No more gun shows for me

I have experience going to shows in Florida (recently) and in the Northeast. The Florida shows are not inspiring at all. The shows in the Northeast were amazing. The best show outside of the Springfield Mass show was at the Empire State Plaza in Albany, NY. Its commie central but they let the big show happen anyway. The variety and depth of that show was incredible. You could find practically anything you needed or wanted. It was multi level with several hundred tables. It has amazing historical relics and pieces of local history. Its the best show I ever went too. Not sure they even run it now. Other shows that were great were the Rutland Vt show and the Concord NH show. Again much variety and history. I have lost interest in shows down here in the south. I may stumble on other shows when I travel. I bet the shows out west are also good, have to see.
 
I would be happy to pay $20 apiece to attend one of the old-style Gun Shows. Y'know, lots of tables/vendors with mostly generally-well-priced used firearms, reloading supplies and accessories ... and some lightweight food service on-site (w/ tables & chairs).

I used to really enjoy slowly making a circuit of the entire room(s), keeping brief notes in pocket notebook and then taking a break to get a hotdog & coke and sit down to sort thru what I had seen.

S'been a long time since I found one of those 'round here.

My last Gun Show was at a relatively-small venue called Hugo's a few miles SE of Opal, VA (were Clark Bros is located) about 20 years ago.

I realized as I walked out that gun shows had changed too much for me to ever again attend. Too few well-priced, interesting firearms from which to choose (especially milsurps) and far too much non-firearms-related CRAP.

Lots of NIB, over-priced, contemporary firearms, mostly handguns ... but that seemed to better fit the changing mix of attendees. More city folks & fewer pickup trucks. ;)
 
Maybe we should expand our horizons. There are events, that, while not strictly "gun shows," are still of interest to gun people. An example would be the North-South Skirmish Association's spring and fall Nationals. This is the place to find Civil War-era guns, both originals and reproductions. In fact, any historical reenactment will have a "sutlers' row" where interesting guns and accessories can be found. Over the years, I was able to get numerous machine gun mounts, parts, and accessories at the Military Vehicle Preservation Association's annual conventions.

At all these alternative venues, you have the advantage of "arbitrage" -- the prices at these markets tend to be lower, for the same items, than at regular gun shows.
 
My last Gun Show was at a relatively-small venue called Hugo's a few miles SE of Opal, VA (were Clark Bros is located) about 20 years ago.
Ah yes, I remember that well. Hugo's skating rink (where the gun shows were held) has now become an evangelical church.

The Nation's Gun Show at Chantilly, Virginia, has sucked all the oxygen out of the smaller shows in the area.
 
Was that at the Convention Center, or the Sports Arena? Those venues were interesting, and they seemed to attract some interesting vendors. Kind of a unique crowd of gawkers at both Allen and Frisco shows, too.

If not quite as odd as the one Premier puts on in NRH at the NyTex hockey rink. For my 2¢, the mix of folk at the FW show is still the most interesting (and Premier more so than Lone Star). Although the crowd mix at the old Dallas Arms shows at Market Hall was pretty unique (and a good excuse to go to Sonny Bryan's for BBQ).
Convention Center. I live just east of there
 
We seem to do a gun show thread every couple of months or so, and invariably, most people chime in to disparage the shows they claim to have attended, or simply to note that they haven't been to a show in years because they're not any good anymore...

I pay an annual fee to the WAC and get free admission to each show, can carry (unloaded) inside and bring firearms in (non-members do not have these privileges) Some of the shows are better than others; typically, if there hasn't been a show for two or three months (or longer, during the "pandemic") there are more vendors and attendance is much higher.

The thing that's killing our shows up here are all the new laws (there's now a requirement to take a safety class simply to buy any firearm), especially the background check requirement and now the mandatory waiting period. No more private sales. Oh, and no sales of centerfire semi-automatic rifles, period. No magazines with over ten round capacity for any firearm.

Still, even $20 -- to me, anyway -- is not too much to pay for maybe a half-day's entertainment, walking around, talking to like-minded, patriotic people, hearing stories, fondling the latest and greatest new firearm, and occasionally finding the exact gun you've been seeking, even if it's not the best deal in the world. I can still get decent prices on bulk ammo - pay cash, carry out, no paper trail, which is always good.

Me, I always stop on the way and have a huge breakfast, that way I don't have to pay for the over-priced, mediocre food.

Yes, the old days of getting excited about hitting up the gun show because you could usually score a smokin' deal on something you wanted are probably gone, never to return, given the current political climate and increasingly restrictive laws (in most states). I'm not saying everyone should lower their expectations for gun shows, but maybe revise them a bit and look at the shows as social and networking opportunities with our community with the occasional chance to check out an actual firearm in person, rather than online.

Some of us will miss the gun shows when they're gone. It's a part of Americana that future generations will never know, and to me, gun shows have always represented freedom and liberty, with the opportunity to show support for the RKBA -- in person -- and where else do you get that opportunity? Down at your LGS with Bob, his crony Dave and the two customers who come in to do some quick tire-kicking? At Cabela's, where you have to take a number and stand three deep at the counter while everyone is engrossed in their smartphone's screen and not talking to anyone else?
 
I've probably shared this story here before but a couple years ago I went to a gun show and was browsing the isles. When and old timer at VFW table more or less grabbed my attention and asked if I wanted to buy a $5 raffle ticket for a Rock Island GI 45. He was a chatty fellow and we thanked each other for our service. I told him that I didn't want a raffle ticket but here's a $10 donation.

I'm cynical, most of these gun raffles are rigged. The winner has already been picked. I'd rather just donate a few bucks.

I've bought maybe 2 guns at gun shows in the past 20+ years. I do look for accessories, holsters, and gun parts. The last Tulsa gun show I went to had a fellow selling leather cartridge belts (Cowboy Action) and holsters at a fair price. I like being able to try a cartridge belt on in person and bought one. I carried it with me as I walked through the rest of the show or until my feet gave out. I must've had 6 people ask me where I bought that cartridge belt.

5 to 10 years ago, there was seller at the Tulsa Show that had 8 tables full of cowboy holsters and cartridge belts. You had a choice of black or tan. All mass produced (possibly out of Mexico) but relatively inexpensive. I bought my 1st belt & holster rig from them. I should've bought more holsters and both colors.

If you've never been, you should attend a Tulsa Gun Show. 11 acres indoors (heated and cooled) with 4,200 tables.
 
Old Dog
Do you ever go to the Falcon gun shows up north here?
The Granite Falls show is this weekend.
I take my grandson to most of them. We will be heading there in a few minutes.
I will be picking up some 32long and 32 H&R magnum brass from one of the vendors there.
I generally buy something at every show to help out some one to cover their table cost.
I like the private tables, I got some good buys over the years.

The next one will be February 3rd & 4th at the Stanwood fair grounds.
And the following weekend it will be up in Mt Vernon at the hotel right across the street from Harbor Freight.
If you want to go to one of these shows let me know and we can meet up.
I have the list of all of the Facon show.
 
Old Dog
Do you ever go to the Falcon gun shows up north here?
The Granite Falls show is this weekend.
Hi, Pat, I haven't been up that way for quite a while! Would be a nice change from the South Sound WAC shows. I'll try and get over there for a February show, check it out, catch up with you!
 
Sounds good, I spent $100 there today on a few items. Picked up three 50 round boxes of 22 long today for $5 a box.
And a pound of Accurate #5.
If you come up for one of the shows we can stop out for breakfast.
 
After decades of attending gun shows several times a year I maxed out and stopped going after 2008 or thereabouts. Late last year I accompanied my daughter and SIL to my first one in 15 years. Hated the atmosphere, the new entrance fee and the choices. Now for sure I won't ever attend another one.
 
drobs: Yes -- Tulsa's Wannemacher !
We drove there in 2017, and next day my wife dropped me at the show. Went back for a second patrol on Sunday, again slowly walking past all tables with rifles (seldom stopping allows this).
Never saw the specific type🇨🇿 (Czech VZ-58) which would have been cool to handle a first time, and probably buy (therefore i had to use Gunbroker…). Bought nothing except burger and Mountain Dew for caffeine.😵‍💫

Would return for the Tulsa gun spectacle, but need to take two road trips to see family (parents) who might not be around more than a couple more years. And a different trip to a friend.
 
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Shows in our area are by far the best place to source reloading powder. Cheaper than online and no hazmat fee. Prior to the pandemic you could source just about any powder, but since then varieties have been somewhat limited. It’s getting better though.
 
I just back from a local gun show. I have been member of the Maumee Valley Gun Collectors Association since the mid 1960s. Annual dues just went from $25 to $30 dollars this year. There are 5 shows a year less than 2 miles from here at the local fairgrounds. Not a bad deal.

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I went to a gun show yesterday with one of my friends. Entry was only $10 and we had a great time looking at different guns for about an hour and half. After that, we went up and down the remaining aisles at warp speed. Mostly it was a good way to spend half with a friend that has the same interests as I do. I didn't leave with anything, but there were four used Smith and Wesson revolvers that were in excellent condition and offered at a good price if I was so inclined.
 
Still going to shows within decent driving distance, around here cost is usually $5 or $6 buck with free parking. I don't buy much anymore prices at the show are usually ridiculously high, and I don't need or want much. In the last couple of years, I switch up and started getting tables and selling at two shows a year. Time to start thinning the collection.
I have noticed that there are not as many sellers or buyer as there was pre-covid. It's still fun to chat it up with the vendors that I know and hang with like-minded people.
 
If one were financially almost broke, one might sacrifice a six-pack of beer when gun show prices increase.

And then it's easier to bend over for something which has fallen to the floor (less belly fat). Win - win.
 
My wife and I went to the gun show yesterday. 8 dollars a person to get in. Cost me $1400 to leave. $800 for the 80 series Colt. Plus 600 for a Springfield Hellcat pro new in the box.
 

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If they are local I attend.

This last year i got my ffl and attempted to sell at gunshows as well as my shop.

I never made a sale at the shows and frankly that killed my enthusiasm.

I offered custom built single action revolver, vintage American military surplus, and run-of-the-mill the mill 200-800 dollar pistols and revolvers.

The world is not what it was when I was 18 fourteen years ago and actively buying guns and shooting all the competition matches I could afford to drive to. 400 dollar a week groceries, outlandish interest rates, 4 dollar+ a gallon gas has all taken a toll on luxury spending.

I shut my business down and am in the process of surrounding my ffl.

Gun shows and many more gun shops will succumb to the same fate in the days to come.

Please enjoy what you can while there is time.
 
Going to gun shows with friends (or your spouse) is fine if you have no intention of buying, and are just there for the entertainment, and to pass the time.

I've found that if you plan to do some serious buying / selling, it's best to go alone. The last thing you need is cross talk when you are doing a negotiation. Your partner thinks that he / she is being "helpful," but they're not.
 
Every year I see couples at the big box stores right before deer season and the husband explains to the wife why he needs a certain item for hunting.
If I ever needed anything for hunting I allotted for it and bought it well before I needed to use it.
The same with my reloading habit, if will be needing something I set money aside and buy it. I never have to explain anything to the other half.
Same when she goes out and but stuff, you want it go buy it. Just make sure you pay your bills first.
 
Going to gun shows with friends (or your spouse) is fine if you have no intention of buying, and are just there for the entertainment, and to pass the time.
Wife and I did that yesterday. $20 and we were out of there in less than 30 minutes. Which is typical for us. I have not bought anything gun related at a gun show in years. Wife occasionally will buy some of the trinket stuff for the grandkids, etc. I'm usually looking for something fairly specific, which I almost never find. And if I do, it's over-priced and over-used.
 
Ya, I'm done with shows as well. The only one i will go to is a big 3 days event just to look around. I havent bought anything from gun shows in more than 15 years when the prices went up beyond online stores and local shops. By the time you pay to drive to the show, pay for parking and the extra high prices, its not worth it. During the pandemic, i went to the 3 day show and a guy walking by me had a wagon full of 556 in ammo boxes. I heard him say he paid more for his ammo that his first car, lol. It was 800 bucks per thousand rounds at the time. One of the reasons i took up reloading. But, saving money reloading is difficult with high prices also.
 
Me neither. Been over a decade since I went to one. That one was in North GA at a little town civic center and it was small and cost about 6 bucks to get into. I used to go to the Ga Nat. fairground gun shows in Perry GA year after year. I quit that long ago. They are garbage. Admission is too expensive and table after table of junk.

I don't need crusty old military fatigues (I have a closet full), I don't need near inedible "jerky", my knife sharpened, or to hear the crackle of a stun gun the entire time I walk around the show. No thank you. Also no blowguns, "tactical" gear, chinesium knives or other various assorted knock off junk.

Years back there were tables of affordable milsurps, reloading gear, tables of Contender stuff, militaria (collectible) etc. Those days are long gone. Now gun shows are just expensive flea markets.
 
The Miami fairgrounds show has been written off my list of shows. Between entrance fees, paid parking, tolls, gas and stinky atendees, I'm gone :)
 
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