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I figured this was the best place to ask this one.

Over the last couple years, I have had a number of rounds that failed to fire. Mostly 22lr but a couple 9mm and a few more 45ACP. I keep tossing them in a bag planning to dispose of them somehow eventually.
What is the best way to make them safe without putting my fingers at risk?
I always try a couple times to refire them in the gun before bagging them.
I don't have any reloading tools to disassemble them. Pliers and such is all I have in that regard.

Thanks, Matt
 
I'd guess you could just use those pliers to pull the bullets out, dump the primer (and case, if need be) and powder into water, then toss/recycle. We have a dud box at our range, which is nice. Otherwise, hopefully someone else has better advice for us.
 
This is another one of the bennefits of reloading. I've not experienced one single mis-fire in over 30 years of reloading. however, prior to relaoding factory mis-fired numerous times.

Dosposal without a safe means of pulling the bullet is a risky bisuness in my opinion, especially with rim fire cartridges. I know it isn't the best way to protect someone from possible injury, but if you find a remote place where you can dig a 12" or deeper hole and bury them, they'll at least be fairly safe from accidental discharge through inadvertant circumstances.
 
Yeah, bury them is good. They'll eventually corrode and water will get in and destroy the explosive qualities rendering them safe. You can pull the bullets and reuse the brass if you load, and my range takes duds presumably for that reason.
 
No need to go to all that. Here some options:Send them to me & I'll warry about them, just throw them in the trash, or you can pull down 22LR with your hands but you will ether have to buy a bullet puller or tape it to the side of a hamer for the center fire. I guess you could throw them in the river also. I suggest sending them to me to be the safest bet.
 
For centerfire, get a kinetic bullet puller. They are $15 to $20 or so. The powder can be sprinkled on the yard. Toss the cases or give them to a friend that reloads.

Do not use the kinetic puller for rimfire. The bullets can be easily pulled with a couple of pliers. Wear safety glasses or shield.
 
If I'm at the range they have a bucket for misfired live .22 rounds. Center fire I'll pull and reuse the components.

22's get tossed in the trash if at home.
 
I assume you're not a reloader, or I'd tell you that after accumulating a bag full of dud rounds it's time to invest $20.00 in a kenetic bullet puller.


You could give them to a reloader who owns one that might like the brass, but one's and two's just aren't worth much.


You can toss them in a bucket filled with some sort of petroleum-based oil. After several weeks the oil will seep into the case and neutralize the primer compound and powder, making them inert. Then toss them into the garbage.
 
EPA (and potentially your local city waste management) will have a problem with some of the described solutions. Give them to a person that reloads ammo or leave them in the dud container at a commercial range. Otherwise, you will be liable for any damage.
 
I have flushed powder a few times after containation. Not sure if this is an EPA issue, but I think throwing them in the trash is a hazard with the compactors and other disposal machines in used. I also use WD 40 to disarm primers. I would recomend this even with a dud, as you neven know why it failed as it could be a broken anvil not bad chemical in the primer.
 
Here in south Louisiana, most state police depts. and fire depts. will accept them and dispose of them safely. At least they claim to, not sure what they actually do with what they collect.

I have personally disposed of live rounds by shoving a broom handle into the ground (10-15 inches deep or so), filling the hole with hot coals about half way, and dropping the rounds in. They go off after a few minutes, with no shrapnel to speak of above ground level.
 
Again, a shooter purchased a new rifle, he also purchased new ammo, the rifle was 30/06, 5 of 20 rounds of the new Remington ammo did not fire, the shooter with the new rifle made two attempts at firing the 5, nothing, with no shortage of 30/06 chambers at the range two more rifles were used in an attempt firing the unfired 'duds’?.

Another shooter/reloader called me from the range and ask about Remington ammo, I suggested he/they call Remington and the manufacturer of the rifle, that did not happen, seems most get more mileage out of a topic by complaining, after it was said and done he shows up with 20 rounds, 15 fired and 5 with primer strikes, he did not bring the box, he did not have the phone number of the shooter with the new rifle, so much for contacting Remington. I dug out ‘MY’ chamber gages, L.E. Wilson case gage, and my home made comparator system, then my RCBS 30 cal bullet puller and at the insistence of the shooter/reloader I used the 10-10 RCBS scale.

The fired cases with a slight thumb pressure seated into my chamber gage, with a straight edge and feeler gage I measured the length of the cases from the head of the case to the shoulder of the case then confirmed the measurement with my home made comparator, conclusion? the chamber was not long enough to allow the case/powder/bullet and primer to out run the primer strike, when weighing the remains of the 5 unfired cases after pulling them down, I was impressed, there was not 1/2 grain difference between bullets, powder or case weight, THEN, I installed the 5 dented primers back into the proper case, then chambered each one at a time in one of my M1917s, I pulled the trigger and each primer fired, after having been hit as many as 6 times in three different rifles, the M1917 firing pin fall is ‘CLICK’!!!!, nothing bashful about the M1917 firing pin hitting the primer, I was not at the range, I do believe the M1917 would have fired all 5 rounds at the range after 6 attempts had been made.

And? still, with no way to contact the man with the new rifle there is someone out there that is giving Remington a bad reputation. I do have a Remington M1917 that does not strike the primer with authority, it has been declared the ugliest rifle ever built and described as “What was he thinking” when he built it. Anyhow, I can not improve on the accuracy, $120.00, I have more money in the mounts, scope base and scope, and it shoots everything, no matter the case, time fired, bullet, seated out, seated back, groups move but never scatter, ugly and accurate? I will settle for that.

F. Guffey
 
As to soaking in a number of fluids, could be a waste of time, a reloader should know if his ammo is sealed (primer/bullet-neck), if the neck and primer pocket is sealed ammo can be soaked for years, nothing. The question then should be asked, “How do I know if my ammo is sealed around the primer and bullet” by design both the primer and bullet seal when loading, but, there is a chance a few fail to seal due to crimping, and again the question should be asked “How do I, a reloader, determine if my reloaded ammo is sealed”

Ammo that is poorly can render a rifle scrap, or simply go click when the firing pin falls, and that is not all.

F. Guffey
 
A quiet burial in the yard or just careful use of pliers to pull the bullets. the powder can serve as fertilizer in the yard.

IMHO for added safety do not grab the .22 rimfire by the rim. For the centerfires it does not matter.
 
If you tear the rounds down, put the powder in your wifes flower bed, or in the grass. It makes great fertilizer due to all the nitrates, and breaks down quickly.
 
I will second or third the thought to find a reloader or range to take the duds. Most reloaders will welcome components. Even the .22 lead bullets can be melted down and reused, the brass can be sold as scrap, and the propellant is fertilizer. THERE all duds are safely taken care of this way, just requires some effort on the part of a shooter to be responsible.:cool:
 
Give them to a person that reloads ammo or leave them in the dud container at a commercial range.
Best advice in this thread.

Some of the other suggestions are "entertaining", although not socially responsible.

I have personally disposed of live rounds by shoving a broom handle into the ground (10-15 inches deep or so), filling the hole with hot coals about half way, and dropping the rounds in. They go off after a few minutes, with no shrapnel to speak of above ground level.
If I wanted to put a hole 10-15 inches into the ground (depending on the time of year) I'd need either an 8 pound sledge or several pounds of dynamite. :)
A broom handle would (with considerable effort) go about 1/2"...during the wet season.
 
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