely said the "no schools or courthouses" rules (he left out "state institutions") and added, "and we'd appreciate if you didn't carry into this station." No "you can't"--just "we'd appreciate."

So I don't carry there (not that I have much cause to go into the PD).

I understand that carrying into a PD is apparently also legal under NH law; and that a rights demonstration is not about politeness. But I'm just wondering, what earlier actions on the part of the Manchester PD were felt to require such an in-your-face response?
 
...such an in-your-face response?
What part was "in-your-face"?
Exercising their right to keep and bear, or filming?
I've never understood why folks go ballistic over someone filming them in the course of their everyday job (unless of course, you're doing something you shouldn't be).

Reminds me of my old troubleshooting days at work-some of my co-workers really hated it when folks were looking over their shoulder. Never bothered me-I often even explained to the operator what I was doing and why.

Mebbe it comes down to a lack of confidence in oneself and/or what they're doing?
 
I just got told by my friend today that he said no one under 21 gets a permit, no exceptions. Didn't realize that they would have to pay for the fees. Maybe I could print that out with those parts highlighten and let him know that if I don't my permit, I'm making a case. Can you provide direct links to what you posted, prefferably if it was from the NH.gov website.

That quoted text of mine is from page 2 of the application, right from the link on the NH.gov website I linked.
 
What part was "in-your-face"?
Exercising their right to keep and bear, or filming?
Could be either, or both.

If the only goal here was exercising rights, how about calling up and saying, "Hi, I'm so-and-so, and I need to visit your station today. I usually carry a firearm openly and legally, and I plan to do that today when I show up. I wasn't sure if you're used to that at the station so I thought I'd call first to avoid any problems." That would be polite--but perhaps politeness is an outdated concept, judging from your question.

If the response he got was: "You try that and we'll shoot you dead, and then arrest you!"--well, now I understand showing up with cameras and the like. If the response was, "Sure, thanks for the call," the why all the hoopla?

What I suspect is there was no call, and this guy showed up hoping to provoke something: maybe for gun rights, maybe for yucks and fame on youtube.

Rights are important, but one isn't required to exercise them without simple consideration for others...even if those others wear blue.
 
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