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This articles makes me want to write this guy a very nasty email, but I can't put my thoughts into words well enough when I'm angry. Feel free to write the newspaper that published this worthless, obviously biased anti.

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?paper=60&cat=127&article=94009

Grab the Derringer, Honey, We’re Taking the Kids to McDonalds
By Nick Penning
February 26, 2008

WHAT FUN, HUH? What could be more "American" than coming home after a long day and deciding to give yourselves a break and the kids a treat? And now the Republican-led House of Delegates in Richmond has made it even more fun, by approving -- in a 62-26 vote -- your right to pack a revolver in your pocket while the kids eat their fries.

What in God’s name is happening to our culture? Or should the question be, what are gun-obsessed politicians doing to our culture?

The bill in question SB 476, had been drafted to prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms into Virginia restaurants. Take a look at how a sensible prohibition against guns in eating establishments, especially those which serve alcohol, was twisted into a permit to carry a gun in such places. This is the wording of the bill, as changed by an amendment added before it passed (the original words are crossed out; the added ones are in italics):

No person shall carry who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club ... which [has] a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption ... may consume an alcoholic beverage while on the premises.

Clever, isn’t it? Just amend a well-intentioned “No person shall carry a concealed handgun” into a bar or restaurant, and bastardize it into its polar opposite by changing the language. It went from “no person ‘shall’ carry” a gun, to “no person ‘who’ carries” a gun; and then adding “may consume an alcoholic beverage” at the end.

From, you can’t carry a "concealed" gun into an eating place; to, sure, you can carry a gun in your pocket; you just can’t drink.

This nefarious victory for the National Rifle Association, which is headquartered just outside Arlington in Fairfax County, came courtesy of Emmett W. Hanger, Jr., a Republican senator from Mount Solon, in the Shenandoah Valley southwest of Harrisonburg.

According to press reports, Governor Kaine feels he has to "review the details of the bill" before deciding whether to sign or veto it.

Based on this bill’s provisions, apparently it’s already Ok for you to carry your handgun and holster outside your jacket wherever you go in the Commonwealth. The cause célèbre of gunsters now is hiding them, when you’re in public.

Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

For most of us, this kind of lawmaking is under our radar. Bills fly through our Assembly and, were it not for the press, we’d rarely hear about any of them. Most of the time an entity with the strength of the NRA operates with the wind at its back, sailing its packages of public poison into laws, despite the good efforts of our local Arlington delegates and senators.

Until now things seemed to be changing, in our Virginia and in the nation. We evicted a Republican racist from one of our seats in the U.S. Senate, installing Jim Webb.

Virginia appeared to be joining the nation in ending the politics of violence and hate. Instead, the Assembly snapped a bit of hope from our lives and gave-in to the purveyors of handguns, the only purpose of which is to kill human beings. While rifles are used for hunting and can’t be concealed, easily purchased handguns fit nicely in any pocket and are used all over this gun-infested land to kill spouses, girlfriends, neighbors, and street crime victims. There’s a reason they’re termed “Saturday Night Specials,” since they can be found at virtually every crime scene in every city and village across the country.

And now Virginia, if the governor should fail to use his veto, could see a metastasizing of gun violence in bars and eateries all over the state, thanks to this insane legislation.

"Sure, you can hide your gun under your shirt or in your bag; but we made certain everything will be safe in the restaurants," say those who voted for SB 476, ‘because you can’t drink while you’re packing a gun.’

So, when you’re arrested for killing someone in a late night shootout, heaven help you if you took a drink, because that’s illegal.

To keep this crazy idea out of our statutes, you might consider dropping Governor Kaine a note -- at www.governor.virginia.gov or by mail to Office of the Governor, 1111 East Broad Street, Richmond 23219; or Phone: (804) 786-2211, or Fax: (804) 371-6351 -- and asking him not to sign SB 476.

Maybe you and I can help this national change process by stopping the NRA here; by showing we reject the insanity of all guns, all the time; because they can only lead to more dead bodies too much of the time.

And, by the way, my column on uranium may have indicated I favor unchecked use of coal as our main energy source. I do not. For us to take advantage of our 200+ years’ supply of coal, we must first find a way to make its gaseous products clean and non-polluting.
 
Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

That's the money graf, right there. I actually said "wow" when I read it. So much of what the gun controllers believe is encompassed in those two sentences. 33 words of obdurate foolishness.
 
This is a predicament I come across often. We so vehemently defend the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, because it safeguards all the others, specifically in this case, the First. These idiots use that right to essentially undermine the other right which protects them. Same goes for my job. People trash talk the military, burn the flag, and try to undermine the Constitution. I find it interesting that I swore to protect their rights to undermine their rights...

This guy, and all like him, make my head hurt.
 
Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

You're correct, Mr. Pennington. We have learned nothing about this insanity. That man who murdered thirty people less than a year ago violated the law and should be punished. We need stronger laws against murdering people and we need to extend those laws throughout this country so that everyone is aware that it is a violation of the law to murder people.

You and your newspaper can help by publishing a large notice on the front page of every edition, in the biggest possible type, informing everyone that it is against the law to murder people.

The Governor of Virginia can help too by standing against murdering people and telling everyone that it's wrong to do so.

Help start a campaign in Virginia to inform everyone that it's against the law to murder people. We must stamp out the ignorance that obviously has some people thinking it's okay to murder people. Use your enormous intellect for good. Let our people know.
 
Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

AND it was 32! I mean, come on! Don't do research before you do your article, we can tell, but how do you get THAT wrong too?!?
 
Article said:
What could be more "American" than coming home after a long day and deciding to give yourselves a break and the kids a treat?

Nothing. Which is why we should all go to the range with the family more often to put some rounds downrange. While honing our other skills, of course. ;)
 
Until now things seemed to be changing, in our Virginia and in the nation. We evicted a Republican racist from one of our seats in the U.S. Senate, installing Jim Webb.

Things are sure changing, alright--you elected a Democrat who campaigned at gun shows and whose aid got busted carrying his Glock in a duffel bag. Hooray! :p

Penning is a schmuck.
 
WHAT FUN, HUH? What could be more "American" than coming home after a long day and deciding to give yourselves a break and the kids a treat? And now the Republican-led House of Delegates in Richmond has made it even more fun, by approving -- in a 62-26 vote -- your right to pack a revolver in your pocket while the kids eat their fries.
LOL, maybe someone should tell him that people can already carry in restaurants carry, just not concealed? He also seems a bit confused about the roots of gun control.
 
Grab the Derringer, Honey, We’re Taking the Kids to McDonalds

Column: Grab the Derringer, Honey, We’re Taking the Kids to McDonalds

Column: Grab the Derringer, Honey, We’re Taking the Kids to McDonalds
By Nick Penning
February 26, 2008

Nick Penning
Nick Penning (www.penningthoughts.com) is an Arlington freelance writer. His column, Penning Thoughts, appears in alternating editions of The Arlington Connection.

WHAT FUN, HUH? What could be more "American" than coming home after a long day and deciding to give yourselves a break and the kids a treat? And now the Republican-led House of Delegates in Richmond has made it even more fun, by approving -- in a 62-26 vote -- your right to pack a revolver in your pocket while the kids eat their fries.

What in God’s name is happening to our culture? Or should the question be, what are gun-obsessed politicians doing to our culture?

The bill in question SB 476, had been drafted to prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms into Virginia restaurants. Take a look at how a sensible prohibition against guns in eating establishments, especially those which serve alcohol, was twisted into a permit to carry a gun in such places. This is the wording of the bill, as changed by an amendment added before it passed (the original words are crossed out; the added ones are in italics):

No person shall carry who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club ... which [has] a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption ... may consume an alcoholic beverage while on the premises.

Clever, isn’t it? Just amend a well-intentioned “No person shall carry a concealed handgun” into a bar or restaurant, and bastardize it into its polar opposite by changing the language. It went from “no person ‘shall’ carry” a gun, to “no person ‘who’ carries” a gun; and then adding “may consume an alcoholic beverage” at the end.

From, you can’t carry a "concealed" gun into an eating place; to, sure, you can carry a gun in your pocket; you just can’t drink.

This nefarious victory for the National Rifle Association, which is headquartered just outside Arlington in Fairfax County, came courtesy of Emmett W. Hanger, Jr., a Republican senator from Mount Solon, in the Shenandoah Valley southwest of Harrisonburg.

According to press reports, Governor Kaine feels he has to "review the details of the bill" before deciding whether to sign or veto it.

Based on this bill’s provisions, apparently it’s already Ok for you to carry your handgun and holster outside your jacket wherever you go in the Commonwealth. The cause célèbre of gunsters now is hiding them, when you’re in public.

Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

For most of us, this kind of lawmaking is under our radar. Bills fly through our Assembly and, were it not for the press, we’d rarely hear about any of them. Most of the time an entity with the strength of the NRA operates with the wind at its back, sailing its packages of public poison into laws, despite the good efforts of our local Arlington delegates and senators.

Until now things seemed to be changing, in our Virginia and in the nation. We evicted a Republican racist from one of our seats in the U.S. Senate, installing Jim Webb.

Virginia appeared to be joining the nation in ending the politics of violence and hate. Instead, the Assembly snapped a bit of hope from our lives and gave-in to the purveyors of handguns, the only purpose of which is to kill human beings. While rifles are used for hunting and can’t be concealed, easily purchased handguns fit nicely in any pocket and are used all over this gun-infested land to kill spouses, girlfriends, neighbors, and street crime victims. There’s a reason they’re termed “Saturday Night Specials,” since they can be found at virtually every crime scene in every city and village across the country.

And now Virginia, if the governor should fail to use his veto, could see a metastasizing of gun violence in bars and eateries all over the state, thanks to this insane legislation.

"Sure, you can hide your gun under your shirt or in your bag; but we made certain everything will be safe in the restaurants," say those who voted for SB 476, ‘because you can’t drink while you’re packing a gun.’

So, when you’re arrested for killing someone in a late night shootout, heaven help you if you took a drink, because that’s illegal.

To keep this crazy idea out of our statutes, you might consider dropping Governor Kaine a note -- at www.governor.virginia.gov or by mail to Office of the Governor, 1111 East Broad Street, Richmond 23219; or Phone: (804) 786-2211, or Fax: (804) 371-6351 -- and asking him not to sign SB 476.

Maybe you and I can help this national change process by stopping the NRA here; by showing we reject the insanity of all guns, all the time; because they can only lead to more dead bodies too much of the time.

All I have to say on this is... We've already been carrying (open and concealed) in Virginia for quite some time now. So where are the bodies Nick? :neener:

Also, since he seems to like pointing at Republicans, it might be a shocker for him to realize that the bill also passed Virginia's Democratic controlled Senate by a 24 to 14 vote. (not that he cares about such inconvenient facts).
 
He came close when he read and wrote about this bill, but I wonder if he would really burst a vein in his head if he knew that people have always been able to concealed carry in McDonald's? Heh.

-Sans Authoritas
 
Fascinating in many ways:

Until now things seemed to be changing, in our Virginia and in the nation. We evicted a Republican racist from one of our seats in the U.S. Senate, installing Jim Webb.

I am pretty sure Webb has a carry permit.

"Sure, you can hide your gun under your shirt or in your bag; but we made certain everything will be safe in the restaurants," say those who voted for SB 476, ‘because you can’t drink while you’re packing a gun.’

So, when you’re arrested for killing someone in a late night shootout, heaven help you if you took a drink, because that’s illegal.

He is absolutely correct. They need to drop the drinking prohibition. It makes no sense.

Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no[t allowing] possession of handguns in our state and country?

There fixed it for him.
 
Aw, and the sheep bahhhs in panic. Hey, Marv, do we have a pacifier?... We ran out? Okay, thanks, Marv.

Good grief. So much for recognizing the fact that truly bad people will carry no matter what the laws say.
 
Huzzah!

One of the maddening things about antis is that they only half pay attention to the world around them. He seems to think that Virginians carrying guns to McDonald's will be something new and knows absolutely nothing about the inane requirement that Virginians have to take off their jackets in restaurants that serve alcohol.

Even more maddening, this provincial rube seems to think that people in no other states carry in restaurants, bars and drink while carrying. Tonight, in Indiana, people will carry guns into restaurants, bistros, sushi joints, cafes, taverns, bars, the Navy Club, the Elks and the Knights of Columbus. Hoosiers will have dinner and have a brew while carrying guns and . . . nothing will happen.

BTW, what's his fixation on pistols in pockets? Nick, we do not carry guns in our pockets as it is less than optimal for deployment. We carry guns on our belts in holsters.
 
Based on this bill’s provisions, apparently it’s already Ok for you to carry your handgun and holster outside your jacket wherever you go in the Commonwealth. The cause célèbre of gunsters now is hiding them, when you’re in public.

This is a good point also. I mean I am happy either way but why are we so concerned with hiding guns these days? I say open carry eveywhere and let this issue die.

Also I looked up Gunster Yoakley and they seem more concerned with planned development than gun rights. Maybe he knows something we don't.
 
Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

This needs fixing!

Thirty disarmed and penned sheep were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread limits on possession of handguns in our state and country?

There we go!
 
Anti-freedom columnist wrote:
So, when you’re arrested for killing someone in a late night shootout, heaven help you if you took a drink, because that’s illegal.

My parody: "So, when you're lying in a pool of blood because some unjust aggressor just fired a 9mm slug into your liver while you curled up in the fetal position, bleating and unarmed, take comfort: it was illegal for the guy to carry that 9mm concealed."

-Sans Authoritas
 
Bones, I agree. While I'm definitely an advocate of always having enough firearm, I try to stay away from "those" McDonalds. I'm sure we each know the location of one of "those" McDonalds.

-Sans Authoritas
 
The NRA

The anti crowd always paints the NRA as the Big Bad Lobbyist or PAC. This when it's not made up ofd any big money interest but is a a grass roots organization made up of common citizens. Every thing a a lobbying group or PAC is supposed to be and most aren't.
 
Thirty people were meticulously slaughtered by Virginia handguns at Virginia Tech less than a year ago. Have we learned nothing about the insanity of widespread, no limits possession of handguns in our state and country?

This sentence contradicts itself . There WAS a limit to possession where this happened .It was a "gun free zone" .

I think this "gentleman " may want to worry more about all the people that drive to these establishments that serve alcohol .

Highway death statistics show 17,448 fatalities in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes in 2001
I know not all those deaths were from bar related drinking , but exactly how many "shootouts" have there by legally carrying bar patrons?

Whatever . Just another person with an irrational unfounded fear. Luckily I have a strong stomach and was able to keep my breakfast down while reading this drivel .
 
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