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"Ninja" Glock reload? How is this possible?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by gunnutery, Nov 17, 2009.

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  1. gunnutery

    gunnutery Member

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    I saw this video posted on the firearmblog.com today.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7stLQvsDX8

    How is this done? I obviously had to try it with my Glock 22 (unloaded of course) and to no surprise it didn't work. It looks like he's using a long slide Glock. Is it possible that the little extra weight of the slide helps this reload, or has he modified the recoil spring? Wouldn't the added force of the rounds in the magazine only hinder the slide from being moved in this way?

    I'm only curious and don't plan on employing this technique (even if I got it to work). Any thoughts?
     
  2. Justin

    Justin Moderator Emeritus

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    That video's been making the rounds. Suffice it to say, lots of practice and a decent helping of fast-twitch muscle.

    As I understand it, that particular competitor is also a martial arts enthusiast as well as an IPSC shooter.
     
  3. Vikingsoftpaw

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    I think he racked the slide by catching it on his shirt. Obviously not using factory springs.
     
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    Justin Moderator Emeritus

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    Unlikely.

    Also, there is a long discussion thread about that video over at the Brian Enos forums.
     
  5. General Geoff

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    This guy deserves the title of Grammaton Cleric for that. :D
     
  6. scythefwd

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    Vikingsoftpaw - It can be done, but it ain't easy. I can get a bout 1/2 inch movement on my 9mm, with the hammer already back. I would love to meet him and have him do it with hammer down on mine, it's got a heavy hammer :). I just need to work on getting it stopped better.

    What is the factory spring on a glock?
     
  7. badbadtz560

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    does it have anything to do w/ the strap across his shoulder?

    edit* wait nevermind.. that's just a wrinkle lol
     
  8. Zach S

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    Since seeing that video I have tried and failed many times...
     
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    We watched the same movie :D
     
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    Every time I see people do this I am amazed.

    The closest I can get is with my 92FS so long as the hammer is back I can get the slide to move a little, no where close to being able to chamber a round however.
     
  12. 9mmepiphany

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    i understand the physics of it, but i don't have my 9mm Glock to try it with...lent it to the BIL

    the hard part is stopping it without "give"...so that the slide continues rearward while you drive the frame back forward. i'll have to discuss it with my Tai Chi instructor...it looks a lot like the reverse technique of Bruce Lee's famous 1" punch
     
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    Lmao...I caught myself shaking the hell out of my 1911 for like 5 minutes after watching this.
     
  14. Walkalong

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    A way above average helping. I bet I could have done that in my youth, but I have slowed down considerably. It would still be fun to try.
     
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    Arrrrgh...time to work out and start taking nutritional supplements. :)
     
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    I thought someone earlier was claiming the pistol was using factory springs that were very worn. That on top of practice and proper "form" make this not quite impossible though still very rare. I thought in one of the earlier threads on this video it was stated that the spring shot count made a huge difference (something along the 50,000 shot line IIRC). Impressive none the less.
     
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    ...

    Well, he certainly has the one-hand-only method down..

    Kudos,


    Ls
     
  18. jr_roosa

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    I SEE HOW HE DID IT!

    It's not the push forward that does it. He pulls back quickly and then his hand stops with the elbow fully flexed and the slide continues backwards. He's basically slamming his wrist against his bicep with enough force that the slide cycles.

    Ouch.

    -J.
     
  19. Isher

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    Despite the smithing and technique that made this possible,

    The most telling moment for me

    Was the combination of the the two magic advertising power words

    Ninja and Glock.

    Get out the 'plates and the duct tape............

    And for this exercise, you don't even need the word "Mall."

    isher
     
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    ^ when I first saw the title of this thread, my first thought was this subforum must be a mall ninja hangout. :D

    I lack the "twitch" to even try this. I'm just glad I live in the era of the peacemaker, and I don't have to rely on mauy kung karate thai for defense. :)
     
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    LMAO! not much secret ninja stuff to it! hes using a race gun. they have ultra light springs in them. one of the officers here shoots one at competitions. he also uses it in womens handgun courses to show limpwristing. he often shoots it upside down and limp to show how people make standard weapons jam.
     
  22. Skillet

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    how?
    how did they...?
    hmmm...
    you could most definately NOT do that with my CZ 75B.
    or any 1911.
    and you would have to have great aim to get that mag in the mag well.
    i can't see much video trickery if any at all, and I am experienced in that field.
    What did they use for the spring? a slinky?

    the guys on that other site said that it is a stock spring and the backing of the slide is caused by the inertia of the movement "he pulls the gun back into him stopping it dead solid and initiating a slight jolt forward to rack the slide."-from the guy on the other site.
    also, "Stopping the gun dead solid after the rearward movement is key. Its a huge timing thing."
    looks like it's one of those quick movements that requires alot of timed muscle coordination and muscle memory. kinda like those funky frisbee throws that you see those college guys do.
     
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    That's basically my set up...

    I didn't even attempt the Witness (CZ clone). The 1911 slide moved just a little bit, not enough to chamber a round though.
     
  24. PO2Hammer

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    I think both. You can get a Glock to function with a recoil spring as low as 10 or 11 pounds. The striker spring has to be reduced too, so the trigger doesn't pull the slide out of battery.
    The guy is good any way you slice it.
     
  25. General Geoff

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    According to the linked thread, the guy in the video can do it with any pistol you hand him, including a 1911 with the hammer down.
     
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